Generator question
 

I 'inherited' a 3phase 15KW generator without documentation or even a brand
name on it. It works well enough but I don't understand some of the
switches on its front panel. Perhaps somebody more into generators then I
am can explain them?

Except for the start/stop switch (I do understand that one) there are two
other switches, marked with the following positions:

switch 1 :
L1L2
L2L3
L1L2 -- set on this position
OFF
L1-N
L2-N
L3-N

switch 2:
OFF
L1 -- set on this position
L2

What function do these switches have? Is it safe to 'try out' the other
settings?

TIA

Jor

Generator question
 

Jor,

The switches are probably to tell you which connections are being monitored
by the meters. As the generator is three phase the loads can be connected
in several ways. It allows you to balance the loads between phases. It
probably also allows you to connect your loads to several optional voltages
and to use either "Y" or "D" configuration. For instance you'll probably be
able to use 115 vac single phase up to 416 vac three phase.

This could well be a former military generator with a convenient "tap
channge over board" and a 50/60 hertz capability. If so, it would be very
worth your while to get the military technical publication operators manual.

Do you have the manufacturer and model information?

Butch
"U" wrote in message
...
I 'inherited' a 3phase 15KW generator without documentation or even a brand
name on it. It works well enough but I don't understand some of the
switches on its front panel. Perhaps somebody more into generators then I
am can explain them?

Except for the start/stop switch (I do understand that one) there are two
other switches, marked with the following positions:

switch 1 :
L1L2
L2L3
L1L2 -- set on this position
OFF
L1-N
L2-N
L3-N

switch 2:
OFF
L1 -- set on this position
L2

What function do these switches have? Is it safe to 'try out' the other
settings?

TIA

Jor

Generator question
 

U wrote:

I 'inherited' a 3phase 15KW generator without documentation or even a brand
name on it. It works well enough but I don't understand some of the
switches on its front panel. Perhaps somebody more into generators then I
am can explain them?

Except for the start/stop switch (I do understand that one) there are two
other switches, marked with the following positions:

switch 1 :
L1L2
L2L3
L1L2 -- set on this position
OFF
L1-N
L2-N
L3-N

switch 2:
OFF
L1 -- set on this position
L2

What function do these switches have? Is it safe to 'try out' the other
settings?

TIA

Jor


Why do you say it is 3 phase, if you don't have documents?
Generators with 3 hot phase outputs often include delta or Y
selection switches.

3 wire output, including neutral, plus ground, could be a 2 hot
phase system, with a 4 wire connector output.

If it is 2 phase (that's 2 hot phases plus neutral), then the
switching makes sense to me. Otherwise, I would be very sceptical.

The switches control which wires on the output are connected to
output, and which wire is neutral, (itself a hot connector for 110 v
output.)

I wouldn't go so far as switching while the test toaster is plugged
in, unless I was wearing rubber boots.

Terry K

Generator question
 

On Friday 25 November 2005 21:00, Terry Spragg wrote:

U wrote:

I 'inherited' a 3phase 15KW generator without documentation or even a
brand
name on it.


Why do you say it is 3 phase, if you don't have documents?
Generators with 3 hot phase outputs often include delta or Y
selection switches.

3 wire output, including neutral, plus ground, could be a 2 hot
phase system, with a 4 wire connector output.

If it is 2 phase (that's 2 hot phases plus neutral), then the
switching makes sense to me. Otherwise, I would be very sceptical.

The switches control which wires on the output are connected to
output, and which wire is neutral, (itself a hot connector for 110 v
output.)

I wouldn't go so far as switching while the test toaster is plugged
in, unless I was wearing rubber boots.

Terry K


Terry,

The generator is built into a boat I recently purchased. Frankly the only
reason I am saying it's 3-phase is because the previous owner told me so
and because I know I can get (at least?) two different output voltages at
the same time. If 2-phase is normal for a generator (I have no idea) then
it could also be 2 phase I suppose.
But, is there any advantage being able to choose which wires are connected
to the output and which one is neutral? As opposed to the generator simply
being wired correctly once and for all in the factory?

Thanks,

Jor

Generator question
 

Jor,

It is almost certainly a 3 phase generator. As I said before, the advantage
of a 3 phase generator is the ability to balance the load among the three
phases. If all the load is on a single phase the generator will be
operating in an unbalanced condition.

Recommend you talk to a local electrician to get a better picture of how the
generator is designed to operate.

Good luck.

Butch

Butch
"U" wrote in message
. ..
On Friday 25 November 2005 21:00, Terry Spragg wrote:

U wrote:

I 'inherited' a 3phase 15KW generator without documentation or even a
brand
name on it.


Why do you say it is 3 phase, if you don't have documents?
Generators with 3 hot phase outputs often include delta or Y
selection switches.

3 wire output, including neutral, plus ground, could be a 2 hot
phase system, with a 4 wire connector output.

If it is 2 phase (that's 2 hot phases plus neutral), then the
switching makes sense to me. Otherwise, I would be very sceptical.

The switches control which wires on the output are connected to
output, and which wire is neutral, (itself a hot connector for 110 v
output.)

I wouldn't go so far as switching while the test toaster is plugged
in, unless I was wearing rubber boots.

Terry K


Terry,

The generator is built into a boat I recently purchased. Frankly the only
reason I am saying it's 3-phase is because the previous owner told me so
and because I know I can get (at least?) two different output voltages at
the same time. If 2-phase is normal for a generator (I have no idea) then
it could also be 2 phase I suppose.
But, is there any advantage being able to choose which wires are connected
to the output and which one is neutral? As opposed to the generator simply
being wired correctly once and for all in the factory?

Thanks,

Jor

Generator question
 

Butch Davis wrote:

Jor,

It is almost certainly a 3 phase generator. As I said before, the advantage
of a 3 phase generator is the ability to balance the load among the three
phases. If all the load is on a single phase the generator will be
operating in an unbalanced condition.

Recommend you talk to a local electrician to get a better picture of how the
generator is designed to operate.

Good luck.

Butch

Butch
"U" wrote in message
. ..

On Friday 25 November 2005 21:00, Terry Spragg wrote:


U wrote:


I 'inherited' a 3phase 15KW generator without documentation or even a

brand

name on it.


Why do you say it is 3 phase, if you don't have documents?
Generators with 3 hot phase outputs often include delta or Y
selection switches.

3 wire output, including neutral, plus ground, could be a 2 hot
phase system, with a 4 wire connector output.

If it is 2 phase (that's 2 hot phases plus neutral), then the
switching makes sense to me. Otherwise, I would be very sceptical.

The switches control which wires on the output are connected to
output, and which wire is neutral, (itself a hot connector for 110 v
output.)

I wouldn't go so far as switching while the test toaster is plugged
in, unless I was wearing rubber boots.

Terry K


Terry,

The generator is built into a boat I recently purchased. Frankly the only
reason I am saying it's 3-phase is because the previous owner told me so
and because I know I can get (at least?) two different output voltages at
the same time. If 2-phase is normal for a generator (I have no idea) then
it could also be 2 phase I suppose.
But, is there any advantage being able to choose which wires are connected
to the output and which one is neutral? As opposed to the generator simply
being wired correctly once and for all in the factory?

Thanks,

Jor






See above balancing the load output.

3 phase (5 wires!) might be an advantage if you had about a 20 hp
bow thruster, but I don't know of any other good reason to put 3
phases into a pleasure boat.

2 phase (4 wires) advantage is 220 v output. If you wanted to make
it flexible to work with diverse configurations of nationally wired
appliances it might seem reasonable to have flexible outputs to suit
hard wired outlets, but not to me. I'd wire it and seal it.

I wouldn't think that being able to select which L to make neutral
and ground to earth would be the sort of thing you'd want to
casually switch around with. Once wired in and set up, I'd be
inclined to remove the knob and hang it nearby with a list of
precautions in the bag.

Two odd appliances and the wrong L selected for neutral could set up
the chassis to 220 v differential, it seems possible. Then, some
genius could have decided it was better to remove the safety wire to
stop popping circuits. I know it sounds odd, but if you had seen
some of the things I've seen, you'd understand my trepidation.

Amateurs do amazing things.

Maybe it's a military quality thing that was put in the boat cause
it was relatively cheap surplus?

I wouldn't dare offer advice here without actually grokking the
scam, man.

You better get a pro in on it, and pay up your insurance before he
comes aboard.


Terry K