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wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Starbuck wrote: I would have to agree, I don't believe I have seen any one use the expression or the punctuation in rec.boats before, but it might be common in certain parts of the country or forums. JimH claims he uses it here all the time. Really? When did I say I use it "all the time" Chuck. This is very interesting. When you are cornered you result to spinning what folks say. It happened here. It happens most often. I was characterizing your statement, (in which you actually said that posting in that fasion "has been a trait of mine for a while"). Notice the lack of quotes around the three words you object to so strongly? You're getting all Bill Clinton here. Next we'll be defining "is". But no, you didn't say that you posted like that using the exact words "all the time", but you did say it had been a "trait (of yours) for a while." (Jeez Loueeze....talk about a spin........) No substantive difference between my characterication of your statement and your exact quote. Why would you claim there is? Hoping to deflect a bit of scrutiny, perhaps? In either case, you eagerly associated yourself with the very unusual style described. Good thing you're not a defense attorney. :-) I've only seen you post that way very very recently; if it has been a "trait, for a while" I should be paying more attention. I haven't noticed. Anyway, no apology for you until Sunday PM at the earliest. Off on the boat for an early fall overnight cruise in the morning. If I become convinced I am wrong in my assumption, I will apologize. So far, not convinced. Nothing to apologize for. That yellow hat, red vest, green shoes and cigar will screw you up every time. So when are you going to apologize to me Chuck? Are you man enough to do that or are you going to continues with your lies? Funny comment from a guy who is one of the few proven liars in the group. ("That old ad did have my address and phone number, I edited them out early this morning"). Just because you finally confessed and apologized for that whopper that doesn't give you license to call "liar" when somebody makes a general statement (saying that you claim to post that way all the time and the microscopically correct and exact quote turns out to be a statement that it had "been a trait for a while.") Yeah, your "edited the ad" story was a small lie, but having told it sort of knocks the legs out from under your high liar-hunting horse, doesn't it? You will be proven to be a liar on this when the dust settles. And it will also be a whopper Chuck. In the mean time, please explain: Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. The service is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted Please explain. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie. |
JimH,
This is the reason I don't believe you are Skipper, but if Chuck does, so be it. No big deal. He has a valid reason to suspect you, but even if he doesn't, it is no big deal. I wouldn't worry about it, remember rec.boats is supposed to be fun. ; ) "*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... Starbuck wrote: I would have to agree, I don't believe I have seen any one use the expression or the punctuation in rec.boats before, but it might be common in certain parts of the country or forums. JimH claims he uses it here all the time. Really? When did I say I use it "all the time" Chuck. This is very interesting. When you are cornered you result to spinning what folks say. It happened here. It happens most often. I was characterizing your statement, (in which you actually said that posting in that fasion "has been a trait of mine for a while"). Notice the lack of quotes around the three words you object to so strongly? You're getting all Bill Clinton here. Next we'll be defining "is". But no, you didn't say that you posted like that using the exact words "all the time", but you did say it had been a "trait (of yours) for a while." (Jeez Loueeze....talk about a spin........) No substantive difference between my characterication of your statement and your exact quote. Why would you claim there is? Hoping to deflect a bit of scrutiny, perhaps? In either case, you eagerly associated yourself with the very unusual style described. Good thing you're not a defense attorney. :-) I've only seen you post that way very very recently; if it has been a "trait, for a while" I should be paying more attention. I haven't noticed. Anyway, no apology for you until Sunday PM at the earliest. Off on the boat for an early fall overnight cruise in the morning. If I become convinced I am wrong in my assumption, I will apologize. So far, not convinced. Nothing to apologize for. That yellow hat, red vest, green shoes and cigar will screw you up every time. So when are you going to apologize to me Chuck? Are you man enough to do that or are you going to continues with your lies? Funny comment from a guy who is one of the few proven liars in the group. ("That old ad did have my address and phone number, I edited them out early this morning"). Just because you finally confessed and apologized for that whopper that doesn't give you license to call "liar" when somebody makes a general statement (saying that you claim to post that way all the time and the microscopically correct and exact quote turns out to be a statement that it had "been a trait for a while.") Yeah, your "edited the ad" story was a small lie, but having told it sort of knocks the legs out from under your high liar-hunting horse, doesn't it? You will be proven to be a liar on this when the dust settles. And it will also be a whopper Chuck. In the mean time, please explain: Skippers IP address is: 68.102.254.136 Using http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm the address shows the user is located in Derby, Kansas. The old Skipper lived in Derby, Kansas. The service is cox.net. Cox.net does not provide service in Avon Lake, Ohio, nor does it in any of the suburbs surrounding Avon Lake. Skipper posted in the "Delay has been charged" thread on 9-28 at 4:10 pm. I posted in that thread on 9-28 at 4:14 pm. I am sure you can further search the NG to find me posting during/near the times Skipper posted Please explain. Then offer an apology for your whopper of a lie. |
Are you are saying that you are 'middle of the road' politically and
represent the majority of views/opinions of US citizens Chuck? BTW: How are you working on that apology you owe me? ;-) Maybe when you apologize for your lies. Remember? What do you have to apologize for? After all, you never post lies now do you, Caesar-boy? |
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:34:41 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:15:17 -0400, PocoLoco wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:06:45 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 19:47:48 -0700, wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 18:12:35 -0700, wrote: Stereotypes facilitate binary thinking because, with a stereotype, entire groups of people can be reduced to a single factor subject to a preexisting conclusion. When you reduce your question to two single factors, you have a binary proposition. Not really. Mathematically, in particular when building a truth table, any number of inputs always resolve to two states - 1 and 0 (yes/no, true/false). This is true for any number system actually no matter how it is expressed. But I digress. There are varying decision states in truth tables, but they still resolve to 1 or 0. In fact, if you combine varying states of NOT, OR, AND, NOR, NAND and EOR and resolve their states, you always end up with either 1 or 0. This is true for any given number of inputs. So, in effect, almost all decisions, if proper rules of logic are applied, are binary - yes/no, true/false. Can't be any other way. Only when probable results are considered. Many decisions require moral judgment and evaluation and in some cases will transcend the bounds of objectivity or logic. Nothing transcends the bounds of objectivity or logic chains - everything is either true or false - even in quantum states which is as close as you can get to a real metaphysical concept that actually works in the real world. Moral judgments are entirely subjective, but they can still be resolved into true/false statements - 1s and 0s if you examine the logic chain properly. I'll be the first to admit it is difficult, but still possible. There can be only one true and one false - no inbetween no matter how many different states of logic are used to process the answer. Be careful, you're stepping on the toes of a lot of liberals who claim conservatives are 'binary thinkers' and therefore bad. I would posit that any individual who denies that binary states are the basis for all thought, left or right, is ignorant. Yes, you could. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:34:41 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:15:17 -0400, PocoLoco wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:06:45 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 19:47:48 -0700, wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 18:12:35 -0700, wrote: Stereotypes facilitate binary thinking because, with a stereotype, entire groups of people can be reduced to a single factor subject to a preexisting conclusion. When you reduce your question to two single factors, you have a binary proposition. Not really. Mathematically, in particular when building a truth table, any number of inputs always resolve to two states - 1 and 0 (yes/no, true/false). This is true for any number system actually no matter how it is expressed. But I digress. There are varying decision states in truth tables, but they still resolve to 1 or 0. In fact, if you combine varying states of NOT, OR, AND, NOR, NAND and EOR and resolve their states, you always end up with either 1 or 0. This is true for any given number of inputs. So, in effect, almost all decisions, if proper rules of logic are applied, are binary - yes/no, true/false. Can't be any other way. Only when probable results are considered. Many decisions require moral judgment and evaluation and in some cases will transcend the bounds of objectivity or logic. Nothing transcends the bounds of objectivity or logic chains - everything is either true or false - even in quantum states which is as close as you can get to a real metaphysical concept that actually works in the real world. Moral judgments are entirely subjective, but they can still be resolved into true/false statements - 1s and 0s if you examine the logic chain properly. I'll be the first to admit it is difficult, but still possible. There can be only one true and one false - no inbetween no matter how many different states of logic are used to process the answer. Be careful, you're stepping on the toes of a lot of liberals who claim conservatives are 'binary thinkers' and therefore bad. I would posit that any individual who denies that binary states are the basis for all thought, left or right, is ignorant. Whoops! I misread 'would' for 'could'. Do you think you could get some of the liberals to admit that, in reality, they *are* binary thinkers after all? Remember, 'binary thinker' is one of the names many liberals love to call conservatives. They believe it's derogatory. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
Starbuck wrote:
JimH, This is the reason I don't believe you are Skipper, but if Chuck does, so be it. No big deal. He has a valid reason to suspect you, but even if he doesn't, it is no big deal. I wouldn't worry about it, remember rec.boats is supposed to be fun. ; ) Gee Starbuck...you sound like you belong on Oprah! |
On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 13:31:50 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 09:06:17 -0400, PocoLoco wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:31:39 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:13:37 -0400, PocoLoco wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:08:51 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 07:48:48 -0400, PocoLoco wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 19:47:48 -0700, wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 18:12:35 -0700, wrote: Stereotypes facilitate binary thinking because, with a stereotype, entire groups of people can be reduced to a single factor subject to a preexisting conclusion. When you reduce your question to two single factors, you have a binary proposition. Not really. Mathematically, in particular when building a truth table, any number of inputs always resolve to two states - 1 and 0 (yes/no, true/false). This is true for any number system actually no matter how it is expressed. But I digress. There are varying decision states in truth tables, but they still resolve to 1 or 0. In fact, if you combine varying states of NOT, OR, AND, NOR, NAND and EOR and resolve their states, you always end up with either 1 or 0. This is true for any given number of inputs. So, in effect, almost all decisions, if proper rules of logic are applied, are binary - yes/no, true/false. Can't be any other way. Only when probable results are considered. Many decisions require moral judgment and evaluation and in some cases will transcend the bounds of objectivity or logic. Example? Judgement and evaluation are part of the decision making process, but they are not the decision. Not really. Judgment and evaluation are emotive states and not relevant. Only facts can resolve true/false statements. We disagree. Evaluating alternatives is part of the process. We use facts to evaluate alternatives. There are no "alternatives". Once you start searching for alternatives, then the process of discovering the truth is corrupted. How are you equating decision making with 'discovering the truth'? You can only have a true decision based on logic. Any alternative decision is by definition false. (Can you tell I'm really bored this morning?) :) Yes. I think you're confusing the decision (the process of deciding) with the outcome of the decision, either A or B (1 or 0). Or maybe I am. One could choose A regardless of the logic leading to the decision. My wife does that all the time. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
That is because I am an overweight black woman worth billions of dollars.
"Don White" wrote in message ... Starbuck wrote: JimH, This is the reason I don't believe you are Skipper, but if Chuck does, so be it. No big deal. He has a valid reason to suspect you, but even if he doesn't, it is no big deal. I wouldn't worry about it, remember rec.boats is supposed to be fun. ; ) Gee Starbuck...you sound like you belong on Oprah! |
"Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: Funny comment from a guy who is one of the few proven liars in the group. ("That old ad did have my address and phone number, I edited them out early this morning"). Just because you finally confessed and apologized for that whopper that doesn't give you license to call "liar" when somebody makes a general statement (saying that you claim to post that way all the time and the microscopically correct and exact quote turns out to be a statement that it had "been a trait for a while.") Yeah, your "edited the ad" story was a small lie, but having told it sort of knocks the legs out from under your high liar-hunting horse, doesn't it? Chuck finally 'takes the gloves off'! Unfortunately, trying to be understanding and forgiving in this newsgroup is viewed as a weakness. Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this ridiculous allegation. I have posted my proof. Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper of a lie. |
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:05:38 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:
"Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: Funny comment from a guy who is one of the few proven liars in the group. ("That old ad did have my address and phone number, I edited them out early this morning"). Just because you finally confessed and apologized for that whopper that doesn't give you license to call "liar" when somebody makes a general statement (saying that you claim to post that way all the time and the microscopically correct and exact quote turns out to be a statement that it had "been a trait for a while.") Yeah, your "edited the ad" story was a small lie, but having told it sort of knocks the legs out from under your high liar-hunting horse, doesn't it? Chuck finally 'takes the gloves off'! Unfortunately, trying to be understanding and forgiving in this newsgroup is viewed as a weakness. Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this ridiculous allegation. I have posted my proof. Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper of a lie. Jim, I don't think the phrase 'whopper of a lie' is really appropriate, do you? If he thought you were spoofing Skipper, and so stated, then he wasn't lying. He was stating a belief, which may have been erroneous. If Bush thought there were WMD in Iraq, and so stated, then he wasn't lying. He was stating a belief, which may have been erroneous. By using the phrase 'whopper of a lie', you are putting Chuck in the same category as a couple of other folks in the group. He may be mistaken, and he may owe you an apology, but he sure doesn't belong with those two! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 11:05:38 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: Funny comment from a guy who is one of the few proven liars in the group. ("That old ad did have my address and phone number, I edited them out early this morning"). Just because you finally confessed and apologized for that whopper that doesn't give you license to call "liar" when somebody makes a general statement (saying that you claim to post that way all the time and the microscopically correct and exact quote turns out to be a statement that it had "been a trait for a while.") Yeah, your "edited the ad" story was a small lie, but having told it sort of knocks the legs out from under your high liar-hunting horse, doesn't it? Chuck finally 'takes the gloves off'! Unfortunately, trying to be understanding and forgiving in this newsgroup is viewed as a weakness. Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this ridiculous allegation. I have posted my proof. Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper of a lie. Jim, I don't think the phrase 'whopper of a lie' is really appropriate, do you? If he thought you were spoofing Skipper, and so stated, then he wasn't lying. He was stating a belief, which may have been erroneous. If Bush thought there were WMD in Iraq, and so stated, then he wasn't lying. He was stating a belief, which may have been erroneous. By using the phrase 'whopper of a lie', you are putting Chuck in the same category as a couple of other folks in the group. He may be mistaken, and he may owe you an apology, but he sure doesn't belong with those two! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." The fact that he made the allegation with no proof is a whopper of a lie to *me*. |
*JimH* wrote:
Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this ridiculous allegation. Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper of a lie. You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me, Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have come home. He KNOWS you are correct now. -- Skipper |
Harry Krause wrote:
You ain't Skipper. And you ain't Krause. He would NEVER go out West for real boating adventures, particularly into the real waters of the Pacific. Krazy Kerry Krause is strictly a local East Coast polluted pond kinda boater. He's just not up The Challenge. Besides, Krause knows how to write. -- Skipper |
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message ... On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 08:13:37 -0400, PocoLoco wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 12:08:51 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On Sat, 01 Oct 2005 07:48:48 -0400, PocoLoco wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 19:47:48 -0700, wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 18:12:35 -0700, wrote: Stereotypes facilitate binary thinking because, with a stereotype, entire groups of people can be reduced to a single factor subject to a preexisting conclusion. When you reduce your question to two single factors, you have a binary proposition. Not really. Mathematically, in particular when building a truth table, any number of inputs always resolve to two states - 1 and 0 (yes/no, true/false). This is true for any number system actually no matter how it is expressed. But I digress. There are varying decision states in truth tables, but they still resolve to 1 or 0. In fact, if you combine varying states of NOT, OR, AND, NOR, NAND and EOR and resolve their states, you always end up with either 1 or 0. This is true for any given number of inputs. So, in effect, almost all decisions, if proper rules of logic are applied, are binary - yes/no, true/false. Can't be any other way. Only when probable results are considered. Many decisions require moral judgment and evaluation and in some cases will transcend the bounds of objectivity or logic. Example? Judgement and evaluation are part of the decision making process, but they are not the decision. Not really. Judgment and evaluation are emotive states and not relevant. Only facts can resolve true/false statements. We disagree. Evaluating alternatives is part of the process. We use facts to evaluate alternatives. There are no "alternatives". Once you start searching for alternatives, then the process of discovering the truth is corrupted. The truth is what ever the wife evaluates and emotes. |
It looks like Harry see's "Smithers" everywhere he looks.
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Skipper wrote: Harry Krause wrote: You ain't Skipper. And you ain't Krause. He would NEVER go out West for real boating adventures, particularly into the real waters of the Pacific. Krazy Kerry Krause is strictly a local East Coast polluted pond kinda boater. He's just not up The Challenge. Besides, Krause knows how to write. -- Skipper -- Sorry, Smithers, but I didn't spend all those hours on damned airplane to get to Hawai'i so I could piddle around on a boat. Been out fishing here twice, and that was sufficient in "boating." I even played a round of golf, which is not among my favorite sports. Went snokeling, tried surfing, visited a shooting range, flew to another island to see volcanoes, took a couple of nature hikes, took in a museum, ate interesting food, kayaked a river, toured a couple of farms and a plantation, et cetera. You know, the touristy stuff. Great fun. Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced priorities. |
Harry,
You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Skipper wrote: Harry Krause wrote: You ain't Skipper. And you ain't Krause. He would NEVER go out West for real boating adventures, particularly into the real waters of the Pacific. Krazy Kerry Krause is strictly a local East Coast polluted pond kinda boater. He's just not up The Challenge. Besides, Krause knows how to write. -- Skipper -- Sorry, Smithers, but I didn't spend all those hours on damned airplane to get to Hawai'i so I could piddle around on a boat. Been out fishing here twice, and that was sufficient in "boating." I even played a round of golf, which is not among my favorite sports. Went snokeling, tried surfing, visited a shooting range, flew to another island to see volcanoes, took a couple of nature hikes, took in a museum, ate interesting food, kayaked a river, toured a couple of farms and a plantation, et cetera. You know, the touristy stuff. Great fun. Republicans: Incompetence. Indictments. Misguided policies. Misplaced priorities. |
Mr. Starbuck wrote:
Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. Who would know better than you...Smithers? |
Harry Krause wrote:
Sorry, Smithers, but I didn't spend all those hours on damned airplane to get to Hawai'i so I could piddle around on a boat...You know,(just did) the touristy stuff. Just the wimpy touristy stuff, huh? Well then, you might just be the Harry Krause we know about. -- Skipper |
Skipper,
Harry has never been up to the "Challenge". What makes you think he is up to it now? "Skipper" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: Sorry, Smithers, but I didn't spend all those hours on damned airplane to get to Hawai'i so I could piddle around on a boat...You know,(just did) the touristy stuff. Just the wimpy touristy stuff, huh? Well then, you might just be the Harry Krause we know about. -- Skipper |
On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck"
wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
JohnH,
In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
LOL! The young, beautiful bride is probably being taught how to surf by one of those macho, surfer types on the beach! On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 08:32:48 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: JohnH, In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
JohnH,
She comes back to the room every 7 to 8 hrs to roll Harry out to the hotel room's patio for some sunshine, fresh air, and to let him enjoy the beauty of Hawaii. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... LOL! The young, beautiful bride is probably being taught how to surf by one of those macho, surfer types on the beach! On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 08:32:48 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: JohnH, In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. "PocoLoco" wrote in message . .. On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:09:23 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote: JohnH, She comes back to the room every 7 to 8 hrs to roll Harry out to the hotel room's patio for some sunshine, fresh air, and to let him enjoy the beauty of Hawaii. "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . LOL! The young, beautiful bride is probably being taught how to surf by one of those macho, surfer types on the beach! On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 08:32:48 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: JohnH, In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." During my Vietnam excursion, the Army flew me to Hawaii for a week with the wife. The first evening there, wife (beautiful, young bride) and I were in bed (napping after our flights :) ), and all of a sudden explosions were going off everywhere! I yelled "INCOMING" and jumped to the floor. After a few seconds, I sheepishly realized that nothing bad was happening. It turned out to be the evening fireworks show put on by the Ilikai Hotel (sp?). -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
JohnH,
I heard similar stories from many of my buddies who were in VN. How long was it before you stopped having "nightmares" of VN? I still dream I am in college and it is exam day, and I can't remember where my class is. I knew I should have gone to the class at least once before exam day. ; ) "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:09:23 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: JohnH, She comes back to the room every 7 to 8 hrs to roll Harry out to the hotel room's patio for some sunshine, fresh air, and to let him enjoy the beauty of Hawaii. "PocoLoco" wrote in message . .. LOL! The young, beautiful bride is probably being taught how to surf by one of those macho, surfer types on the beach! On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 08:32:48 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: JohnH, In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. "PocoLoco" wrote in message m... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." During my Vietnam excursion, the Army flew me to Hawaii for a week with the wife. The first evening there, wife (beautiful, young bride) and I were in bed (napping after our flights :) ), and all of a sudden explosions were going off everywhere! I yelled "INCOMING" and jumped to the floor. After a few seconds, I sheepishly realized that nothing bad was happening. It turned out to be the evening fireworks show put on by the Ilikai Hotel (sp?). -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:46:22 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck"
wrote: JohnH, I heard similar stories from many of my buddies who were in VN. How long was it before you stopped having "nightmares" of VN? I still dream I am in college and it is exam day, and I can't remember where my class is. I knew I should have gone to the class at least once before exam day. ; ) "PocoLoco" wrote in message .. . On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 09:09:23 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: JohnH, She comes back to the room every 7 to 8 hrs to roll Harry out to the hotel room's patio for some sunshine, fresh air, and to let him enjoy the beauty of Hawaii. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... LOL! The young, beautiful bride is probably being taught how to surf by one of those macho, surfer types on the beach! On Sun, 2 Oct 2005 08:32:48 -0400, "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: JohnH, In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. "PocoLoco" wrote in message om... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." During my Vietnam excursion, the Army flew me to Hawaii for a week with the wife. The first evening there, wife (beautiful, young bride) and I were in bed (napping after our flights :) ), and all of a sudden explosions were going off everywhere! I yelled "INCOMING" and jumped to the floor. After a few seconds, I sheepishly realized that nothing bad was happening. It turned out to be the evening fireworks show put on by the Ilikai Hotel (sp?). -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Luckily, I was a Combat Engineer in Vietnam. I didn't face the crap the Infantry guys faced on a daily basis. Most of our injuries were from land mines/booby traps, or the kinds of things that happen when troops and heavy equipment get together. I would have infrequent dreams, nothing approaching the screaming nightmares shown on TV. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote in message ... JohnH, In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. Did anyone notice that harry went to hawaii in the extreme offseason?.......looks like he is spending all his money on gas for his lobsta boat. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
In article , Skipper says...
Harry Krause wrote: You ain't Skipper. And you ain't Krause. He would NEVER go out West for real boating adventures, particularly into the real waters of the Pacific. Krazy Kerry Krause is strictly a local East Coast polluted pond kinda boater. He's just not up The Challenge. Besides, Krause knows how to write. -- Skipper Faking this vacation sucks. |
I enjoy taking vacations off season, it is quieter and less expensive. When
my kids were young, we took them to Disney World the week after Labor Day. We walked directly onto every ride, without any waiting. We could get into every restaurant without a reservation, and it was cooler than the summer. I have taken many Caribbean Vacations in the summer, I think the thrill of a hurricane adds to the excitement. You can buy insurance cheaply to protect from extreme weather. The only problem with Hawaii off season is the rain, the weather is great year round. Now if I owned a 36' Lobster Boat, I know I would have to take my vacations off season. ; ) "P. Fritz" wrote in message ... "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote in message ... JohnH, In all of the groups I read, Harry is the only person who takes a vacation, and then posts in the morning, again in the afternoon, and then again in the evening. I would have no desire to post while on vacation, but my wife would be very upset if I found posting on rec.boats more enjoyable than having a vacation with her. Then again, if my wife (did I mention she is a young beautiful bride?) was married to someone like Harry, she might prefer if I was typing away in rec.boats than spending time with her. Did anyone notice that harry went to hawaii in the extreme offseason?.......looks like he is spending all his money on gas for his lobsta boat. "PocoLoco" wrote in message ... On Sat, 1 Oct 2005 18:16:03 -0400, "Mr. Starbuck" wrote: Harry, You posted a week's worth of activities, how did you get all that great stuff done in 4 days, especially since you have been posting on rec.boats through out each of the 4 days you have been in Hawaii. I am beginning to think this Harry Krause might be "Smithers". I think we all are being "Smithered" again. In three weeks we leave for our Disney Cruise. Please keep track of the number of posts and amount of time I spend trying to attract the attention of folks while I'm on vacation! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Harry.Krause" wrote:
You ain't Skipper. And you ain't Krause. He would NEVER go out West for real boating adventures, particularly into the real waters of the Pacific. Krazy Kerry Krause is strictly a local East Coast polluted pond kinda boater. He's just not up The Challenge. Besides, Krause knows how to write. -- Skipper Faking this vacation sucks. Anything, ANYTHING, to get away from those local polluted waters and pretend you're in the vast Pacific, huh? -- Skipper |
"Harry.Krause" wrote in message ... Faking this vacation sucks. Harry, it is ok, we understand your need to seek emotional support. |
This guy sounds more and more like the real Skipper. If he isn't, I am very
impressed that anyone would be able to spoof an IP from Derby Kansas. When Krause tried to "spoof" someone he screwed up because his IP and his sock puppet had the same IP. This guy, whoever he is, is much smarter than Krause. "Skipper" wrote in message ... Harry Krause wrote: You ain't Skipper. And you ain't Krause. He would NEVER go out West for real boating adventures, particularly into the real waters of the Pacific. Krazy Kerry Krause is strictly a local East Coast polluted pond kinda boater. He's just not up The Challenge. Besides, Krause knows how to write. -- Skipper |
"Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote:
This guy sounds more and more like the real Skipper...This guy, whoever he is, is much smarter than Krause. Indeed! -- Skipper |
"Skipper" wrote in message ... "Mr. Skip Starbuck" wrote: This guy sounds more and more like the real Skipper...This guy, whoever he is, is much smarter than Krause. Indeed! -- Skipper |
Skipper wrote: *JimH* wrote: Chuck took the gloves off several days ago when he came up with this ridiculous allegation. Let's see how long it takes Chuck to apologize to me for his whopper of a lie. You really need to have personal dealings with this blowhard to KNOW he's a charlatan. Must be his used car salesman training. Believe me, Chucky IS a charlatan. You will only get an apology AFTER the cows have come home. He KNOWS you are correct now. -- Skipper More evidence the sock puppet isn't the real Skipper. Here's a post from the real Skipper from back in 2001: Quote: Chuck Gould does not spam the NG. Your comments should go to spammers Lee and Low Blow. Chuck is an honest broker. Had I used him as my representative for a boat I'd seen before contacting him, he would have saved us a lot of grief by an unethical listing broker. I felt an obligation to the listing broker who had originally shown us the boat. That was a mistake. If you meet Chuck, I think you'd offer him a apology for your unfortunate condemnation. End quote: If this were the real Skipper, one would have to ask the following question: "Were you a lying sack of crap in 2001, or are you a lying sack of crap now?" Fortunately, it's a goofy sock puppet. Either that or the meds aren't working anymore. I can't believe Dave woujld undergo such a radical change in personality, and show up here gunning for people with no provocation whatsoever. Gotta be a sock puppet, a conclusion I continue to support based on an analysis of posting style. |
PocoLoco wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 19:47:48 -0700, wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 18:12:35 -0700, wrote: Stereotypes facilitate binary thinking because, with a stereotype, entire groups of people can be reduced to a single factor subject to a preexisting conclusion. When you reduce your question to two single factors, you have a binary proposition. Not really. Mathematically, in particular when building a truth table, any number of inputs always resolve to two states - 1 and 0 (yes/no, true/false). This is true for any number system actually no matter how it is expressed. But I digress. There are varying decision states in truth tables, but they still resolve to 1 or 0. In fact, if you combine varying states of NOT, OR, AND, NOR, NAND and EOR and resolve their states, you always end up with either 1 or 0. This is true for any given number of inputs. So, in effect, almost all decisions, if proper rules of logic are applied, are binary - yes/no, true/false. Can't be any other way. Only when probable results are considered. Many decisions require moral judgment and evaluation and in some cases will transcend the bounds of objectivity or logic. Example? Judgement and evaluation are part of the decision making process, but they are not the decision. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Moral evaluation and judgments influence the group of factors selected for consideration in a decision. |
On 2 Oct 2005 16:33:08 -0700, wrote:
PocoLoco wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 19:47:48 -0700, wrote: Shortwave Sportfishing wrote: On 30 Sep 2005 18:12:35 -0700, wrote: Stereotypes facilitate binary thinking because, with a stereotype, entire groups of people can be reduced to a single factor subject to a preexisting conclusion. When you reduce your question to two single factors, you have a binary proposition. Not really. Mathematically, in particular when building a truth table, any number of inputs always resolve to two states - 1 and 0 (yes/no, true/false). This is true for any number system actually no matter how it is expressed. But I digress. There are varying decision states in truth tables, but they still resolve to 1 or 0. In fact, if you combine varying states of NOT, OR, AND, NOR, NAND and EOR and resolve their states, you always end up with either 1 or 0. This is true for any given number of inputs. So, in effect, almost all decisions, if proper rules of logic are applied, are binary - yes/no, true/false. Can't be any other way. Only when probable results are considered. Many decisions require moral judgment and evaluation and in some cases will transcend the bounds of objectivity or logic. Example? Judgement and evaluation are part of the decision making process, but they are not the decision. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." Moral evaluation and judgments influence the group of factors selected for consideration in a decision. The factors selected for consideration or evaluation may be multiple. However, the final decision is a result of binary thinking -- either yes or no, this or that. -- John H. "Divide each difficulty into as many parts as is feasible and necessary to resolve it." Rene Descartes |
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