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[email protected] October 13th 05 05:41 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 
Guys,

I am looking for a friend for a Yamaha 13x17 prop, is there a cheap
online place (not ebay)?

Also looking for yamaha accessories like speedometer, fuel gage and
such .. any idea for that?

Thanks,

Matt


D-unit October 13th 05 06:11 PM

Where to get cheap props?
 
Theres a few on Ebay.


db


wrote in message
ps.com...
Guys,

I am looking for a friend for a Yamaha 13x17 prop, is there a cheap
online place (not ebay)?

Also looking for yamaha accessories like speedometer, fuel gage and
such .. any idea for that?

Thanks,

Matt




trainfan1 October 13th 05 07:37 PM

Where to get cheap props?
 
wrote:
Guys,

I am looking for a friend for a Yamaha 13x17 prop, is there a cheap
online place (not ebay)?

Also looking for yamaha accessories like speedometer, fuel gage and
such .. any idea for that?

Thanks,

Matt


www.froogle.com

Rob

October 13th 05 09:35 PM

Where to get cheap props?
 
wrote:
: Guys,

: I am looking for a friend for a Yamaha 13x17 prop, is there a cheap
: online place (not ebay)?

: Also looking for yamaha accessories like speedometer, fuel gage and
: such .. any idea for that?

: Thanks,

: Matt


I've been quite impressed with iboats.com I boutht a Michitan wheel prop
from them at a very good price. They also have other vendors. If you want
to get the price down, get an alunimum prop. The stainless ones are much
more expensive. For the minute extra performance, I don't see the
advantage in them but I'm we'll enter a "religious war" debating
the subject.

barry

Doug Kanter October 13th 05 09:38 PM

Where to get cheap props?
 

wrote in message
oups.com...
wrote:
: Guys,

: I am looking for a friend for a Yamaha 13x17 prop, is there a cheap
: online place (not ebay)?

: Also looking for yamaha accessories like speedometer, fuel gage and
: such .. any idea for that?

: Thanks,

: Matt


I've been quite impressed with iboats.com I boutht a Michitan wheel prop
from them at a very good price. They also have other vendors. If you
want
to get the price down, get an alunimum prop. The stainless ones are much
more expensive. For the minute extra performance, I don't see the
advantage in them but I'm we'll enter a "religious war" debating
the subject.

barry


Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and an
aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one perform
differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
characteristics?



Skipper October 13th 05 09:47 PM

Where to get cheap props?
 
Doug Kanter wrote:

Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and an
aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one perform
differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
characteristics?


Stainless steel is STIFFER than the aluminum prop and will outperform
it. Also, aluminum props ding up much easier than steel props. Stainless
is the way to go.

--
Skipper

October 13th 05 10:05 PM

Where to get cheap props?
 
Skipper wrote:
: Doug Kanter wrote:

: Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and an
: aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one perform
: differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
: characteristics?

: Stainless steel is STIFFER than the aluminum prop and will outperform
: it. Also, aluminum props ding up much easier than steel props. Stainless
: is the way to go.

(I knew this would get started)

In the comparison tests I've read (Trailerboats magazine) the speed advantage
of Stainless was about 2 MPH. The cost premium was over 3X the cost of
aluminum. So... the choice is yours but from my perspective (and I've had
a boat for geez... over 40 years) I wasn't willing to pay the price
premium for Stanless given the minute performance advantage.

(I'll bow out of the now)

barry


Skipper October 13th 05 10:21 PM

Where to get cheap props?
 
wrote:

(I knew this would get started)


In the comparison tests I've read (Trailerboats magazine) the speed
advantage of Stainless was about 2 MPH. The cost premium was over 3X
the cost of aluminum. So... the choice is yours but from my
perspective (and I've had a boat for geez... over 40 years) I wasn't
willing to pay the price premium for Stanless given the minute
performance advantage.


(I'll bow out of the now)


No need to bow out. I'll not be arguing with the grizzled putz. Most
know he issues his childish gibberish counterpose just to troll. He does
not respect truth or the original requesters question.

BTW, when I was racing C stock hydros back 50 years ago you didn't see
many aluminum props on racing boats of ANY class. The physics of the
damn twirly things haven't changed all that much since. You go with
stainless for PERFORMANCE advantages.

--
Skipper

trainfan1 October 14th 05 02:17 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 
Doug Kanter wrote:



Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and an
aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one perform
differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
characteristics?



Doug, no one would make a NiBrAl, brass, or SS prop with blades as thick
as needed for the "same prop"(dia, pitch, area, shape) in aluminum, so
you will never be able to make that comparison.

A SS prop will be forgiving on logs & sandbars. Personal experience on
our Glastron shows little difference in speed(SS slight advantage) but
the SS is less prone to blow-outs and gives a better trim attide than
the "same spec" aluminum.

Polished SS props can be very pretty on your floating Camaro, too!

Rob

*JimH* October 14th 05 02:39 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 15:47:16 -0500, Skipper wrote:

Stainless is the way to go.


If all your boat ever expects to see is water.




Give that man a cigar!



*JimH* October 14th 05 02:42 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 

"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:



Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and an
aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one perform
differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
characteristics?


1. Blade thickness.

2. Blade flex.

The SS prop has the advantage in both categories and is therefore more
efficient.

The downside is that if you hit something you will end up doing some serious
damage to your lower unit vs. an aluminum prop shedding part of its blades.



Skipper October 14th 05 02:58 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 

--
Skipper

Skipper October 14th 05 03:08 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 
*JimH* wrote:

The SS prop has the advantage in both categories and is therefore more
efficient.


The downside is that if you hit something you will end up doing some
serious damage to your lower unit vs. an aluminum prop shedding part
of its blades.


I've come to a different conclusion after 5 decades of scraping bottoms.
The SS holds up better and does not add substantial additional risk. I
say that having hit submerged concrete at WOT while river running (even
having to repair holed lower units from impacts). If you do a LOT of
boating, SS is the way to go.

--
Skipper

Doug Kanter October 14th 05 03:13 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 

"trainfan1" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:



Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and an
aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one perform
differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
characteristics?


Doug, no one would make a NiBrAl, brass, or SS prop with blades as thick
as needed for the "same prop"(dia, pitch, area, shape) in aluminum, so you
will never be able to make that comparison.

A SS prop will be forgiving on logs & sandbars. Personal experience on
our Glastron shows little difference in speed(SS slight advantage) but the
SS is less prone to blow-outs and gives a better trim attide than the
"same spec" aluminum.

Polished SS props can be very pretty on your floating Camaro, too!

Rob


With that last line, you sold me on aluminum, simply for spiritual reasons.
Too many floating Camaros around here, driven by "brunos", as my son
(correctly) calls them. If I ever find out I have three months to live and
prison doesn't matter, I plan on adding some new fishing structure to a few
of the lakes around here. :-)



FREDO October 17th 05 06:40 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 
I thought Skippy had a "21' Bilgeliner?
Fredo

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Skipper wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and
an
aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one perform
differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
characteristics?


Stainless steel is STIFFER than the aluminum prop and will outperform
it. Also, aluminum props ding up much easier than steel props. Stainless
is the way to go.

--
Skipper



Identically dimensioned aluminum and stainless props will perform about
the same under identical circumstances for most boaters. If you are
pushing a 21' fishboat with a 200 hp outboard, and you have two props, one
alum and the other stainless, and they have the same pitch, diameter and
blade geometry, the performance will be about the same. Different cup
design, very high speed boat, et cetera, and thinner blades available on a
stainless prop might make a difference.

What would an ersatz Skipper know when the real Skipper never owned a
boat?




FREDO October 23rd 05 06:38 AM

Where to get cheap props?
 
R u sure?
I thought he had a 2152 or 2252 bilgeliner cuddy cabin?
Wasn't that the boat he was talking about trailering all the way to the sea
of Cortez? Also didn't he challenge someone here to a trailering contest at
one time?
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
FREDO wrote:
I thought Skippy had a "21' Bilgeliner?
Fredo

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Skipper wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:

Just sort of lurking in this conversation, but if a stainless prop and
an
aluminum one were exactly the same dimensionally, why would one
perform
differently than the other? Friction differences due to surface
characteristics?
Stainless steel is STIFFER than the aluminum prop and will outperform
it. Also, aluminum props ding up much easier than steel props.
Stainless
is the way to go.

--
Skipper

Identically dimensioned aluminum and stainless props will perform about
the same under identical circumstances for most boaters. If you are
pushing a 21' fishboat with a 200 hp outboard, and you have two props,
one alum and the other stainless, and they have the same pitch, diameter
and blade geometry, the performance will be about the same. Different
cup design, very high speed boat, et cetera, and thinner blades
available on a stainless prop might make a difference.

What would an ersatz Skipper know when the real Skipper never owned a
boat?




Naw. Skipper never owned a Bayliner.





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