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Don White June 14th 04 02:23 AM

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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote in
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More RTC states, less crime. The nation`s violent crime rate has decreased
every year since 1991 and in 2002 hit a 23-year low. In the same period,

17
states adopted and 13 states improved RTC laws. RTC states have lower
violent crime rates, on average: 24% lower total violent crime, 22% lower
murder, 37% lower robbery, and 20% lower aggravated assault. The five
states with the lowest violent crime rates are RTC states. (Data: FBI)

Perhaps the Nazi Fachists that hate the idea of an armed citizen should be
forced to wear yellow armbands. Then the criminals will know who to go
after and not force us that carry to draw our weapons.


** I'll match my 'restricted' provinces against your RTC states anytime.




Harry Krause June 14th 04 02:32 AM

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privacy.at Anonymous Remailer wrote:

Then the criminals will know who to go
after and not force us that carry to draw our weapons.




Well people look at you and they say
Is you the law?

bb June 14th 04 02:45 AM

OT More RTC states, less crime
 
On Mon, 14 Jun 2004 02:53:16 +0200 (CEST), "privacy.at Anonymous
Remailer" wrote:

Perhaps the Nazi Fachists


What's a Fachist?

bb



Gould 0738 June 14th 04 02:49 AM

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Bogus Crap.

Are you deliberately spreading this lie, or simply (and stupidly) repeating
something you've been told?

Your argument, (that the less restriction there is on the right to carry
firearms the lower the crime rate will be), refutes itself.

There are only 2 states in the union with almost unlimited right to carry a
concealed weapon.
Vermont, and Alaska.

You'll like the Vermont statistic:
In 2002, Vermont had the second lowest number of violent crimes per 100,000
residents. 106.7 crimes. North Dakota was
lower, at only 78.2 violent crimes per 100,000.

You won't like the Alaska statistic: In the other state where anybody and
everybody can carry a concealed weapon, the violent crime rate is 12th highest
in the country.
563 violent crimes per 10,000 population.

Violent Crimes are the offenses of murder, forcible rape, robbery, and
aggravated assault.

*All* of the eleven states with greater numbers of violent crime per 10,000
population than Alaska also have RTC laws, except Illinois. They states with
higher rates of violent crime than Alaska a

South Carolina 822
Florida 770
Maryland 769
New Mexico 739
Tennesee 716
Louisiana 662
Nevada 637
Illinois 620
Delaware 599
California 593
Texas 578


Illinois has no right to carry, and is in the dirty dozen, crime wise.

The other three states with no right to carry a

Nebraska: 313
Kansas: 376
Wisconsin: 224

While you can establish that the safest state in the union (VT) has almost
unlimited right to carry, it is also true that 11 of the 12 most dangerous
states have very few restrictions on the right to carry.

The states with no RTC are not, as your claim would suggest, unusally high
crime areas or automatically less safe than states with a free-for-all handgun
policy.
Again, look at Alaska.

Eleven of the 12 states with the *highest* per capita crime rate have few or no
restrictions on RTC.

Sources for all numbers in this post: Federal Bureau of Investigation, Uniform
Crime Reports, 2002.

Looks like there's *no* correlation between RTC states and low rates of violent
crime.

Shove that up your NRA pipe and smoke it.





Gould 0738 June 14th 04 03:51 AM

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Do you take a critical look at anything?

Direct quote from your link:
*************
I mangled a link yesterday. You can read here the story of Hugh Owens, the
Saskatchewan evangelical Christian who was fined $1500 by a Canadian human
rights for publishing a newspaper ad

*******************

How the hell does "a Canadian human rights" fine anybody for anything? The
statement doesn't even make sense, yet it's the keystone on which the entire
propaganda piece is built.

Try thinking your way through life, not just responding to statements designed
to trigger hateful and stereotypical emotions.



Don White June 14th 04 05:06 PM

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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote in
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Thanks, but I am quite comfortable living in the States. I read the
following link.

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowli...nes/canada.htm


Another case of not believing all you read. Nova Scotia has had a large
black population since black loyalists settled here after the American
Revolution...and yes the British did keep some slaves here but the practice
was eliminated well before your Civil War.
Toronto didn't surpass us on a percentage basis for black population (if
they do now) until the flood of immigration from the Caribbean since the
'60s. You could probably say most of Toronto's black population is either
1st or 2nd generation from the islands while Nova Scotia's is multi
generation citizens since the 1700's.
Most of the killings in Toronto seem to be gang related.










Don White June 14th 04 05:26 PM

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"Don White" wrote in
also see
http://www.herald.ns.ca/cgi-bin/home...60.raw+Today+2
003/01/22



Joe June 14th 04 05:27 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote in
message vacy.at...

Thanks, but I am quite comfortable living in the States. I read the
following link.

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowli...nes/canada.htm


Another case of not believing all you read. Nova Scotia has had a large
black population since black loyalists settled here after the American
Revolution...and yes the British did keep some slaves here but the

practice
was eliminated well before your Civil War.
Toronto didn't surpass us on a percentage basis for black population (if
they do now) until the flood of immigration from the Caribbean since the
'60s. You could probably say most of Toronto's black population is either
1st or 2nd generation from the islands while Nova Scotia's is multi
generation citizens since the 1700's.
Most of the killings in Toronto seem to be gang related.


According to the 2001 Canadian census, blacks account for only 2.2% of Nova
Scotia's population.

http://tinyurl.com/24t6z



P.Fritz June 14th 04 05:36 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message
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"Don White" wrote in message
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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer" wrote in
message vacy.at...

Thanks, but I am quite comfortable living in the States. I read the
following link.

http://www.bowlingfortruth.com/bowli...nes/canada.htm


Another case of not believing all you read. Nova Scotia has had a large
black population since black loyalists settled here after the American
Revolution...and yes the British did keep some slaves here but the

practice
was eliminated well before your Civil War.
Toronto didn't surpass us on a percentage basis for black population (if
they do now) until the flood of immigration from the Caribbean since the
'60s. You could probably say most of Toronto's black population is

either
1st or 2nd generation from the islands while Nova Scotia's is multi
generation citizens since the 1700's.
Most of the killings in Toronto seem to be gang related.


According to the 2001 Canadian census, blacks account for only 2.2% of

Nova
Scotia's population.

http://tinyurl.com/24t6z


BUT...at 2.2% that is a lot.....compared to the 1% in Alberta or B.C.






Don White June 14th 04 07:39 PM

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"Joe" wrote in message

According to the 2001 Canadian census, blacks account for only 2.2% of

Nova
Scotia's population.

http://tinyurl.com/24t6z

I think that is a low figure. Many would not bother to complete a survey and
many of mixed race may not indicate black as their origin. I've read
opinions that 5% would be closer to reality.




Don White June 14th 04 07:46 PM

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"privacy.at Anonymous Remailer"
http://www.nationalreview.com/frum/diary100103.asp

No thanks Canada, I'll take my chances in the States.


Another case of out of date info. The two 'right of center' parties did
merge and now are known as the Conservative Party.







Joe June 14th 04 10:03 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message

According to the 2001 Canadian census, blacks account for only 2.2% of

Nova
Scotia's population.

http://tinyurl.com/24t6z

I think that is a low figure. Many would not bother to complete a survey

and
many of mixed race may not indicate black as their origin. I've read
opinions that 5% would be closer to reality.


You're right, it probably is a low figure.
But I would also venture to guess there are as many lazy *whites* as a
percentage of the population as there are blacks, making the overall
percentages very accurate.

How about you Don?
Do you think it's only the blacks in Canada who don't bother to complete a
survey?




Don White June 15th 04 12:42 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message

Naw...I bet lots of pathetic trollers do the same...how about you?



Joe June 15th 04 12:49 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message

Naw...I bet lots of pathetic trollers do the same...how about you?



Can't answer the question?

Don't worry, I'm sure Harpo will be around soon to try and bail you out.



Don White June 15th 04 01:03 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message

That you Snippy?? They say rumors of your death were an exaggeration.



Joe June 15th 04 01:12 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message

That you Snippy?? They say rumors of your death were an exaggeration.


Can't answer the question?



Don White June 15th 04 01:19 AM

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"Joe" wrote in message

If you could read properly, you'd see I did.
Can you?



Joe June 15th 04 01:28 AM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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"Joe" wrote in message

If you could read properly, you'd see I did.
Can you?



If I take your "Naw..." as an answer, then I guess you agree with me that
the census numbers are very accurate.



basskisser June 15th 04 05:04 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message ...
"Joe" wrote in message

If you could read properly, you'd see I did.
Can you?


Don, you'll have to excuse Joe, he's....well....stupid!!

Joe June 15th 04 06:42 PM

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"Kevin Noble, AKA basskisser" wrote in message
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Don, you'll have to excuse Joe, he's....well....stupid!!


Stupidity is relative.

Compared to someone like you, conceived from the dirty end of an old whiskey
bottle, I'm a genius.




Harry Krause June 15th 04 07:07 PM

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Joe wrote:
"Kevin Noble, AKA basskisser" wrote in message
om...



Don, you'll have to excuse Joe, he's....well....stupid!!



Stupidity is relative.



Indeed. It is deep in your genes.

Joe June 15th 04 07:36 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:
"Kevin Noble, AKA basskisser" wrote in message
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Don, you'll have to excuse Joe, he's....well....stupid!!



Stupidity is relative.



Indeed. It is deep in your genes.


And the spawn from the clean end chimes in.




Don White June 15th 04 07:53 PM

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Things must be boring in K..K..Kansas these days...eh Snippy?



Joe June 15th 04 08:05 PM

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"Don White" wrote in message
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Things must be boring in K..K..Kansas these days...eh Snippy?



Not smart enought to trace an IP?




Harry Krause June 15th 04 08:08 PM

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Joe wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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Things must be boring in K..K..Kansas these days...eh Snippy?




Not smart enought to trace an IP?






Poor dumb joe...things an IP cannot be munged.

jim-- June 15th 04 10:03 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message
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Things must be boring in K..K..Kansas these days...eh Snippy?




Not smart enought to trace an IP?






Poor dumb joe...things an IP cannot be munged.


How is it that you know so much about that subject?



Harry Krause June 15th 04 10:52 PM

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jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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Things must be boring in K..K..Kansas these days...eh Snippy?




Not smart enought to trace an IP?






Poor dumb joe...things an IP cannot be munged.



How is it that you know so much about that subject?




Never said I did, but I do know that an IP address can be munged so that
that average idiot (you know, the fellow you see in the mirror) cannot
trace it.

How do I know this? An old friend of mine, a fellow who spent 20 years
as a cable splicer for the telco and then 10 years as a senior systems
designer for CISCO and is now a VP of research for one of the newer
telcos, has told me this for years and has also shown me how he can do
it. Not that this knowledge is unique to him...but it is a fairly
trivial task for someone who knows what he/she is doing.

That excludes you, of course.

BTW, what was it you actually did for a living, Dennis, before your job
was sent offshore to a 2nd grade dropout in Malayasia?

jim-- June 15th 04 11:19 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Joe wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
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Things must be boring in K..K..Kansas these days...eh Snippy?




Not smart enought to trace an IP?






Poor dumb joe...things an IP cannot be munged.



How is it that you know so much about that subject?




Never said I did, but I do know that an IP address can be munged so that
that average idiot (you know, the fellow you see in the mirror) cannot
trace it.

How do I know this? An old friend of mine, a fellow who spent 20 years
as a cable splicer for the telco and then 10 years as a senior systems
designer for CISCO and is now a VP of research for one of the newer
telcos, has told me this for years and has also shown me how he can do
it. Not that this knowledge is unique to him...but it is a fairly
trivial task for someone who knows what he/she is doing.

That excludes you, of course.

BTW, what was it you actually did for a living, Dennis, before your job
was sent offshore to a 2nd grade dropout in Malayasia?


LOL!



Bert Robbins June 16th 04 12:17 AM

OT More RTC states, less crime
 
It's called spoofing and anybody that has been around the Internet 12 or
more years should be able to do it in their sleep.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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jim-- wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Joe wrote:

"Don White" wrote in message
...


Things must be boring in K..K..Kansas these days...eh Snippy?




Not smart enought to trace an IP?






Poor dumb joe...things an IP cannot be munged.



How is it that you know so much about that subject?




Never said I did, but I do know that an IP address can be munged so that
that average idiot (you know, the fellow you see in the mirror) cannot
trace it.

How do I know this? An old friend of mine, a fellow who spent 20 years
as a cable splicer for the telco and then 10 years as a senior systems
designer for CISCO and is now a VP of research for one of the newer
telcos, has told me this for years and has also shown me how he can do
it. Not that this knowledge is unique to him...but it is a fairly
trivial task for someone who knows what he/she is doing.

That excludes you, of course.

BTW, what was it you actually did for a living, Dennis, before your job
was sent offshore to a 2nd grade dropout in Malayasia?




basskisser June 16th 04 02:48 PM

OT More RTC states, less crime
 
"Joe" wrote in message .. .
"Kevin Noble, AKA basskisser" wrote in message
om...


Don, you'll have to excuse Joe, he's....well....stupid!!


Stupidity is relative.

Compared to someone like you, conceived from the dirty end of an old whiskey
bottle, I'm a genius.


Let's see, then. Do you think that if someone considered himself a
genius, that when he made a statement, and presented that statement as
fact, that he'd have some sort of evidence and/or facts, to back up
his "genius" statements?
So, let's see some proof of at least SOME of the things you've said
about me.

First of all, I find it actually funny that you are such a pussy that
you make statements like the above, but hide like a little baby when
confronted. The fact that you make such statements, KNOWING that you
are too much of a sissy to back them up, is quite ignorant. You hide.
I've told you when I'd be in your area, and would be more than happy
to look you up. But, you know that you've made statements that you are
too scared to back up, right? Yes or no.

You've said I suffer from AFS. Please provide any evidence to support
that. Only a truly stupid or ignorant person would make such a claim
without fact. Have any?

Would you like me to go on about the ignorant assumptions you've made,
or do you get the point? Doubtful.


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