Harry Krause wrote in message ...
I suspect the original poster is not completely familiar with
terminology. I think he has but one engine, and that there is a Morse
dual handle control at each station...that is...a separate throttle and
shifter handle at each station, as opposed to a single-lever control at
each station.

My Parker is equipped that way...a separate shift and throttle lever at
each station.


You're correct in both accounts, Harry.. a single Yam 250 it has.

-Brett

the game, man. wrote:

Harry Krause wrote in message ...
I suspect the original poster is not completely familiar with
terminology. I think he has but one engine, and that there is a Morse
dual handle control at each station...that is...a separate throttle and
shifter handle at each station, as opposed to a single-lever control at
each station.

My Parker is equipped that way...a separate shift and throttle lever at
each station.


You're correct in both accounts, Harry.. a single Yam 250 it has.

-Brett


Aha...the 250. Would appreciate knowing your performance figures...with,
say, half load of fuel, couple of folks on board...do you have a fuel
flow meter?

We have the F225 four cycle.

Are there any boats set up as you describe?

Yes.

Point being, you had no point.

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Gould 0738 wrote:
I say, with the tide going out (in) and the wind going sideways (left ways,
no,
right ways), lots of times the boat can get a fair amount of way on while you
try and sort it out.


If there is substantial wind and/or current you wil be using the throttles as
well as the gears. 10th of a second? Long before you push the throttle as far
as it would take to make a gear change, you will indeed notice a pronounced
change in RPM. The error will be immediately apparent. There shouldn't be any
"trying to sort out" involved. If you screw up in the middle of a landing, you
have to know how what you did affected things and have a plan to counter or
recover. It's way too late to sort anything out. You either have a workable
program to recover or you abort and start over.

Situational awareness. Don't leave home without it.

Personally, I prefer single lever controls. On most that I'm used to,
there will be no RPM increase until after you are in gear, but this
varies between installations on different boats.
I've always worked under the belief that except in extreme conditions,
that if I have to use anything more than gears and rudder(s) (single or
multi screw), then I've screwed up the approach.
For all intents, I'd agree fully with the above .... you need to be 4-5
steps ahead of the boat, ready to alter your thinking because it's
extremely rare that you will ever dock exactly the same way at the same
dock with the same boat ... twice...... and never be afraid to go
around and do it again.

otn

On 6/29/2004 8:05 PM, Gould 0738 wrote:

Are there any boats set up as you describe?


Yes.

Most I've seen are, but then I'm more familiar with single screws and
single O/B runabouts.

For twins, I'm used to seeing (from left to right, T=Throttle, G=Gear
shifter):

LT LG | RG RT


Maybe it's a setup that's popular only in the PNW?



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~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
On 6/29/2004 8:05 PM, Gould 0738 wrote:
For twins, I'm used to seeing (from left to right, T=Throttle, G=Gear
shifter):

LT LG | RG RT


On the boat I recently had, a 36' Carver, the controls were set up with the
gear shift levers on the left of the helm, and the throttles on the right.
Each pair of handles were "L" shaped with the angle pointing in, which made
it easy to grab both handles with one hand and move them together.

To use your notation (P=port. S= starboard, T= throttle, G= gear shift)

PG SG (steering wheel) PT ST


With the setup that you describe above, where the throttles are on the
outside of the gear shift, I would think that it would either take two hands
to move the throttles together or you would have to do it in two step, which
would make steering a bit difficult.

Rod

On 7/1/2004 2:43 PM, Rod McInnis wrote:

"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...

On 6/29/2004 8:05 PM, Gould 0738 wrote:

For twins, I'm used to seeing (from left to right, T=Throttle, G=Gear

shifter):

LT LG | RG RT



On the boat I recently had, a 36' Carver, the controls were set up with the
gear shift levers on the left of the helm, and the throttles on the right.
Each pair of handles were "L" shaped with the angle pointing in, which made
it easy to grab both handles with one hand and move them together.

To use your notation (P=port. S= starboard, T= throttle, G= gear shift)

D'oh! I'm just getting back into summer nautical mode - I should have
thought of using the proper terminology too...

PG SG (steering wheel) PT ST


With the setup that you describe above, where the throttles are on the
outside of the gear shift, I would think that it would either take two hands
to move the throttles together or you would have to do it in two step, which
would make steering a bit difficult.

Rod

I think the theory behind having the gear shifts together is that you
can easily maneuver at slow speeds with one hand using those levers
alone. I've seen some twins perform some amazing maneuvers, something
I'd never want to try with a single screw. Anyway, I think I like your
example better since the throttles are together as well as the gears.

Ah, well; My preference is still outboard style with a single lever for
everything.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows