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NOYB September 27th 05 04:58 PM

OT--Ted Kennedy is correct
 
"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in which
those people who had cars and money got out and those people who were
impoverished died."

-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina



( Mary Jo Kopechne's family whole-heartedly agreed).



*JimH* September 27th 05 06:35 PM


wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:28:50 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:58:42 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in
which
those people who had cars and money got out and those people who were
impoverished died."

-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina



( Mary Jo Kopechne's family whole-heartedly agreed).



Isn't this the same hypocritical fat **** who wants everyone to scrap
their cars and ride mass transit while he flies around in his private
jet?



BTW I also extend this to Bush's "public jet". He can feel Rita
victim's pain in the white house press room.


I recall him being criticized for doing that and not flying over NO's to see
the damage first hand. Now that same side is criticizing him for flying
over NO's to see the damage first hand rather than staying put in the White
House.

You can't win with some folks.



[email protected] September 27th 05 08:27 PM


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 12:28:50 -0400, wrote:

On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 15:58:42 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:

"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in
which
those people who had cars and money got out and those people who were
impoverished died."

-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina



( Mary Jo Kopechne's family whole-heartedly agreed).



Isn't this the same hypocritical fat **** who wants everyone to scrap
their cars and ride mass transit while he flies around in his private
jet?



BTW I also extend this to Bush's "public jet". He can feel Rita
victim's pain in the white house press room.


I recall him being criticized for doing that and not flying over NO's to see
the damage first hand. Now that same side is criticizing him for flying
over NO's to see the damage first hand rather than staying put in the White
House.

You can't win with some folks.


Where did he say that? Or are you just blindly lumping everyone who
doesn't believe in BushCo's agenda in one pile?


Ed September 27th 05 09:44 PM

And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....



NOYB wrote:

"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in which
those people who had cars and money got out and those people who were
impoverished died."

-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina



( Mary Jo Kopechne's family whole-heartedly agreed).




NOYB September 27th 05 09:59 PM

Did everybody miss the irony in Ted Kennedy's statement? (Hint: Mary Jo
Kopechne)


"Ed" wrote in message
...
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to flood in
NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their busses to
evacuate over 90% of their population....



NOYB wrote:

"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in
which those people who had cars and money got out and those people who
were impoverished died."

-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina



( Mary Jo Kopechne's family whole-heartedly agreed).






Dry September 28th 05 12:02 AM

NOYB wrote:

"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in which
those people who had cars and money got out and those people who were
impoverished died."

-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina

( Mary Jo Kopechne's family whole-heartedly agreed).


Do not despair Ted will have his day in the supreme court. Deep Fried
hehe.

[email protected] September 28th 05 12:21 AM

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On 27 Sep 2005 12:27:18 -0700, wrote:



Where did he say that? Or are you just blindly lumping everyone who
doesn't believe in BushCo's agenda in one pile?





I dont't think he is "lumping everyone who doesn't believe in BuschCo's
agenda in one pile" But evidently you loke to do some lumping
yourself.......


[email protected] September 28th 05 12:23 AM

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Did everybody miss the irony in Ted Kennedy's statement? (Hint: Mary
Jo
Kopechne)



"Ed" wrote in message


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And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to flood in
NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their busses to
evacuate over 90% of their population....


NOYB wrote:



"What the American people have seen is this incredible disparity in
which those people who had cars and money got out and those people who
were impoverished died."



-- Ted Kennedy on Hurricane Katrina



( Mary Jo Kopechne's family whole-heartedly agreed).




I read it loud and clear!

funny...but sad.


[email protected] September 28th 05 01:06 AM


Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....


Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough) not
limited to any one political party.


Bert Robbins September 28th 05 01:13 AM


wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....


Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough) not
limited to any one political party.


But rabid critisizms of one inept party exlcusively is dishonest.



[email protected] September 28th 05 01:18 AM


Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....


Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough) not
limited to any one political party.


But rabid critisizms of one inept party exlcusively is dishonest.


As I am sure you consider yourself an honest man,
I will look forward to your impending criticisms of the right wing. :-)

There's one tough aspect about being politically "fair" when commenting
on some officials, such as the POTUS. There is only one party in office
at any given time. If you guys want to have the office, you need to be
willing to take the criticism that will be heaped on *any* occupant
thereof. Comes with the territory.


Starbuck September 28th 05 02:26 AM

Chuck,

I agree that if one is to be considered an honest man it is important that
you do not place blame based upon ones political affiliation. That was my
point concerning those who want to absolve the massive failures of the New
Orleans and Louisiana government, just because they were democratic.

Since I consider you to be an honest man, I must have missed your criticism
of the local and state governments. The only post I saw from you concerning
this matter was criticism Bush and his administration.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to
flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their
busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....

Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough) not
limited to any one political party.


But rabid critisizms of one inept party exlcusively is dishonest.


As I am sure you consider yourself an honest man,
I will look forward to your impending criticisms of the right wing. :-)

There's one tough aspect about being politically "fair" when commenting
on some officials, such as the POTUS. There is only one party in office
at any given time. If you guys want to have the office, you need to be
willing to take the criticism that will be heaped on *any* occupant
thereof. Comes with the territory.




Bert Robbins September 28th 05 03:03 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to
flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their
busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....

Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough) not
limited to any one political party.


But rabid critisizms of one inept party exlcusively is dishonest.


As I am sure you consider yourself an honest man,
I will look forward to your impending criticisms of the right wing. :-)


Bush should have vetoed some spending bills in his first year. It would have

There's one tough aspect about being politically "fair" when commenting
on some officials, such as the POTUS. There is only one party in office
at any given time. If you guys want to have the office, you need to be
willing to take the criticism that will be heaped on *any* occupant
thereof. Comes with the territory.


With experience your get wisdom. That wisdom is based upon your personal
experience and some of the things that Pres. Bush is adamant about issues I
now find myself in disagreement with.

So, I do disagree with some of my party's platform, however, I disagree with
most if not all of the other party's platform.



[email protected] September 28th 05 04:35 AM


Starbuck wrote:
Chuck,

I agree that if one is to be considered an honest man it is important that
you do not place blame based upon ones political affiliation. That was my
point concerning those who want to absolve the massive failures of the New
Orleans and Louisiana government, just because they were democratic.

Since I consider you to be an honest man, I must have missed your criticism
of the local and state governments. The only post I saw from you concerning
this matter was criticism Bush and his administration.


I'm not a Democrat, and I wouldn't have known whether the city or state
governments were primarily D or R. I believe that when all local
infrastructure is wiped out by an event the magnitude of Katrina, help
must be sent in from outside the area where there are still personnel,
systems, and supplies in place
to deal wtih the mess. The local govt. can't send in help from outside
its territory, and can't coordinate efforts between cities, counties,
or states with any authority. That is the role of the federal
government in a time of multi-jurisdictional disaster.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to
flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their
busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....

Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough) not
limited to any one political party.

But rabid critisizms of one inept party exlcusively is dishonest.


As I am sure you consider yourself an honest man,
I will look forward to your impending criticisms of the right wing. :-)

There's one tough aspect about being politically "fair" when commenting
on some officials, such as the POTUS. There is only one party in office
at any given time. If you guys want to have the office, you need to be
willing to take the criticism that will be heaped on *any* occupant
thereof. Comes with the territory.



PocoLoco September 28th 05 01:20 PM

On 27 Sep 2005 17:06:32 -0700, wrote:


Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....


Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough) not
limited to any one political party.


The Democrats in LA seemed to have a pretty tight grip on them!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco September 28th 05 01:23 PM

On 27 Sep 2005 20:35:24 -0700, wrote:


Starbuck wrote:
Chuck,

I agree that if one is to be considered an honest man it is important that
you do not place blame based upon ones political affiliation. That was my
point concerning those who want to absolve the massive failures of the New
Orleans and Louisiana government, just because they were democratic.

Since I consider you to be an honest man, I must have missed your criticism
of the local and state governments. The only post I saw from you concerning
this matter was criticism Bush and his administration.


I'm not a Democrat, and I wouldn't have known whether the city or state
governments were primarily D or R. I believe that when all local
infrastructure is wiped out by an event the magnitude of Katrina, help
must be sent in from outside the area where there are still personnel,
systems, and supplies in place
to deal wtih the mess. The local govt. can't send in help from outside
its territory, and can't coordinate efforts between cities, counties,
or states with any authority. That is the role of the federal
government in a time of multi-jurisdictional disaster.


Should the feds just go charging in? The 82d Airborne was ready to go. Other
National Guard units were ready to go.

Should the fedgov 'take charge' immediately (especially when the local
government is disfunctional)?

Haven't we had this same discussion before? You keep making the point that the
feds should do this and that, but never address the 'when' .
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

P Fritz September 28th 05 01:37 PM


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 27 Sep 2005 20:35:24 -0700, wrote:


Starbuck wrote:
Chuck,

I agree that if one is to be considered an honest man it is important

that
you do not place blame based upon ones political affiliation. That was

my
point concerning those who want to absolve the massive failures of the

New
Orleans and Louisiana government, just because they were democratic.

Since I consider you to be an honest man, I must have missed your

criticism
of the local and state governments. The only post I saw from you

concerning
this matter was criticism Bush and his administration.


I'm not a Democrat, and I wouldn't have known whether the city or state
governments were primarily D or R. I believe that when all local
infrastructure is wiped out by an event the magnitude of Katrina, help
must be sent in from outside the area where there are still personnel,
systems, and supplies in place
to deal wtih the mess. The local govt. can't send in help from outside
its territory, and can't coordinate efforts between cities, counties,
or states with any authority. That is the role of the federal
government in a time of multi-jurisdictional disaster.


Should the feds just go charging in? The 82d Airborne was ready to go.

Other
National Guard units were ready to go.

Should the fedgov 'take charge' immediately (especially when the local
government is disfunctional)?

Haven't we had this same discussion before? You keep making the point that

the
feds should do this and that, but never address the 'when' .


Chuckie may not be a "democrat": but he certainly is a far left leaning
liebral

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




Doug Kanter September 28th 05 01:54 PM


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 27 Sep 2005 20:35:24 -0700, wrote:


Starbuck wrote:
Chuck,

I agree that if one is to be considered an honest man it is important

that
you do not place blame based upon ones political affiliation. That
was

my
point concerning those who want to absolve the massive failures of the

New
Orleans and Louisiana government, just because they were democratic.

Since I consider you to be an honest man, I must have missed your

criticism
of the local and state governments. The only post I saw from you

concerning
this matter was criticism Bush and his administration.

I'm not a Democrat, and I wouldn't have known whether the city or state
governments were primarily D or R. I believe that when all local
infrastructure is wiped out by an event the magnitude of Katrina, help
must be sent in from outside the area where there are still personnel,
systems, and supplies in place
to deal wtih the mess. The local govt. can't send in help from outside
its territory, and can't coordinate efforts between cities, counties,
or states with any authority. That is the role of the federal
government in a time of multi-jurisdictional disaster.


Should the feds just go charging in? The 82d Airborne was ready to go.

Other
National Guard units were ready to go.

Should the fedgov 'take charge' immediately (especially when the local
government is disfunctional)?

Haven't we had this same discussion before? You keep making the point
that

the
feds should do this and that, but never address the 'when' .


Chuckie may not be a "democrat": but he certainly is a far left leaning
liebral


Aw shut the **** up, moron. Or, get yourself a new recording. The old one
was worn thin a year ago.



Starbuck September 28th 05 02:20 PM

Chuck,
If we do not learn from our mistakes, we are destined to repeat them. The
local and state governments failed their citizens and need to learn from
their mistakes.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Starbuck wrote:
Chuck,

I agree that if one is to be considered an honest man it is important
that
you do not place blame based upon ones political affiliation. That was
my
point concerning those who want to absolve the massive failures of the
New
Orleans and Louisiana government, just because they were democratic.

Since I consider you to be an honest man, I must have missed your
criticism
of the local and state governments. The only post I saw from you
concerning
this matter was criticism Bush and his administration.


I'm not a Democrat, and I wouldn't have known whether the city or state
governments were primarily D or R. I believe that when all local
infrastructure is wiped out by an event the magnitude of Katrina, help
must be sent in from outside the area where there are still personnel,
systems, and supplies in place
to deal wtih the mess. The local govt. can't send in help from outside
its territory, and can't coordinate efforts between cities, counties,
or states with any authority. That is the role of the federal
government in a time of multi-jurisdictional disaster.


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bert Robbins wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Ed wrote:
And the democratic local leadership left 100s of school busses to
flood
in NOLA while republican local leadership in Galveston used their
busses
to evacuate over 90% of their population....

Stupidity, ineptitude, and getting things FUBAR are (sadly enough)
not
limited to any one political party.

But rabid critisizms of one inept party exlcusively is dishonest.

As I am sure you consider yourself an honest man,
I will look forward to your impending criticisms of the right wing. :-)

There's one tough aspect about being politically "fair" when commenting
on some officials, such as the POTUS. There is only one party in office
at any given time. If you guys want to have the office, you need to be
willing to take the criticism that will be heaped on *any* occupant
thereof. Comes with the territory.





Bert Robbins September 28th 05 02:42 PM


"P Fritz" wrote in message
...

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 27 Sep 2005 20:35:24 -0700, wrote:


Starbuck wrote:
Chuck,

I agree that if one is to be considered an honest man it is important

that
you do not place blame based upon ones political affiliation. That
was

my
point concerning those who want to absolve the massive failures of the

New
Orleans and Louisiana government, just because they were democratic.

Since I consider you to be an honest man, I must have missed your

criticism
of the local and state governments. The only post I saw from you

concerning
this matter was criticism Bush and his administration.

I'm not a Democrat, and I wouldn't have known whether the city or state
governments were primarily D or R. I believe that when all local
infrastructure is wiped out by an event the magnitude of Katrina, help
must be sent in from outside the area where there are still personnel,
systems, and supplies in place
to deal wtih the mess. The local govt. can't send in help from outside
its territory, and can't coordinate efforts between cities, counties,
or states with any authority. That is the role of the federal
government in a time of multi-jurisdictional disaster.


Should the feds just go charging in? The 82d Airborne was ready to go.

Other
National Guard units were ready to go.

Should the fedgov 'take charge' immediately (especially when the local
government is disfunctional)?

Haven't we had this same discussion before? You keep making the point
that

the
feds should do this and that, but never address the 'when' .


Chuckie may not be a "democrat": but he certainly is a far left leaning
liebral


I have to correct you. Chuckie is a progressive, whatever that means.



Steve October 16th 05 01:45 AM

OT--Ted Kennedy is correct
 
No one is impoverished - some merely choose to sit on their ass, buy cheap
wine and lottery tickets with their money, confiscated from the minority
with standards, that still work.

Fatassted should have been plugging a
levee......WAITAMINUTE.......... THAT'S Gary Conditts job.......so solly.


Don't mess with natural selection -


Look think how much money people will save by not needing to embalm
Fatassted some day.


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