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OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY
TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
NOYB wrote: NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the industrial age that correlates with warming trends? |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the industrial age that correlates with warming trends? I dunno. I'd have to interview the scientist who first measured the CO2 levels in the air 65,000 years ago. |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the industrial age that correlates with warming trends? I dunno. I'd have to interview the scientist who first measured the CO2 levels in the air 65,000 years ago. Damn, you ARE dumb, aren't you??? : Ancient bubbles show greenhouse gases at high point November 25, 2005 BY LAURAN NEERGAARD Advertisement WASHINGTON -- There is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere today than at any point during the last 650,000 years, says a major study that let scientists peer back in time at greenhouse gases that can help fuel global warming. By analyzing tiny air bubbles preserved in Antarctic ice for millennia, a team of European researchers highlights how people are significantly influencing the buildup of these gases. The remarkable research promises to spur ''dramatically improved understanding'' of climate change, said geosciences specialist Edward Brook of Oregon State University. The study, by the European Project for Ice Coring in Antarctica, is published today in the journal Science. Today, scientists directly measure levels of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases, which accumulate in the atmosphere as a result of fuel-burning and other processes. Those gases help trap solar heat, like the greenhouses for which they are named, resulting in a gradual warming of the planet. Those measurements are disturbing: Levels of carbon dioxide have climbed from 280 parts per million two centuries ago to 380 ppm today. Earth's average temperature, meanwhile, increased about 1 degree Fahrenheit in recent decades, a relatively rapid rise. Many climate specialists warn that continued warming could have dramatic effects, such as rising sea levels and changing rainfall patterns. Skeptics sometimes dismiss the rise in greenhouse gases as part of a naturally fluctuating cycle. The new study provides ever-more definitive evidence countering that view, however. Deep Antarctic ice encases air bubbles formed when snowflakes fell over hundreds of thousands of years. Extracting the air allows a measurement of the atmosphere at past points in time, to determine the naturally fluctuating range. A previous ice-core sample had traced greenhouse gases back about 440,000 years. This new sample, from East Antarctica, goes 210,000 years further back in time. Today's still rising level of carbon dioxide already is 27 percent higher than its peak during all those millennia, said lead researcher Thomas Stocker of the University of Bern, Switzerland. ''We are out of that natural range today,'' he said. Moreover, that rise is occurring at a speed that ''is over a factor of a hundred faster than anything we are seeing in the natural cycles,'' Stocker added. ''It puts the present changes in context.'' AP And: |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
wrote in message oups.com... What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, WASHINGTON -- There is more carbon dioxide in the atmosphere today than at any point during the last 650,000 years Are you talking about the same study? Is it 65,000 or 650,000 years? |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
On 1 Dec 2005 11:45:26 -0800, wrote:
NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the industrial age that correlates with warming trends? I dunno. I'd have to interview the scientist who first measured the CO2 levels in the air 65,000 years ago. Damn, you ARE dumb, aren't you??? : Would you consider someone who said, "NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period" dumb? http://www.noaa.gov/ocean.html -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Self-obsessed Hypocrite] |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
JohnH,
Are you suggesting that NOAA studies something else besides atmospheric conditions. Damn, you learn something new everyday. ; ) I thought NOAA stood for Naturally (we) Only (study) Atmospheric Anomalies. "John H." wrote in message ... On 1 Dec 2005 11:45:26 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the industrial age that correlates with warming trends? I dunno. I'd have to interview the scientist who first measured the CO2 levels in the air 65,000 years ago. Damn, you ARE dumb, aren't you??? : Would you consider someone who said, "NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period" dumb? http://www.noaa.gov/ocean.html -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Self-obsessed Hypocrite] |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
LOL! Again. Stop it.
On Thu, 1 Dec 2005 16:01:19 -0500, "Lord Reginald Smithers" Ask me about my driveway leading up to my manor. wrote: JohnH, Are you suggesting that NOAA studies something else besides atmospheric conditions. Damn, you learn something new everyday. ; ) I thought NOAA stood for Naturally (we) Only (study) Atmospheric Anomalies. "John H." wrote in message .. . On 1 Dec 2005 11:45:26 -0800, wrote: NOYB wrote: wrote in message ups.com... NOYB wrote: NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the industrial age that correlates with warming trends? I dunno. I'd have to interview the scientist who first measured the CO2 levels in the air 65,000 years ago. Damn, you ARE dumb, aren't you??? : Would you consider someone who said, "NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period" dumb? http://www.noaa.gov/ocean.html -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Self-obsessed Hypocrite] -- John H "It's not a *baby* kicking, beautiful bride, it's just a fetus!" [A Self-obsessed Hypocrite] |
OT--Hurricanes not a result of global warming
wrote:
NOYB wrote: NOAA ATTRIBUTES RECENT INCREASE IN HURRICANE ACTIVITY TO NATURALLY OCCURRING MULTI-DECADAL CLIMATE VARIABILITY Nov. 29, 2005 - The nation is now wrapping up the 11th year of a new era of heightened Atlantic hurricane activity. This era has been unfolding in the Atlantic since 1995, and is expected to continue for the next decade or perhaps longer. NOAA attributes this increased activity to natural occurring cycles in tropical climate patterns near the equator. These cycles, called "the tropical multi-decadal signal," typically last several decades (20 to 30 years or even longer). As a result, the North Atlantic experiences alternating decades long (20 to 30 year periods or even longer) of above normal or below normal hurricane seasons. NOAA research shows that the tropical multi-decadal signal is causing the increased Atlantic hurricane activity since 1995, and is not related to greenhouse warming. http://www.magazine.noaa.gov/stories/mag184.htm NOAA studies atmospheric conditions, period. What do you say about the study that shows that for 65,000 years, the co2 levels in the air remained quite stable, then started an upward trend during the industrial age that correlates with warming trends? I saw a study that says we have the highest CO2 levels in 650,000 years. But as for the upward trend during the industrial age correlating with warming trends? Not a scientific conclusion. We don't have any accurate temperature data older than about 130 years. We don't know except in very indirect ways (tree rings come to mind) what the temperatures were 650,000 years ago. So we only have half the graph filled in. We know we have had some very cold spells (the so-called "mini-ice-age" when the Thames froze over and underwear was invented - just watch James Burke) and very warm times when crops grew in Greenland, within historical records. So far, all the data I've seen correlates better with sun-spot cycles than with atmospheric CO2 content but I haven't actually seen the new CO2 ice-core data. Why is it so hard to accept that these hurricanes are part of natural cycle? I realize the people whose grants rely on the study of climate change/global warming were probably ****ing themselves with glee when yet another tropical storm started up over the Atlantic today, but don't you feel just a little better knowing that New Orleans disappearing really isn't your fault or fault of your SUV driving neighbour? |
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