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jay October 31st 05 01:37 AM

Question about submarines And Quaky Perpetual Motion
 
How do submarines rise and dive? Do they require outside energy (as in
the electricity needed to run an aircompresser to pressurize an air
compartment used to later blast out the water from the ballast tank) or
can they function without added energy?
Here's the challenge...will it work?

Is it possible to get a barrel filled with air ( barrel A) to
sink using another barrel( barrel B) that fills with water and Once
the contraption is at the bottom flood the air filled (barrelA) with
water and somehow raise the contraption to surface to do another sink
rise cycle. My thoughts were that you could collect all the air that
is forced out of both barrels during their taking on water phase and
direct it into a smaller high pressure container to be used to later
blast out water for the rise to surface.

What if you started with all three containers at high pressure? Are
you losing energy during each cycle? Is this a perpetual motion
machine?......(Which I understand and believe are not possible) OR does
it simply not work indefinatly?


jay October 31st 05 01:52 AM

Question about submarines And Quaky Perpetual Motion
 
All this about gerbils and tubes. Insert Richard Gere joke here.


jay October 31st 05 02:23 AM

Question about submarines And Quaky Perpetual Motion
 
I thought your first post was funny. No appology needed.
I checked out the site before my post and I still had to ask.
So why sink a container and flood it with water? To spin a turbine
with the high pressure water pouring in....trouble is, how to get that
sunken wreck back up without using more energy than you produce???

Inmpossible, yeah? Boyle's Law and all the heat loss during the
pressurizing Mumbo Jumbo


[email protected] October 31st 05 03:25 AM

Question about submarines And Quaky Perpetual Motion
 

jay wrote:
I thought your first post was funny. No appology needed.
I checked out the site before my post and I still had to ask.
So why sink a container and flood it with water? To spin a turbine
with the high pressure water pouring in....trouble is, how to get that
sunken wreck back up without using more energy than you produce???

Inmpossible, yeah? Boyle's Law and all the heat loss during the
pressurizing Mumbo Jumbo


So, how are you going to pressurize the air being forced out of the
barrels so they can sink? It takes energy, also heats the air,
remember the gas laws. With no input of energy, it will sink (maybe)
but will not rise again. Forcing the water out also takes energy...



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