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With reporters chomping at the bit to announce indictments against key White
House officials, they seem to have ignored this major historic event
yesterday:


Iraq's New Constitution Passed by a Hairsbreadth
By Foreign News Desk
Published: Wednesday, October 26, 2005
zaman.com

The Iraqi constitution put to a public vote on October 15 has been accepted
following the insufficient number of "no" votes recorded in the Sunni
province Ninova.

At least "two third majority" rejection from 18 provinces was required from
the total votes cast for the rejection of the constitution.

Following the Sunni provinces of Salahaddin saying "no" with 81 percent, and
Al Anbar with 96.6 percent, the percentage of "no" votes in Ninova reached
only 55 percent.

Iraqi Electoral Commission member Farid Ayar announced the official results
in the press conference held Tuesday.

Voter turnout was at 63 percentand the total "yes" votes was 78 percent;
therefore, Ayar said, the Iraqi charter was officially passed.

The electoral commission officials and United National authorities "could
not find any corruption that would affect the results of the referendum." In
the remaining provinces including Diala, the fourth province with a Sunni
majority, the number of "yes" votes for the constitution emerged higher than
the "no" votes. Reportedly, vote counting will be repeated in some
districts, however, the constitution was approved in the referendum and the
new parliament, with full constitutional authorization for four years, will
be chosen in the general elections planned to be held on December 15.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
With reporters chomping at the bit to announce indictments against key
White House officials, they seem to have ignored this major historic event
yesterday:


Iraq's New Constitution Passed by a Hairsbreadth
By Foreign News Desk
Published: Wednesday, October 26, 2005
zaman.com

The Iraqi constitution put to a public vote on October 15 has been
accepted following the insufficient number of "no" votes recorded in the
Sunni province Ninova.

snip

The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq. Turn
on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see first hand.

One of my best friend's son is coming home for a 2 week leave from Iraq
(USMC) shortly. He has been there for over 1 year and will have to return
again after his short R&R leave in the States.

He has been hit with shrapnel twice while on patrol and has seen some of his
platoon members killed and wounded.

I will post his exact words about how he sees thing there and about going
back to Hell.

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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:11:04 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq.
Turn on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see first
hand.

It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted is
a positive sign.

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:11:04 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq.
Turn on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see first
hand.

It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted is
a positive sign.

The Sunni's would have had a bigger hand in crafting the constitution if
they had gotten into the game at the beginning.

It is easier to change the system from the inside.

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NOYB wrote:
With reporters chomping at the bit to announce indictments against key White
House officials, they seem to have ignored this major historic event
yesterday:


Iraq's New Constitution Passed by a Hairsbreadth
By Foreign News Desk
Published: Wednesday, October 26, 2005
zaman.com

The Iraqi constitution put to a public vote on October 15 has been accepted
following the insufficient number of "no" votes recorded in the Sunni
province Ninova.

At least "two third majority" rejection from 18 provinces was required from
the total votes cast for the rejection of the constitution.

Following the Sunni provinces of Salahaddin saying "no" with 81 percent, and
Al Anbar with 96.6 percent, the percentage of "no" votes in Ninova reached
only 55 percent.

Iraqi Electoral Commission member Farid Ayar announced the official results
in the press conference held Tuesday.

Voter turnout was at 63 percentand the total "yes" votes was 78 percent;
therefore, Ayar said, the Iraqi charter was officially passed.

The electoral commission officials and United National authorities "could
not find any corruption that would affect the results of the referendum." In
the remaining provinces including Diala, the fourth province with a Sunni
majority, the number of "yes" votes for the constitution emerged higher than
the "no" votes. Reportedly, vote counting will be repeated in some
districts, however, the constitution was approved in the referendum and the
new parliament, with full constitutional authorization for four years, will
be chosen in the general elections planned to be held on December 15.




Interesting way to introduce Democracy to the Middle East.
Tell the majority to go pee up a rope because it's only a majority, not
a "super majority".

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*JimH* wrote:

The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq.

It's the right wing's war. You should be proud.


Turn
on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see first hand.

One of my best friend's son is coming home for a 2 week leave from Iraq
(USMC) shortly. He has been there for over 1 year and will have to return
again after his short R&R leave in the States.

It's the right wing's war, you should be proud of the fact that no one
wants to muster for the armed services because they know it's a farce,
hence depleting our troops so the veterans have to go back.

He has been hit with shrapnel twice while on patrol and has seen some of his
platoon members killed and wounded.

There's something the right should be proud of, and it sounds like you
are.

I will post his exact words about how he sees thing there and about going
back to Hell.

Yeah....I'll bet.

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" *JimH*" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
With reporters chomping at the bit to announce indictments against key
White House officials, they seem to have ignored this major historic
event yesterday:


Iraq's New Constitution Passed by a Hairsbreadth
By Foreign News Desk
Published: Wednesday, October 26, 2005
zaman.com

The Iraqi constitution put to a public vote on October 15 has been
accepted following the insufficient number of "no" votes recorded in the
Sunni province Ninova.

snip

The good news is never covered by the news organizations........

I swear, I must get a different version of NPR than the entire rest of the
country. They mentioned the Iraqi constitution in the same way as the story
NOYB posted.

Who told you to say the news organizations don't cover this stuff???
Seriously - who?

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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
With reporters chomping at the bit to announce indictments against key
White
House officials, they seem to have ignored this major historic event
yesterday:


Iraq's New Constitution Passed by a Hairsbreadth
By Foreign News Desk
Published: Wednesday, October 26, 2005
zaman.com


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4351680.stm

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:11:04 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq.
Turn on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see first
hand.

It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted is
a positive sign.

Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a pretty
sad sign.

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"Gorf" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...
With reporters chomping at the bit to announce indictments against key
White
House officials, they seem to have ignored this major historic event
yesterday:


Iraq's New Constitution Passed by a Hairsbreadth
By Foreign News Desk
Published: Wednesday, October 26, 2005
zaman.com


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4351680.stm

Ah, yes. Talk of "fraud" was all over the news last week. But that's old
news. Which brings up another point: where are the news organizations that
carried the "fraud" story now that the Iraqi election commission *AND* an
independent UN commission certified that the vote was fair?

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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:24:34 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.

"Our news media" must have, or we wouldn't be discussing it now, would we? ;-)

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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:30:10 +0000, NOYB wrote:


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4351680.stm

Ah, yes. Talk of "fraud" was all over the news last week. But that's old
news. Which brings up another point: where are the news organizations
that carried the "fraud" story now that the Iraqi election commission
*AND* an independent UN commission certified that the vote was fair?

Since it was a BBC link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/mid...st/4375160.stm

But then, that to is old news. Today's news:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4382164.stm

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:24:34 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.

"Our news media" must have, or we wouldn't be discussing it now, would we?
;-)

Uh oh. Logic. :-)

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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:11:04 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq.
Turn on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see
first
hand.

It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with
it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted
is
a positive sign.

Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.

Ya know...in the past, I've used the term "grownup news sources" in messages
to you, and you've usually found it condescending. But, I think you're
beginning to see that I'm right. You do not know where to find grownup news
sources.

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It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted is
a positive sign.


Funny thing, it looks like they didn't really vote a constitution into
effect. They voted that they want a different one than what they're
getting.

NOYB wrote:
Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a pretty
sad sign.


Says who? It was in our local paper (very conservative) trumpeted as yet
another triumph of Bush-Cheney foreign policy, and was other news
including NPR.

DSK

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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:24:34 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.

"Our news media" must have, or we wouldn't be discussing it now, would we?
;-)

No. I dug it up on a Turkish news website.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"thunder" wrote in message
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On Thu, 27 Oct 2005 16:24:34 +0000, NOYB wrote:


Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.

"Our news media" must have, or we wouldn't be discussing it now, would
we? ;-)

Uh oh. Logic. :-)

Check again. My link was to a Turkish news website.

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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:11:04 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they
are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq.
Turn on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see
first
hand.

It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with
it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some
time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted
is
a positive sign.

Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.

Ya know...in the past, I've used the term "grownup news sources" in
messages to you, and you've usually found it condescending. But, I think
you're beginning to see that I'm right.

Yes, I know that you're right. But NPR ain't one of them.

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"NOYB" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"NOYB" wrote in message
ink.net...

"thunder" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Oct 2005 19:11:04 -0400, *JimH* wrote:


The good news is never covered by the news organizations........they
are
more interested in celebrating and rejoicing in 2,000 deaths in Iraq.
Turn on most any TV network or cable channel today and you will see
first
hand.

It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with
it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some
time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted
is
a positive sign.

Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.

Ya know...in the past, I've used the term "grownup news sources" in
messages to you, and you've usually found it condescending. But, I think
you're beginning to see that I'm right.

Yes, I know that you're right. But NPR ain't one of them.



Well, that's where I heard about the elections, Einstein. Now, think of set
theory which everyone but you learned in junior high school math. Think of
the set defined as (to use your words) "our news media". Explain why NPR
does not fall into that defined set.

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"DSK" wrote in message
...
It may be a little early to call the passing of the constitution "good
news". From the voting, it's clear that the Sunnis are not happy with
it,
and as they are the main source of the insurgents, it will take some time
to see if it's passing has any effect. Still, the fact that they voted
is
a positive sign.


Funny thing, it looks like they didn't really vote a constitution into
effect. They voted that they want a different one than what they're
getting.

NOYB wrote:
Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a
pretty sad sign.


Says who? It was in our local paper (very conservative) trumpeted as yet
another triumph of Bush-Cheney foreign policy, and was other news
including NPR.

DSK


Also on our local trash AM station, which uses a CBS news feed.

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"NOYB" wrote ...

Regardless, the fact that our news media failed to report on it is a pretty
sad sign.

To assert as fact the event was not reported is just plain goofy.

-rick-