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Dan Krueger July 17th 04 01:57 AM

Carpet glue question / reccomendations
 
You are 100% right. The adhesive I was thinking about is the outdoor variety.
The carpeting is labeled indoor/outdoor. I thought they still generically
called it "indoor/outdoor" adhesive but I stand corrected.

How many people glue what is essentially Astroturf in their living room anyway??? :)

Dan

Marshall Banana wrote:

Also Sprach Dan Krueger :


They make an indoor/outdoor carpet adhesive that you can trowel on.



Nonono, don't do that! The Indoor/outdoor adhesive is not waterproof by a
long shot, and turns the consistiency of chewed bubblegum after it gets
wet.

I've used Henry's #263 Outdoor carpet adhesive with good results. It's
solvent based, instead of the indoor/outdoor stuff which is water
based. You spread it on the floor with a notched trowel. It gives you
a half hour or so of working time before it sets, but only if you use it
in the shade, and preferably on a cool day. in the bright sun, it starts
to set up after 5 minutes or so, I found that out the hard way.

You can buy in in Home Depot or Lowes in the carpet area.

http://www.henryadhesives.com/prod-263.htm


Contact adhesive is good stuff but tricky to work with. Zero room for error!



Aggreed, but most people have trouble because they use it
incorrectly. They think it has to be tacky when you assemble the
surfaces, and that gets you into trouble because you rarely positin the
objects correctly the first time. You want both sides to be cured, so
that if you let them touch they don't stick. After you carefully have the
pieces in position, you then apply even, firm pressure to create the
bond. A roller works well. Once they're bonded, there's no way to
reposition them, unlike the carpet adhesive where you have a few minutes
to stretch the wrinkles out before it cures.

Dan



Chris Mares July 20th 04 04:47 AM

Carpet glue question / reccomendations
 
Thats what I chose to use and it was pretty sticky stuff which seemed to
have ammonia as an aid in drying.
It's been two days now and the carpet is stuck down better then the
original.

Marshall Banana wrote:
Also Sprach Dan Krueger :


They make an indoor/outdoor carpet adhesive that you can trowel on.



Nonono, don't do that! The Indoor/outdoor adhesive is not waterproof by a
long shot, and turns the consistiency of chewed bubblegum after it gets
wet.

I've used Henry's #263 Outdoor carpet adhesive with good results. It's
solvent based, instead of the indoor/outdoor stuff which is water
based. You spread it on the floor with a notched trowel. It gives you
a half hour or so of working time before it sets, but only if you use it
in the shade, and preferably on a cool day. in the bright sun, it starts
to set up after 5 minutes or so, I found that out the hard way.

You can buy in in Home Depot or Lowes in the carpet area.

http://www.henryadhesives.com/prod-263.htm


Contact adhesive is good stuff but tricky to work with. Zero room for error!



Aggreed, but most people have trouble because they use it
incorrectly. They think it has to be tacky when you assemble the
surfaces, and that gets you into trouble because you rarely positin the
objects correctly the first time. You want both sides to be cured, so
that if you let them touch they don't stick. After you carefully have the
pieces in position, you then apply even, firm pressure to create the
bond. A roller works well. Once they're bonded, there's no way to
reposition them, unlike the carpet adhesive where you have a few minutes
to stretch the wrinkles out before it cures.

Dan



Chris Mares July 20th 04 04:50 AM

Carpet glue question / reccomendations
 
Thanks to everyone here with all the great suggestions. Snap out carpet
would have been great but would have also required too much planning and
I just don't think this age of boat is worth trying to revamp as the
newer boats.


Chris Mares wrote:

Hi everyone.
Hey does anyone have any recommendations on carpet adhesive for gluing
to a fiberglass deck?



Chris Mares July 20th 04 04:50 AM

Carpet glue question / reccomendations
 
Thanks to everyone here with all the great suggestions. Snap out carpet
would have been great but would have also required too much planning and
I just don't think this age of boat is worth trying to revamp as the
newer boats.


Chris Mares wrote:

Hi everyone.
Hey does anyone have any recommendations on carpet adhesive for gluing
to a fiberglass deck?



Comcast News July 22nd 04 12:10 AM

Carpet glue question / reccomendations
 
Speaking of boat carpets, I wanna replace mine. What is the best thing to
use to remove the old carpet without damaging the fiberglass.

Thanks


"Chris Mares" wrote in message
news:MD0Lc.27859$SD3.12085@okepread06...
Thanks to everyone here with all the great suggestions. Snap out carpet
would have been great but would have also required too much planning and
I just don't think this age of boat is worth trying to revamp as the
newer boats.


Chris Mares wrote:

Hi everyone.
Hey does anyone have any recommendations on carpet adhesive for gluing
to a fiberglass deck?





Wayne.B July 22nd 04 04:42 AM

Carpet glue question / reccomendations
 
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:10:40 -0400, "Comcast News"
wrote:

Speaking of boat carpets, I wanna replace mine. What is the best thing to
use to remove the old carpet without damaging the fiberglass.


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I'd start with a heat gun on the low setting and a plastic scraper.

For glue residue, try one of the citrus based solvents first. After
that you're on your own with what ever works.


sunedog July 23rd 04 03:04 PM

Carpet glue question / reccomendations
 
Wayne.B wrote in message . ..
On Wed, 21 Jul 2004 19:10:40 -0400, "Comcast News"
wrote:

Speaking of boat carpets, I wanna replace mine. What is the best thing to
use to remove the old carpet without damaging the fiberglass.


========================================

I'd start with a heat gun on the low setting and a plastic scraper.

For glue residue, try one of the citrus based solvents first. After
that you're on your own with what ever works.


I've done two pontoon boats (carpet over plywood) and one bow rider
(carpet over fiberglass) and each time I had no trouble just pulling
the carpet up with my hands (and maybe a putty knife). There wasn't
enough residue to telegraph through the new carpet so I never bothered
to remove it. Never had a problem with new carpet sticking. Always
used contact cement (original solvent type, not water based).


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