On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:47:46 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:51:30 -0500, Skipper wrote:

interesting to hear from outside the USA...

This from the Canadian Press, which apparently, is a bit more objective
than our own press and politicians.
George Bush, the man
David Warren - The Ottawa Citizen

Sunday, September 11, 2005

There's plenty wrong with America, since you asked. I'm tempted to say
that the only difference from Canada is that they have a few things
right. That would be unfair, of course -- I am often pleased to discover
things we still get right.

But one of them would not be disaster preparation.

Donno what glue this guy's been sniffing, but he's Just Plain Wrong. In
the first place, what little military we DO have is trained almost
exclusively for rescue, life-saving, that kinda thing rather than killing.

But we DON'T depend on the Military. We have several crack units of
search-and-rescue, disaster relief, etc. In Vancouver we have the Urban
Rescue Team, and DART from Ottawa. The only problem with DART is that the
Gov't has been too busy arguing politics to get them at Site in a timely
matter. I suspect that wouldn't happen if the disaster was local.

Lloyd

Put the whole article up. Do you think a few search and rescue folks would have
handled the problems in New Orleans?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:16:55 -0400, PocoLoco wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:47:46 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:51:30 -0500, Skipper wrote:

But one of them would not be disaster preparation.

Donno what glue this guy's been sniffing, but he's Just Plain Wrong. In
the first place, what little military we DO have is trained almost
exclusively for rescue, life-saving, that kinda thing rather than killing.

But we DON'T depend on the Military. We have several crack units of
search-and-rescue, disaster relief, etc. In Vancouver we have the Urban
Rescue Team, and DART from Ottawa. The only problem with DART is that the
Gov't has been too busy arguing politics to get them at Site in a timely
matter. I suspect that wouldn't happen if the disaster was local.

Lloyd

Put the whole article up. Do you think a few search and rescue folks would have
^^^^^
handled the problems in New Orleans?

That's my point: there's more than "a few". We have over 1000 S&R crew in
Vancouver alone. So yes, I think we could handle such a disaster. Then
again, we don't have cities of 5 million people below sea-level in a
hurricane belt.

Lloyd

On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:38:55 -0700, Lloyd wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:16:55 -0400, PocoLoco wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:47:46 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:51:30 -0500, Skipper wrote:

But one of them would not be disaster preparation.

Donno what glue this guy's been sniffing, but he's Just Plain Wrong. In
the first place, what little military we DO have is trained almost
exclusively for rescue, life-saving, that kinda thing rather than killing.

But we DON'T depend on the Military. We have several crack units of
search-and-rescue, disaster relief, etc. In Vancouver we have the Urban
Rescue Team, and DART from Ottawa. The only problem with DART is that the
Gov't has been too busy arguing politics to get them at Site in a timely
matter. I suspect that wouldn't happen if the disaster was local.

Lloyd

Put the whole article up. Do you think a few search and rescue folks would have
^^^^^
handled the problems in New Orleans?

That's my point: there's more than "a few". We have over 1000 S&R crew in
Vancouver alone. So yes, I think we could handle such a disaster. Then
again, we don't have cities of 5 million people below sea-level in a
hurricane belt.

Lloyd

While being shot at?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco wrote:
On Tue, 18 Oct 2005 13:38:55 -0700, Lloyd wrote:


On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:16:55 -0400, PocoLoco wrote:


On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:47:46 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter wrote:


On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:51:30 -0500, Skipper wrote:


But one of them would not be disaster preparation.

Donno what glue this guy's been sniffing, but he's Just Plain Wrong. In
the first place, what little military we DO have is trained almost
exclusively for rescue, life-saving, that kinda thing rather than killing.

But we DON'T depend on the Military. We have several crack units of
search-and-rescue, disaster relief, etc. In Vancouver we have the Urban
Rescue Team, and DART from Ottawa. The only problem with DART is that the
Gov't has been too busy arguing politics to get them at Site in a timely
matter. I suspect that wouldn't happen if the disaster was local.

Lloyd

Put the whole article up. Do you think a few search and rescue folks would have

^^^^^

handled the problems in New Orleans?

That's my point: there's more than "a few". We have over 1000 S&R crew in
Vancouver alone. So yes, I think we could handle such a disaster. Then
again, we don't have cities of 5 million people below sea-level in a
hurricane belt.

Lloyd


While being shot at?

Shot at?? We Canucks are law abidin', don't you know!

"Lloyd" wrote in message
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On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 13:16:55 -0400, PocoLoco wrote:

On Sun, 16 Oct 2005 09:47:46 -0700, Lloyd Sumpter
wrote:

On Mon, 10 Oct 2005 14:51:30 -0500, Skipper wrote:

But one of them would not be disaster preparation.

Donno what glue this guy's been sniffing, but he's Just Plain Wrong.
In
the first place, what little military we DO have is trained almost
exclusively for rescue, life-saving, that kinda thing rather than
killing.

But we DON'T depend on the Military. We have several crack units of
search-and-rescue, disaster relief, etc. In Vancouver we have the
Urban
Rescue Team, and DART from Ottawa. The only problem with DART is that
the
Gov't has been too busy arguing politics to get them at Site in a
timely
matter. I suspect that wouldn't happen if the disaster was local.

Lloyd

Put the whole article up. Do you think a few search and rescue folks
would have
^^^^^
handled the problems in New Orleans?

That's my point: there's more than "a few". We have over 1000 S&R crew
in
Vancouver alone. So yes, I think we could handle such a disaster. Then
again, we don't have cities of 5 million people below sea-level in a
hurricane belt.

Lloyd

Is it Vancouver that has Mr Floatie running for mayor to bring attention
to the way the city dumps raw sewage into the ocean? Just saw it on TV.
The authorities are claiming Mr Floatie isn't a real person, but a
character just because he is dressed up like a turd.

Someplace on the west coast of canada anyway.

Lloyd Sumpter wrote:


Donno what glue this guy's been sniffing, but he's Just Plain Wrong. In
the first place, what little military we DO have is trained almost
exclusively for rescue, life-saving, that kinda thing rather than killing.
snip...

An exception might be the JTF2. They can compete with the best doing
the rough stuff. Our snipers are top drawer also.