Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and a lot of bandwidth is
wasted.

Time wasted interacting with Mr. Weiser's selfish fantasies would be
better spent on paddling, gear maintenance, trip planning, or, failing
that, cleaning out the kitchen junk drawer.

Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty and only the pig will
enjoy it...

Pete in Atlanta

On Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:18:30 -0700, Scott Weiser
wrote:

A Usenet persona calling itself Oci-One Kanubi wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:
A Usenet persona calling itself Oci-One Kanubi wrote:

Poor baby. Please allow me to be the first to pass you a hankie.

-Richard, His Kanubic Travesty

See, there's that small-minded, petty selfishness I was talking about...


Heh, heh; the technique of the Big Lie: accuse someone else of yer own
sin so that you can pretend to be virtuous.

Pot, kettle, black.


You probably imagine that there are a bunch of new faces in r.b.p that
don't remember all yer years and years of mail-bombing the newsgroup
with detail after excruciating detail about yer own little problem,
though it has never been clear that so much as a single r.b.p reader
has been amongst the kayakers who have so effectively driven you off
yer nut, and though many, if not most, of us were on yer side before
you became so insufferably tiresome (but you probably don't remember
that; ain't selective memory grand?)

Nah. My motive is much simpler. I'm giving due notice in one of the many
forums through which I can reach and notify a segment of the recreational
public, part of whom do, in fact, violate my rights and the law, of a new
threat to THEM. It's just one step in my long-standing policy of defending
my rights. By posting here, and by vigorously defending my rights, I help to
prevent any argument that I have not actively opposed attempts to seize my
property through prescriptive easement.

If you weren't such a myopic hate-monger, you would realize that by
notifying boaters of the nest I'm actually doing them a favor. I could have
just kept quiet about it and then hammered every boater who unwittingly
violated the federal law by disturbing the eagles. I decided that it only
fair to let people know that they are chancing federal prosecution by
floating through my property. That's why I'm going to the expense of putting
up warning signs.

As to whether anyone is or was on my side, I couldn't possibly care less. I
assume that those who actually post here are pretty clear in their
positions. That's fine. But there are many others who "lurk" and don't post,
and it's important to remember this when you try to speak for everyone.
Also, word of this issue will certainly spread from here to other forums and
venues, as it always has. This will help to notify more boaters of the
potential threat of legal consequences for disturbing or molesting nesting
eagles. Many people think that because eagles were de-listed as an
endangered species, that this means that they can now ignore the eagles and
go about whatever they want to do, and the eagles just have to put up with
it.

Heck, that's what *I* though, until the Open Space ranger called me and told
me about the TWO other federal statutes that protect eagles. (Are you smart
enough to find the OTHER one? I don¹t think so...)

So, I learned something I didn't know, and have reacted appropriately by
voluntarily informing an at-risk group of people of the hazard. What the
heck is so wrong with that?

Nothing, of course. You just have an irrational and unreasoning hatred of me
because you perceive me as your "enemy."

As to being "insufferably tiresome," if true (which I doubt) that's your
fault (the collective you) not mine. All you have to do is agree with me and
avoid infringing on my rights and invading my property. If you do that,
we'll get along fine. But so long as there is an entrenched, organized
agenda of violating my (and other private landowner's) rights that manifests
itself here, I'll continue to stand up for landowners. If you don't like it,
tough.

I know you may find my arguments "tiresome," but that's a derogation of your
intellect, not an impeachment of my position.


As if yer spam-bombing of r.b.p is not a clear and obvious symptom of,
heh-heh, wallowing in yer own "small-minded, petty selfishness."

Nice try at redefining "spam-bombing." Sorry, but every post is an original,
so it cannot, by definition, be either spam, or bombing. You just hate the
fact that I type faster than you do, and that I'm willing to continue a
debate for as long as anyone is interested in it. You hate that because you
know I'm right and you're wrong, and you'd just as soon shut me up so that
only your voice and agenda are heard.

Good luck with that...heh...


You succeed in yer self-proclaimed goal of "annoy[ing] people
WORLDWIDE", and then turn around and act all self-righteous about any
expression of that annoyance.

Nah. I'm just pointing out the rank hypocrisy of claiming to be oh-so
environmentally sensitive while at the same time being so filled with
unreasoning hate that when, after months of NOT "spam-bombing" RBP, I make a
perfectly reasonable post informing paddlers, for their own protection, of a
serious issue of environmental conservation, all you can do is engage in
petty sniping.

You could have engaged in rational debate about the issue of the possible
unintended consequences of boating activities as regards threatened and
endangered species, which is very real issue worthy of discussion. But you
didn't. This demonstrates the shallowness of both your intellect and your
morals.

What a putz.

You certainly are.

seldom_seen wrote:
Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and bandwidth is wasted.

Fortunately he begins all hist posts with "An Internet persona"
so his stuff is easy to skip.

Time wasted interacting with Mr. Weiser's selfish fantasies would be
better spent on paddling, gear maintenance, trip planning, or, failing
that, cleaning out the kitchen junk drawer.

Last weekend while watching NFL football, I repaired the mesh pocket
on my PDF where some chipmunks had chewed it because I left an empty
Clif Bar wrapper in there overnight, at Cave Draw camp on the Bruneau!
This was in early July. The PFD looks odd because I used gray thread
to mend a black mesh pocket, but this produces a certain retro look.
Certainly I wouldn't want to look like a New Schooler.

It's raining here in northern California, so I'll be boatin' soon.

Several weeks ago, I saw a huge bald eagle eating a dead salmon, just
upstream from the pedestrian bridge over the Tuolumne in La Grange.

A Usenet persona calling itself Bill Tuthill wrote:

seldom_seen wrote:
Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and bandwidth is wasted.

Fortunately he begins all hist posts with "An Internet persona"
so his stuff is easy to skip.

Which, of course, you didn't.


Time wasted interacting with Mr. Weiser's selfish fantasies would be
better spent on paddling, gear maintenance, trip planning, or, failing
that, cleaning out the kitchen junk drawer.

Last weekend while watching NFL football, I repaired the mesh pocket
on my PDF where some chipmunks had chewed it because I left an empty
Clif Bar wrapper in there overnight, at Cave Draw camp on the Bruneau!
This was in early July. The PFD looks odd because I used gray thread
to mend a black mesh pocket, but this produces a certain retro look.
Certainly I wouldn't want to look like a New Schooler.

It's raining here in northern California, so I'll be boatin' soon.

Several weeks ago, I saw a huge bald eagle eating a dead salmon, just
upstream from the pedestrian bridge over the Tuolumne in La Grange.

So, knowing the eagles are foraging for winter on the salmon run, and
knowing that it's a federal crime to disturb them while they're doing so,
would you avoid boating in the area so as not to disturb the eagles, or
would you boat anyway, caring nothing if that eagle you might spook off a
dead fish might eventually starve to death because you don't have the
ethical and moral strength to curtail your selfish pleasure-seeking ways for
the benefit of a protected and majestic creature?

--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

A Usenet persona calling itself seldom_seen wrote:

Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and a lot of bandwidth is
wasted.

So, informing Colorado boaters that they may face federal and state criminal
charges if they disturb eagles who have moved in next to a creek is "nothing
positive." I suppose you'd prefer that I just not tell anybody and prosecute
the first person who happens along and let them pass the word?

How very altruistic of you.

Time wasted interacting with Mr. Weiser's selfish fantasies would be
better spent on paddling, gear maintenance, trip planning, or, failing
that, cleaning out the kitchen junk drawer.

Of course, I did manage to get YOU to "waste" some time, didn't I? What does
that say about your intellect?


Never wrestle with a pig. You'll both get dirty and only the pig will
enjoy it...

Unless you're planning a pig roast.



--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself seldom_seen wrote:

: Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
: provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
: ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and a lot of bandwidth is
: wasted.

: So, informing Colorado boaters that they may face federal and state criminal
: charges if they disturb eagles who have moved in next to a creek is "nothing
: positive." I suppose you'd prefer that I just not tell anybody and prosecute
: the first person who happens along and let them pass the word?

: How very altruistic of you.

Ok... you've done your public service announcement.

bye

snip

--
John Nelson
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A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself seldom_seen wrote:

: Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
: provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
: ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and a lot of bandwidth is
: wasted.

: So, informing Colorado boaters that they may face federal and state criminal
: charges if they disturb eagles who have moved in next to a creek is "nothing
: positive." I suppose you'd prefer that I just not tell anybody and prosecute
: the first person who happens along and let them pass the word?

: How very altruistic of you.

Ok... you've done your public service announcement.

bye

Have a nice trip, write if you get work.
--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

: Scott Weiser wrote:
: : A Usenet persona calling itself seldom_seen wrote:
:
: : Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
: : provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
: : ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and a lot of bandwidth is
: : wasted.
:
: : So, informing Colorado boaters that they may face federal and state criminal
: : charges if they disturb eagles who have moved in next to a creek is "nothing
: : positive." I suppose you'd prefer that I just not tell anybody and prosecute
: : the first person who happens along and let them pass the word?
:
: : How very altruistic of you.
:
: Ok... you've done your public service announcement.
:
: bye

: Have a nice trip, write if you get work.

Oh, don't worry Scottie... like most Americans, I have a job, I have a
mortgage...

At the end of the week... I have what I have because I earned it, not
because my mommie bought it and left it to me.... maybe that's why I
don't get upset if some kid walks cross the lawn...

--
John Nelson
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Chicago Area Paddling/Fishing Page
http://www.chicagopaddling.org http://www.chicagofishing.org
(A Non-Commercial Web Site: No Sponsors, No Paid Ads and Nothing to Sell)

A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

Scott Weiser wrote:
: A Usenet persona calling itself Chicago Paddling-Fishing wrote:

: Scott Weiser wrote:
: : A Usenet persona calling itself seldom_seen wrote:
:
: : Mr. Weiser is a sad, sad, puppy. His periodic Usenet forays may
: : provide him with a wierd sense of social contact and a boost for his
: : ego, but nothing positive is contributed, and a lot of bandwidth is
: : wasted.
:
: : So, informing Colorado boaters that they may face federal and state
criminal
: : charges if they disturb eagles who have moved in next to a creek is
"nothing
: : positive." I suppose you'd prefer that I just not tell anybody and
prosecute
: : the first person who happens along and let them pass the word?
:
: : How very altruistic of you.
:
: Ok... you've done your public service announcement.
:
: bye

: Have a nice trip, write if you get work.

Oh, don't worry Scottie... like most Americans, I have a job, I have a
mortgage...

At the end of the week... I have what I have because I earned it, not
because my mommie bought it and left it to me....

And somehow you think that inheritance is "free" in this country? How does
that explain the nearly $250,00 in estate taxes that my brother and I have
to pay out of our own pockets?

maybe that's why I
don't get upset if some kid walks cross the lawn...

You're free to get upset, build a fence or not, as you please. So am I. Your
right to object or not is no greater or less than mine. I simply choose
differently, as you could, and I suspect would if the "some kid" was a gang
of teenage nere-do-wells hopping your back fence to hold a pot and beer
party in your backyard while you're trying to sleep.
--
Regards,
Scott Weiser

"I love the Internet, I no longer have to depend on
friends, family and co-workers, I can annoy people WORLDWIDE!" TM

© 2005 Scott Weiser