Don,
It is a lightweight racer/cruiser, it was not designed to take alot of
abuse. A 1967 cored hull boat, will have probably added quiet a bit of
water weight, and probably has some delaminating. I would look for spongy
areas around the stanchions and on the deck.

Since you are going to be racing PRHF, a 35 yr old boat will most likely
guarantee you last place in the fleet.

--

Starbuck

.... Diplomacy: the delicate weapon of the civilized warrior.
"Don White" wrote in message
...
Starbuck wrote:
Yes, I am.


Can you give me a good feel for the boat in 500 words or less?
...of course you can...will you?

I've had several Cal's and none of mine were cored hulls. I'm
nearly positive that the '67 c-24 is not either. There are two places
that they were built, Jensen mar Marine in Costa Mesa, CA and somewhere
on the east coast - I think up near Jersey. I've never seen a Cal
older then 1978 get a single blister either. In 1978-9 or there about,
Bill Lapworth sold Cal to O'Day and they in turn sold to Catalina.
Those are completely different boats and should be avoided.

The Cal's all have cored decks. They are a sandwich of glass and
balsa. I would check around the stanchions and around the port lights.
Also, many of the cal's have had their travelers placed across the
seat/step that is astern the companionway. The screws tend to stress on
those and let water in. You can feel a soft spot when you walk on the
seat if there is water damage. The portholes are a strong plastic but
by now they are old and will crack easily. The stern port lights are
pretty good but the windows fog. You can use a cleaner to get them
mostly clear.

The real problem with that boat is that you will need to add a lot of
stuff to get the creature comforts up to modern standards. Also, you
will probably need to change out an A-4 that most of them came with. If
it has been used very much the engine will cost more to keep up then
makes it worth having.

Don,
Did your buddy decide to buy this antique?


"Don White" wrote in message
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wrote:
In the meantime, anyone familiar with the Cal 34?


I owned, raced and cruised a Cal-34 for many years. It's an
interesting boat, very roomy for its size, and VERY fast in reaching
conditions off the wind. The original mast and chainplates are a weak
spot and need careful inspection and/or replacement. Mine was
dismasted off the New Jersey coast on a dark and stormy night in June
1987 due to an unknown rigging failure. The mast step (on deck) and
the mahogany supporting post are weak links. I went to a keel stepped
mast with new chainplates and a lot of reinforcement when I rerigged.

The boat is very weight sensitive and must be sailed light to be
competetive. Remove all gear and sails not required by your local
rules. A fair amount of mast rake is helpful also, especially in light
wind. Do a good job fairing and wet sanding the bottom. The keel is
none too efficient by today's standard and needs all the help it can
get. The boat likes lots of weight on the rail in a good wind and will
run circles around newer boats in those conditions. It's a great
cruising boat as well.

Check the engine and drive train carefully unless it has been recently
repowered. The original Atomic 4s are raw water cooled and eventually
rust out.

Thanks Wayne. That's the kind of info I need.

Starbuck wrote:
Don,
Did your buddy decide to buy this antique?



He was still pretty excited when he called on Friday and was talking
about driving over this week for a look see.

Don,
It might make a good fixer upper for cruising, but I would be very surprised
if it would be completive in PHRF racing. If he gets the boat and use it
for PHRF, you will have to let us know how you do.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Starbuck wrote:
Don,
Did your buddy decide to buy this antique?



He was still pretty excited when he called on Friday and was talking about
driving over this week for a look see.

Starbuck wrote:
Don,
It might make a good fixer upper for cruising, but I would be very surprised
if it would be completive in PHRF racing. If he gets the boat and use it
for PHRF, you will have to let us know how you do.


Our 'skipper' isn't a serious racer. He liked to do the Wednesday night
club races and the usual regattas, but that was about it.
He really wants the boat for afternoon social cruises. His usual MO
......leave the slip at 1300 or 1330 hrs, sail as far as he can until
about 1530 hrs and then turn around and head for home. If everyone on
board is having a good time with food & drink..good conversation etc,
he's happy. I tired of this after numerous trips and am more interested
in exploring.

Don,
If he is handy (or has friends who are handy) with tools, he will probably
get one hell of nice boat for cruising.

I knew someone who had a nice wide "pig" of a boat, he always came in last,
but he had a hammock swinging from the boom, and a sunpad on the foredeck,
both of them held beautiful girls in bikini's. (He used to go to the strip
clubs to find woman who wanted to spend the day on a boat.)

He always came in dead last, but no one had more fun on the water than he
did.


"Don White" wrote in message
...
Starbuck wrote:
Don,
It might make a good fixer upper for cruising, but I would be very
surprised if it would be completive in PHRF racing. If he gets the boat
and use it for PHRF, you will have to let us know how you do.


Our 'skipper' isn't a serious racer. He liked to do the Wednesday night
club races and the usual regattas, but that was about it.
He really wants the boat for afternoon social cruises. His usual MO
.....leave the slip at 1300 or 1330 hrs, sail as far as he can until about
1530 hrs and then turn around and head for home. If everyone on board is
having a good time with food & drink..good conversation etc, he's happy.
I tired of this after numerous trips and am more interested in exploring.

Starbuck wrote:
Don,
If he is handy (or has friends who are handy) with tools, he will probably
get one hell of nice boat for cruising.

I knew someone who had a nice wide "pig" of a boat, he always came in last,
but he had a hammock swinging from the boom, and a sunpad on the foredeck,
both of them held beautiful girls in bikini's. (He used to go to the strip
clubs to find woman who wanted to spend the day on a boat.)

He always came in dead last, but no one had more fun on the water than he
did.



That sounds like 'our skipper'. Most of the good looking blondes
drifted away over the years...but that's a good tip about the strip
clubs. Now, how would I keep my wife from finding out if we try the same?

Don,
Don't tell her you are not going to the strip clubs, you are interviewing
potential crew.

"Don White" wrote in message
...
Starbuck wrote:
Don,
If he is handy (or has friends who are handy) with tools, he will
probably get one hell of nice boat for cruising.

I knew someone who had a nice wide "pig" of a boat, he always came in
last, but he had a hammock swinging from the boom, and a sunpad on the
foredeck, both of them held beautiful girls in bikini's. (He used to go
to the strip clubs to find woman who wanted to spend the day on a boat.)

He always came in dead last, but no one had more fun on the water than he
did.



That sounds like 'our skipper'. Most of the good looking blondes drifted
away over the years...but that's a good tip about the strip clubs. Now,
how would I keep my wife from finding out if we try the same?

On Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:03:04 -0400, "Starbuck"
wrote:



He always came in dead last, but no one had more fun on the water than he
did.

And more power to him, as long as he doesn't make navigational errors
by steering for the pink cardinal buoys.

That would be unseamanlike.

R.