Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

Harry Krause wrote:

"Overall, do you approve, disapprove or have mixed feelings
Approve 37%
Disapprove 59%

And the Dems are offering what; ever higher taxes, larger government,
more welfare for their "constituents", inflation, and losing the WW? And
who will lead them in this righteous campaign, Hillary, 'Screamin'
Howard Dean, Michael Moore?

--
Skipper

Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

"Skipper" wrote in message
...
Harry Krause wrote:

"Overall, do you approve, disapprove or have mixed feelings
Approve 37%
Disapprove 59%

And the Dems are offering what; ever higher taxes, larger government,
more welfare for their "constituents", inflation, and losing the WW? And
who will lead them in this righteous campaign, Hillary, 'Screamin'
Howard Dean, Michael Moore?

--
Skipper

The poll did not ask for a comparison with anyone else. Read the question
again, if possible.

Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
I would take any of them over what we have now. All have more brainpower,
more ethics and are likely to lead our country in a better direction.

I guess I would ask those in the "approve" column, while there are any of
them left, "What has this presidummy done in his entire term of office
that you approve of?"

Capt. jeff

He calls them "folks". That makes them feel like grandma just stopped by
with a freshly baked cookies. This appeals to infantile oral cravings, and
quiets their minds.

Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
I would take any of them over what we have now. All have more brainpower,
more ethics and are likely to lead our country in a better direction.

LOL. Thanks for Friday morning giggle.

Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

I would take any of them over what we have now. All have more
brainpower, more ethics and are likely to lead our country in a better
direction.

I guess I would ask those in the "approve" column, while there are any
of them left, "What has this presidummy done in his entire term of
office that you approve of?"

Capt. jeff

Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
I would take any of them over what we have now. All have more brainpower,
more ethics and are likely to lead our country in a better direction.

LOL. Thanks for Friday morning giggle.



The real giggle is how far these news organizations will go to slant the
polls to create the news they want to broadcast
************************************************** **************************
****************
Pollsters from CBS News, AP/Ipsos, and ABC/Washington Post have come out
with their latest numbers -- all of which show President Bush's approval
rating at less than 40%. This of course does not appear to be good news for
Bush.

However, a closer look at the demographic and political breakdown of the
respondents in the three polls should bring into question the accuracy of
the polling data in all three polls.

For example, the CBS News poll, which shows that Bush's approval rating is
at 35%, reports that an unweighted sample shows that 34.8% of its
respondents self-identified as Democrats, while 27.6% said they were
Republicans. While the unweighted sample yielded a seven-point differential
favoring the Dems, a weighted sample had the spread at 11% points in favor
of the Dems. This represents at least a 10-11 point swing in the electorate
since the 2004 election (and perhaps as much as 14 points), when Bush won by
about three points and the Repubs won the aggregate House vote by about four
points.

The AP/Ipsos poll, which has Bush's approval rating at 37%, said its
respondents self-identified 49% Dem and 40% Repub, yielding a nine-point
differential favoring the Dems. This represents a 12-point swing in the
electorate since 2004.

Only 80% of the respondents in this poll were registered voters, while 13%
of the respondents reported that they were unemployed (the current
unemployment rate is about 5%-6%), and 31% said they were between the ages
of 18-34 (this was the only age group that Sen. John Kerry carried in the
last presidential election, and it actually voted in a much smaller
percentage than that represented in this poll).

The ABC/Washington Post poll, which shows that Bush's approval rating is at
39%, saw its respondents break down thusly: 52% said they leaned toward the
Dems, and 41% leaned toward the Repubs. That represents a 14-point swing
since last year's elections.

Will someone explain how the demographic breakdowns in these polls represent
accurate pictures of the electorate, given what we know about the 2004
election (and the 2002 mid-terms)?

As we've written before, these swings go against short-, mid-, and long-term
history. They are not realistic breakdowns of the electorate in any way,
shape, or form. This is at best sloppy work.

We wrote about this same phenomenon -- happening to varying degrees in
different polls -- back on October 14, September 23, September 15, August 5,
and July 2.

http://www.theneweditor.com/index.ph...un-With-Polls-...
..html

Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
I would take any of them over what we have now. All have more
brainpower,
more ethics and are likely to lead our country in a better direction.

LOL. Thanks for Friday morning giggle.



The real giggle is how far these news organizations will go to slant the
polls to create the news they want to broadcast
************************************************** **************************
****************
Pollsters from CBS News, AP/Ipsos, and ABC/Washington Post have come out
with their latest numbers -- all of which show President Bush's approval
rating at less than 40%. This of course does not appear to be good news
for
Bush.

However, a closer look at the demographic and political breakdown of the
respondents in the three polls should bring into question the accuracy of
the polling data in all three polls.

For example, the CBS News poll, which shows that Bush's approval rating is
at 35%, reports that an unweighted sample shows that 34.8% of its
respondents self-identified as Democrats, while 27.6% said they were
Republicans.




While the unweighted sample yielded a seven-point differential
favoring the Dems, a weighted sample had the spread at 11% points in favor
of the Dems. This represents at least a 10-11 point swing in the
electorate
since the 2004 election (and perhaps as much as 14 points), when Bush won
by
about three points and the Repubs won the aggregate House vote by about
four
points.

The AP/Ipsos poll, which has Bush's approval rating at 37%, said its
respondents self-identified 49% Dem and 40% Repub, yielding a nine-point
differential favoring the Dems. This represents a 12-point swing in the
electorate since 2004.

Only 80% of the respondents in this poll were registered voters, while 13%
of the respondents reported that they were unemployed (the current
unemployment rate is about 5%-6%), and 31% said they were between the ages
of 18-34 (this was the only age group that Sen. John Kerry carried in the
last presidential election, and it actually voted in a much smaller
percentage than that represented in this poll).

The ABC/Washington Post poll, which shows that Bush's approval rating is
at
39%, saw its respondents break down thusly: 52% said they leaned toward
the
Dems, and 41% leaned toward the Repubs. That represents a 14-point swing
since last year's elections.

Will someone explain how the demographic breakdowns in these polls
represent
accurate pictures of the electorate, given what we know about the 2004
election (and the 2002 mid-terms)?

As we've written before, these swings go against short-, mid-, and
long-term
history. They are not realistic breakdowns of the electorate in any way,
shape, or form. This is at best sloppy work.

It's not "sloppy work" at all. It's well-orchestrated. The pollsters are
on the same side as CIA and State Dept. bureaucrats in this policy dispute
that escalated into a conspiracy to destabilize a US President.


Good link, Fritz!

Ask not for whom the poll tolls
 

On Fri, 4 Nov 2005 11:07:32 -0500, "P Fritz"
wrote:


"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"Tamaroak" wrote in message
...
I would take any of them over what we have now. All have more brainpower,
more ethics and are likely to lead our country in a better direction.

LOL. Thanks for Friday morning giggle.



The real giggle is how far these news organizations will go to slant the
polls to create the news they want to broadcast
************************************************* ***************************
****************
Pollsters from CBS News, AP/Ipsos, and ABC/Washington Post have come out
with their latest numbers -- all of which show President Bush's approval
rating at less than 40%. This of course does not appear to be good news for
Bush.

However, a closer look at the demographic and political breakdown of the
respondents in the three polls should bring into question the accuracy of
the polling data in all three polls.

For example, the CBS News poll, which shows that Bush's approval rating is
at 35%, reports that an unweighted sample shows that 34.8% of its
respondents self-identified as Democrats, while 27.6% said they were
Republicans. While the unweighted sample yielded a seven-point differential
favoring the Dems, a weighted sample had the spread at 11% points in favor
of the Dems. This represents at least a 10-11 point swing in the electorate
since the 2004 election (and perhaps as much as 14 points), when Bush won by
about three points and the Repubs won the aggregate House vote by about four
points.

The AP/Ipsos poll, which has Bush's approval rating at 37%, said its
respondents self-identified 49% Dem and 40% Repub, yielding a nine-point
differential favoring the Dems. This represents a 12-point swing in the
electorate since 2004.

Only 80% of the respondents in this poll were registered voters, while 13%
of the respondents reported that they were unemployed (the current
unemployment rate is about 5%-6%), and 31% said they were between the ages
of 18-34 (this was the only age group that Sen. John Kerry carried in the
last presidential election, and it actually voted in a much smaller
percentage than that represented in this poll).

The ABC/Washington Post poll, which shows that Bush's approval rating is at
39%, saw its respondents break down thusly: 52% said they leaned toward the
Dems, and 41% leaned toward the Repubs. That represents a 14-point swing
since last year's elections.

Will someone explain how the demographic breakdowns in these polls represent
accurate pictures of the electorate, given what we know about the 2004
election (and the 2002 mid-terms)?

As we've written before, these swings go against short-, mid-, and long-term
history. They are not realistic breakdowns of the electorate in any way,
shape, or form. This is at best sloppy work.

We wrote about this same phenomenon -- happening to varying degrees in
different polls -- back on October 14, September 23, September 15, August 5,
and July 2.

http://www.theneweditor.com/index.ph...un-With-Polls-...
.html




Now Harry will filter you!

LOL.
--
John H

"It's *not* a baby kicking, bride of mine, it's just a fetus!"

HK