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Starbuck September 28th 05 07:24 PM

Doug,
I personally am not going to vote for Bush again.


"DSK" wrote in message
...
Starbuck wrote:
You are making an excellent argument for less Federal taxes.


Sure. President Bush himself often says "It's *your* money."
So why aren't taxes lower? Why isn't the Federal gummint shrinking? Why is
the national debt ballooning to levels that would have the IMF and World
Bank cutting off any 3rd world country's credit line?

What do you think is going to happen when oil is more expensive than ever,
and Uncle Sam's credit cards are maxed out, and the administration that's
broken promises, broken Iraq, left us less capable of protecting
ourselves, less capable of defending ourselves, and with fewer
constitutional rights... and not only that, *still* hasn't outlawed
abortion or gay marriage like it's 'base' wants...

DSK




DSK September 28th 05 07:27 PM

... Uncle Sam's credit cards are maxed out, and the administration
that's
broken promises, broken Iraq, left us less capable of protecting
ourselves, less capable of defending ourselves, and with fewer
constitutional rights... and not only that, *still* hasn't outlawed
abortion or gay marriage like it's 'base' wants...


Starbuck wrote:
Doug,
I personally am not going to vote for Bush again.


If you voted for him even once, then you were badly fooled. He revealed
his true colors long ago.

DSK


Bert Robbins September 28th 05 08:20 PM

I'll state the same, I will not vote for George W. Bush for elected office
ever again.

"Starbuck" wrote in message
...
Doug,
I personally am not going to vote for Bush again.


"DSK" wrote in message
...
Starbuck wrote:
You are making an excellent argument for less Federal taxes.


Sure. President Bush himself often says "It's *your* money."
So why aren't taxes lower? Why isn't the Federal gummint shrinking? Why
is the national debt ballooning to levels that would have the IMF and
World Bank cutting off any 3rd world country's credit line?

What do you think is going to happen when oil is more expensive than
ever, and Uncle Sam's credit cards are maxed out, and the administration
that's broken promises, broken Iraq, left us less capable of protecting
ourselves, less capable of defending ourselves, and with fewer
constitutional rights... and not only that, *still* hasn't outlawed
abortion or gay marriage like it's 'base' wants...

DSK






Bert Robbins September 28th 05 08:21 PM


"DSK" wrote in message
...
... Uncle Sam's credit cards are maxed out, and the administration

that's
broken promises, broken Iraq, left us less capable of protecting
ourselves, less capable of defending ourselves, and with fewer
constitutional rights... and not only that, *still* hasn't outlawed
abortion or gay marriage like it's 'base' wants...


Starbuck wrote:
Doug,
I personally am not going to vote for Bush again.


If you voted for him even once, then you were badly fooled. He revealed
his true colors long ago.


A truer statemen of any and all politicians has never been made.




PocoLoco September 28th 05 08:25 PM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:52:45 -0400, DSK wrote:



I've heard a great deal of complaint in recent days that the federal
government may not ha! ve allocated enough money to speed up the
upgrades to those levees. This does, however, raise the question of why
city and state residents were waiting around for the federal
government to send enough money to upgrade this, instead of paying for
it themselves.


Because it's under Federal jurisdiction and the Corps of Engineers won't
let them? Because the Federal gummint takes sucha huge chunk out of
everybody;s income in taxes that they don't have enough left in local
budgets to pay hundreds of millions for levee construction?


From where do you get the idea that the Corps was responsible for the levees
that failed? The ones that failed were not on intracoastal waterways.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco September 28th 05 08:25 PM

On 28 Sep 2005 10:55:48 -0700, "Tim" wrote:


PocoLoco wrote:
Tim, could you post the URL for this? It's great.

The truth *will* out!


Sure!

http://www.nationalreview.com/geragh...0509070826.asp


Thanks Tim.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco September 28th 05 08:56 PM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 08:52:45 -0400, DSK wrote:



I've heard a great deal of complaint in recent days that the federal
government may not ha! ve allocated enough money to speed up the
upgrades to those levees. This does, however, raise the question of why
city and state residents were waiting around for the federal
government to send enough money to upgrade this, instead of paying for
it themselves.


Because it's under Federal jurisdiction and the Corps of Engineers won't
let them? Because the Federal gummint takes sucha huge chunk out of
everybody;s income in taxes that they don't have enough left in local
budgets to pay hundreds of millions for levee construction?




.... you guys have managed to
pick leaders who give you the worst of both worlds - they're scandal
ridden and incompetent in a crisis.


Ahem. What about those buses left unused, less than a mile from the
Superdome?




We failed you? No, oh brilliant creator of Exit to Eden, you failed.
You might not think of it this way, but: Your leaders failed to upgrade
the levees. You elected a bunch of weepers and blame-shifters who lost
their head in a crisis.


Who exactly is playing "the blame game" here?

Is it the ones who cannot stand to have any criticism of Bush, Cheney,
or that matter, Halliburton, aired publicly?


.... I'd
appreciate a little less "you failed us" and a little more "we've
learned our lesson."



So would I.

Maybe President Bush's staff, who literally spent days *after* the
hurricane arguing among themselves to decide who would be the 'bearer of
bad news' and suggest to the President that he end his vacation early,
could answer some of these questions.

DSK


Doug, maybe you should read this before you start throwing stones at the Corps
of Engineers.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9342186/

Of course, it won't support your bs propaganda, but it *is* interesting.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

DSK September 28th 05 11:51 PM

... maybe you should read this before you start throwing stones at the Corps
of Engineers.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9342186/

Of course, it won't support your bs propaganda, but it *is* interesting.


** ** ** quote ** ** **
"They misspent the money," says Billy Nungesser, a former top Republican
official
** ** ** end quote ** ** **

Now, why is it no surprise to see this 100% partisan blaming going on?

DSK


PocoLoco September 29th 05 01:44 AM

On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 18:51:35 -0400, DSK wrote:

... maybe you should read this before you start throwing stones at the Corps
of Engineers.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9342186/

Of course, it won't support your bs propaganda, but it *is* interesting.


** ** ** quote ** ** **
"They misspent the money," says Billy Nungesser, a former top Republican
official
** ** ** end quote ** ** **

Now, why is it no surprise to see this 100% partisan blaming going on?

DSK


You quote one line from the article? Did you read the rest?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Tim September 29th 05 02:15 AM

Now, why is it no surprise to see this 100% partisan blaming going on?


So now partisanship is a sin?

Why is it that you alwaysheard the "Bi-partisan" was something un-holy?

ok.."partisan blaming going on?"

Guess thats what you call it when what ever the subject, from 9/11 to
New Orleans, and anything in between, "It's ALL Bush's fault"

Now THAT'S "partisan blaming!"



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