Harry Krause wrote:

DSK wrote:

SNIP
there were five objective greats: both Roosevelts,
Wilson, Johnson and Reagan. I would rank Reagan #2,
behind FDR. Normatively, I don't like much that FDR
did at all, but there is no disputing that he did it,
and changed the political landscape in fundamental,
enduring ways.
SNIP

I can't imagine any serious person putting LBJ on a list of great
Presidents. Wilson is a bit of a stretch too.

Stanley Barthfarkle wrote:

This last comment speaks volumes about the true character of
Conservatives
in this country- They give FDR his due-



Oh? I guess that means the legion of Republicans who regard FDR as a
traitor and sneer that the New Deal "failed" aren't really conservatives?

DSK


Great presidents of the last Century?

Wilson

Check.

FDR

Check.

Harry S Truman

No.

JFK

YOU HAVE GOT TO BE ****ING KIDDING!!!

Bill Clinton

DITTO!!!

Kennedy didn't do squatty-doo in terms of anything with
lasting impact. We'll have to see if Clinton did, but
apart from the welfare reform act of 1996, which he had
previously vetoed in nearly identical form, and which
the notorious Dick Morris told him he *must* sign if he
hoped to have a chance of re-election, Clinton didn't
do anything lasting, either.

Lyndon Johnson had a far greater and more lasting
impact than either Kennedy or Clinton.


Nixon might have been among the greatest, had he not ****ed up so
royally. He was one smart cookie. Nixon dead has a more jagged brain
wave than Dubya, who is as close to a flatliner as any many alive.

Nixon was indeed very smart, but with the exception of
opening up to China and engaging in detente with the
Soviet Union, Nixon just did more of what others had
already done. It's worth noting that Reagan *reversed*
detente, and WON the cold war in the process.