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StarWindSurfer November 2nd 05 05:14 PM

International Sailing
 
Hi,

Ive done lots of sailing here in the states, but what about going
abroad?
My specific questions a

Who and where do i go in a forgien country to "clear customs" ya know,
passport and what not.

Also, what about firearms. Here in the states I have no problem, my
ship is registered in america. Is there a protocall for this? Do I
check them into customs and pick them up on my way out? Or am I not
even allowed to bring them into dock?

Im trying to plan a trip around the world, stoping off at places like
the UK, Germany (ok, well, most of europe) Egypt, South africa,
Austrailia, Maybe India, Japan, and bring it on around to Hawaii have
some fun in central america and then bring it on home to the gulf (and
maybe mexico,cuba,puter-rico). I am just starting to plan this, so any
information at all is welcome. Honestly im pretty clueless at this
point.

Also, what is better/safer/easier/quicker when say going from the US to
the UK, I will be sailing a 40Ft Catamaran, should I cut straight
across or shore hug up to green/iceland and over to the UK?

Any and all info would be apreciated.


Mike November 2nd 05 07:48 PM

International Sailing
 
On 2 Nov 2005 09:14:59 -0800, "StarWindSurfer"
wrote:



Also, what is better/safer/easier/quicker when say going from the US to
the UK, I will be sailing a 40Ft Catamaran, should I cut straight
across or shore hug up to green/iceland and over to the UK?


If you are asking questions like that I think you should access some
kind of theoretical and practical training before you consider such a
voyage.

Contrary to popular opinion in USA you don't need guns when you leave
America. Its quite safe out here - really it is!

If you did meet 'pirates' you can bet that they will be more heavily
armed than you so you have a choice:

1. Don't carry guns - get robbed and live to tell the tale.
2. Carry guns, fight back - get robbed and die in the process.

Your choice.

Mike

Markus Rautanen November 2nd 05 07:52 PM

International Sailing
 
"StarWindSurfer" wrote in message
oups.com...
Also, what about firearms. Here in the states I have no problem, my
ship is registered in america. Is there a protocall for this? Do I
check them into customs and pick them up on my way out? Or am I not
even allowed to bring them into dock?


I have no experience whatsoever regarding customs clearance of firearms, but
that's no reason to give out opinions right? ;)

I'd urge you to consider whether you really want firearms on board. I'd bet
you're almoast certain to run into trouble (at least with customs) if you
have weapons on board. If you're planning to circumnavigate you're bound to
cross some parts of the world where possessing firearms is a much more
serious issue than in the states. Furthermore, I can't imagine why you would
carry them on board in the first place?


--
Markus



d parker November 2nd 05 11:12 PM

International Sailing
 

"Mike" wrote in message
...
On 2 Nov 2005 09:14:59 -0800, "StarWindSurfer"
wrote:



Also, what is better/safer/easier/quicker when say going from the US to
the UK, I will be sailing a 40Ft Catamaran, should I cut straight
across or shore hug up to green/iceland and over to the UK?


If you are asking questions like that I think you should access some
kind of theoretical and practical training before you consider such a
voyage.

Contrary to popular opinion in USA you don't need guns when you leave
America. Its quite safe out here - really it is!

If you did meet 'pirates' you can bet that they will be more heavily
armed than you so you have a choice:

1. Don't carry guns - get robbed and live to tell the tale.
2. Carry guns, fight back - get robbed and die in the process.

Your choice.

Mike


Ditto.. do a google on the death of Sir Peter Blake.

DP



Alan S November 2nd 05 11:15 PM

International Sailing
 

"StarWindSurfer" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

Ive done lots of sailing here in the states, but what about going
abroad?
My specific questions a

Who and where do i go in a forgien country to "clear customs" ya know,
passport and what not.

Also, what about firearms. Here in the states I have no problem, my
ship is registered in america. Is there a protocall for this? Do I
check them into customs and pick them up on my way out? Or am I not
even allowed to bring them into dock?

Im trying to plan a trip around the world, stoping off at places like
the UK, Germany (ok, well, most of europe) Egypt, South africa,
Austrailia, Maybe India, Japan, and bring it on around to Hawaii have
some fun in central america and then bring it on home to the gulf (and
maybe mexico,cuba,puter-rico). I am just starting to plan this, so any
information at all is welcome. Honestly im pretty clueless at this
point.

Also, what is better/safer/easier/quicker when say going from the US to
the UK, I will be sailing a 40Ft Catamaran, should I cut straight
across or shore hug up to green/iceland and over to the UK?

Any and all info would be apreciated.

I would post that message in uk.rec.sailing, but be prepared for potential
snide comments about Americans and guns. uk.rec.sailing is an excellent
resource for sailing information as there is a lot more sailing activity per
capita in Europe than there is here and that particular newsgroup is very
active. They have so many border issues over there and I am sure someone
would tell you the ropes for that neck of the woods. As far as a long blue
water journey goes, it is done all the time (modern technology makes it
easier than it ever has been) and I can't think of a better thing to do in
life, but since I don't know what your skill level is, I'll just say learn a
whole lot about it before you take off. Plan a lot, read a lot, listen a
lot, and do some trips with experienced blue water cruisers for a couple of
years before you go and you will be really grateful that you did.

- A -



d parker November 2nd 05 11:44 PM

International Sailing
 

"StarWindSurfer" wrote in message
oups.com...
Hi,

Ive done lots of sailing here in the states, but what about going
abroad?
My specific questions a

Who and where do i go in a forgien country to "clear customs" ya know,
passport and what not.

Also, what about firearms. Here in the states I have no problem, my
ship is registered in america. Is there a protocall for this? Do I
check them into customs and pick them up on my way out? Or am I not
even allowed to bring them into dock?

Im trying to plan a trip around the world, stoping off at places like
the UK, Germany (ok, well, most of europe) Egypt, South africa,
Austrailia, Maybe India, Japan, and bring it on around to Hawaii have
some fun in central america and then bring it on home to the gulf (and
maybe mexico,cuba,puter-rico). I am just starting to plan this, so any
information at all is welcome. Honestly im pretty clueless at this
point.

Also, what is better/safer/easier/quicker when say going from the US to
the UK, I will be sailing a 40Ft Catamaran, should I cut straight
across or shore hug up to green/iceland and over to the UK?

Any and all info would be apreciated.


You carry the "Q" flag and hoist it on approach. ( it means you require
Pratique). You sail directly to the customs/immigration wharf in the
city/town you have arrived in. Contact them on radio and do not have any
contact with land or other vessels without pemission from the officials.

"Always" fly the flag of your country of origin and the country you are
visiting at the same time. However, you always hoist the visiting countrys
flag higher than that of your own, as a sign of respect. Often, the visiting
nation on the startboard spreaders and your own country on a flagstaff on
the stern.

Exiting is pretty easy. Pull up at the same place you entered the country.
Go through the paperwork etc with the customs officials and simply sail
away- but you cant have contact with land or other boats once this has been
done. Once out of thier waters you may drop thier flag.

Dont carry guns. You will find that not every country in the world has a
"right to bear arms". Without getting politcal about it, just leave em at
home. If for some reason your last name is Heston and you have to take your
gun along make sure you declare them at customs. They will most likely
confiscate it for the period you are visiting.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Exp...476800418.html

If you must take your gun. Dont use it! Its one of the most well known rules
of sea.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Blake_(yachtsman)

DP






Dave Doe November 3rd 05 07:43 PM

International Sailing
 
In article .com,
says...
Hi,

Ive done lots of sailing here in the states, but what about going
abroad?
My specific questions a

Who and where do i go in a forgien country to "clear customs" ya know,
passport and what not.

Also, what about firearms. Here in the states I have no problem, my
ship is registered in america. Is there a protocall for this? Do I
check them into customs and pick them up on my way out? Or am I not
even allowed to bring them into dock?

Im trying to plan a trip around the world, stoping off at places like
the UK, Germany (ok, well, most of europe) Egypt, South africa,
Austrailia, Maybe India, Japan, and bring it on around to Hawaii have
some fun in central america and then bring it on home to the gulf (and
maybe mexico,cuba,puter-rico). I am just starting to plan this, so any
information at all is welcome. Honestly im pretty clueless at this
point.

Also, what is better/safer/easier/quicker when say going from the US to
the UK, I will be sailing a 40Ft Catamaran, should I cut straight
across or shore hug up to green/iceland and over to the UK?

Any and all info would be apreciated.


In addition to the excellent info posted by d.parker, Mike, Markus and
Alan - check out a kiwi's experience sailing up n' around Fiji from NZ -
very funny reading - but some good guff on clearing customs n' other
stuff...

http://www.defiant.net.nz/index.htm

--
Duncan


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