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[email protected] September 20th 05 03:57 PM

OT Corruption in BushCo
 
The lying, cheating, stealing thugs of BushCo are still at it:

CORRUPTION
Top Bush Official Arrested in Corruption Probe

David Safavian, who until Friday headed the "obscure but extremely
important" federal procurement office in the White House Office of
Management and Budget (OMB), was arrested yesterday, accused by federal
agents of "lying and obstructing a criminal investigation into
Republican lobbyist Jack Abramoff's dealings with the federal
government." In his position at the OMB, Safavian set purchasing policy
for the entire government, and "had recently been working on developing
contracting policies for the multibillion-dollar relief effort after
Hurricane Katrina." His arrest -- the "first criminal complaint filed
against a government official" in the ongoing Abramoff probe -- exposes
a thicket of corruption involving Abramoff, leaders of the right-wing
movement like Grover Norquist and Ralph Reed, and public officials at
the very highest levels of government, including House Majority Leader
Tom DeLay (R-TX).

LYING ABOUT ETHICS TO SEND KICK-BACKS TO ABRAMOFF: The complaint filed
by the FBI accuses Safavian of making "repeated false statements to
government officials and investigators" about a golf trip with Abramoff
to Scotland in 2002, when Safavian was chief of staff at the Bush
administration's General Services Administration. In that position,
"ethics rules flatly prohibited the receipt of a gift from any person
seeking an official action by the agency," and before the golf trip,
Safavian assured GSA ethics officers in writing that Abramoff "has no
business before GSA." In truth, Safavian was already actively assisting
Abramoff "acquire control of two federally managed properties in the
Washington area;" a 40-acre plot that became the campus for a Hebrew
school Abramoff founded, and office space that Abramoff was seeking to
lease for his Indian tribal clients. Indeed, on the very same day
Safavian sent the letter to the GSA ethics office, "he sent an e-mail
to Abramoff from his home computer, advising him how to 'lay out a case
for this lease.'" The day before he departed to Scotland, Safavian
"arranged a meeting for Abramoff's wife and business partner with
officials at GSA" to tour of one of the properties -- a tour that
Abramoff suggested after being shown a map of the space in Safavian's
office. And in an email to a colleague, Abramoff himself explained why
he'd invited Safavian on the golfing trip: "Total business angle. He is
new (chief of staff) of GSA."

TRAINED BY THE MASTER: "Like Abramoff, Safavian is a veteran Washington
player," the Washington Post reports. The two worked closely together
at the lobbying firm Preston, Gates & Ellis, where "Abramoff schooled
Safavian" and where they "jointly represented a broad swath of gambling
interests." The two also held Shaw Environmental and Infrastructure
(part of the Shaw Group) as a client, which is now represented by
former FEMA chief and 2000 Bush-Cheney campaign manager Joe Allbaugh.
(The Securities and Exchange Committee has launched an investigation
into the Shaw Group for possible accounting irregularities, Newsweek
reported this weekend. Shaw scored a $100 million no-bid Katrina
contract "before the flood waters receded.") Safavian moved on to found
Janus Merritt, a top-end lobbying firm, with "Abramoff's college
roommate and conservative maverick Grover Norquist."

THE BUSH CONNECTION: Some of Jack Abramoff's most heinous work was on
behalf of the government of the Northern Mariana Islands, a U.S.
territory between Hawaii and the Philippines. Human "brokers" bring
thousands there to work as sex slaves and in cramped sweatshop garment
factories where clothes (complete with "Made in USA" tag) are made for
several brand names. Working with Safavian, Abramoff lobbied various
public officials, particularly Rep. Tom DeLay, to prevent any
crack-down on the worker abuse on the island. In January 2001, when
President Bush entered office, Abramoff wrote island officials, "Our
standing with the new administration promises to be solid as several
friends of the [Marianas] will soon be taking high-ranking positions in
the Administration." He was right. Two members of Abramoff's lobbying
team subsequently received positions in the Bush White House, one as
assistant secretary of labor, and another -- David Safavian -- as chief
of staff to the General Services Administration. In the first 10 months
of Bush's presidency, Abramoff and his lobbying team "logged nearly 200
contacts with the new administration." They pressed for "friendly
hires" and lax labor laws with officials as high up as Attorney General
John Ashcroft and policy advisers in Vice President Dick Cheney's
office, and it apparently worked: the islands "fended off proposals in
2001 to extend the U.S. minimum wage to island workers and gained at
least $2 million more in federal aid from the administration." By
mid-2003, Abramoff "had raised at least $100,000 for Mr. Bush's
re-election campaign, becoming one of Bush's famed 'pioneers.'"

THE MIKE BROWN OF CONTRACT PROCUREMENT: Two weeks after Safavian was
confirmed in June 2004, Steven Kelman, the federal procurement
administrator under President Clinton, told Government Executive
magazine that Safavian "doesn't have a lot of background in
procurement, so the hope is that he's a good learner." Allan Burman,
another former procurement chief, agreed: "I don't know where David
Safavian comes out on [acquisition reform]." Even Angela Styles, who
held the top acquisition post in the Bush administration until
September 2003, said Safavian had "no apparent philosophy" on
procurement issues.

ALL IN THE FAMILY: Safavian's arrest also places a spotlight on his
wife, Jennifer Safavian, who works for Rep. Tom Davis (R-VA). Davis
chairs the House Government Reform Committee, and Jennifer Safavian
serves as chief counsel for oversight and investigations (she
reportedly "has signed a recusal agreement that will keep her from
looking into OMB and procurement matters"). Nevertheless, according to
Hill columnist Josh Marshall, Rep. Davis pushed through several
"made-to-order crony-empowerment (a.k.a., contracting deregulation and
streamlining) provisions" in the Katrina emergency funding bills. When
David Safavian was first nominated, the Federal Times warned that if he
were confirmed, "it would be difficult to believe - if only because of
appearances - that he or his wife's committee is acting independently
of the other as each tends to the integrity of the federal procurement
process."


*JimH* September 20th 05 04:00 PM

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?



PocoLoco September 20th 05 04:37 PM

On 20 Sep 2005 07:57:12 -0700, posted another cut'n'paste to
cover up the lie he told about his motorcycle ownership:

The lying, cheating, stealing thugs of BushCo are still at it:


Are you included in that group? You *do* have the requisite skills.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] September 20th 05 05:01 PM


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


*JimH* September 20th 05 05:02 PM


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*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell


Lets see it. Those are nice boats.



Can you post a pic?
Yes.


Will you? I doubt it.



[email protected] September 20th 05 05:03 PM


PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 07:57:12 -0700, posted another cut'n'paste to
cover up the lie he told about his motorcycle ownership:

The lying, cheating, stealing thugs of BushCo are still at it:


Are you included in that group? You *do* have the requisite skills.
--
John H

It must be hell to be an over the hill drunken lout like you, John.
Have you apologized for your mistake yet, or aren't you man enough?


*JimH* September 20th 05 05:05 PM


wrote in message
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*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell


What year and size is your Chap Kevin?



[email protected] September 20th 05 05:22 PM


Red Cloud=A9 wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud


I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME. He's not bright enough to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so, he
insists on calling me Kevin.


*JimH* September 20th 05 05:32 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...

Red Cloudİ wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!


rusty redcloud


I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME.


I posted a question for Kevin. I even went to the bother of changing the
subject title so you could see it was a question for Kevin. Yet you
responded.

So how is life Kevin?

He's not bright enough


First you insullt Rusty, then me. In fact, most of your posts contain
insults to those you are responding to. Do you notice a patern here?

...............to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so, he
insists on calling me Kevin.



Makes sense Kevin.....using the email address of Kevin Noble, having a
similar background as Kevin Noble and livng in the same city as Kevin
Noble.........and yet you are not Kevin Noble.

Indeed.



Harry.Krause September 20th 05 05:33 PM

In article , Red Cloudİ says...

On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud

Hey Robert Broady, any suggestions on how to ease the sexual side effects of my
paxil meds?


PocoLoco September 20th 05 05:35 PM

On Tue, 20 Sep 2005 16:09:30 GMT, Red Cloudİ wrote:

On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud


Whoops!

Maybe he got a little too much wind on the brain while riding on his Tinkerbell
Desmo!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco September 20th 05 05:36 PM

On 20 Sep 2005 09:22:51 -0700, wrote:


Red Cloudİ wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700,
wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?

Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud


I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME. He's not bright enough to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so, he
insists on calling me Kevin.


Are you going by 'ME' now?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco September 20th 05 05:38 PM

On 20 Sep 2005 09:03:14 -0700, wrote:


PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 07:57:12 -0700,
posted another cut'n'paste to
cover up the lie he told about his motorcycle ownership:

The lying, cheating, stealing thugs of BushCo are still at it:


Are you included in that group? You *do* have the requisite skills.
--
John H

It must be hell to be an over the hill drunken lout like you, John.
Have you apologized for your mistake yet, or aren't you man enough?


Show me the mistake. If I made one, I'll apologize. Making an apology is not
something that strips you of your manhood.

Although, in my experience it is very difficult for adolescents to apologize
when they're wrong.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Don White September 20th 05 05:53 PM

Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?



These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!

Starbuck September 20th 05 07:11 PM

Kevin,
Why do you bother to use someone's else's Yahoo and Gmail account?

--

Starbuck

"Hegel was right when he said that we learn from history that man can never
learn anything from history." - George Bernard Shaw (1856-1950), Irish-born
British playwright
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You can find SigChanger at: http://www.phranc.nl/
wrote in message
ups.com...

Red Cloudİ wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?


Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud


I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME. He's not bright enough to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so, he
insists on calling me Kevin.



[email protected] September 20th 05 07:11 PM


Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?



These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!


Oh, yeah, if you notice, he didn't use that tripe when he didn't have a
boat. One can only wonder if he really does now. Seems like he was
awfully interested in letting everyone know that he was looking at one,
posting pictures, asking questions, etc. Usually those are the ones who
really don't have one!


[email protected] September 20th 05 07:14 PM


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Red Cloud=A9 wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?

Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.


And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!


rusty redcloud


I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME.


I posted a question for Kevin. I even went to the bother of changing the
subject title so you could see it was a question for Kevin. Yet you
responded.

So how is life Kevin?

He's not bright enough


First you insullt Rusty, then me. In fact, most of your posts contain
insults to those you are responding to. Do you notice a patern here?

...............to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so, he
insists on calling me Kevin.



Makes sense Kevin.....using the email address of Kevin Noble, having a
similar background as Kevin Noble and livng in the same city as Kevin
Noble.........and yet you are not Kevin Noble.

Indeed.


I don't live in the same "city" as Kevin Noble. YOU are just too
****ing dumb to figure out how someone can use someone else's email
address. Unbelievable, because I can think of SEVERAL ways to do just
that. Oh, and background? YOU only know what I've told you, dip****.
That could be true and accurate, or not, or a combination. Now if you
think that's bad, then, tell everyone here your complete background.
Where do you work? What do you do there? Phone number?


[email protected] September 20th 05 07:17 PM


PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:03:14 -0700, wrote:


PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 07:57:12 -0700,
posted another cut'n'paste to
cover up the lie he told about his motorcycle ownership:

The lying, cheating, stealing thugs of BushCo are still at it:

Are you included in that group? You *do* have the requisite skills.
--
John H

It must be hell to be an over the hill drunken lout like you, John.
Have you apologized for your mistake yet, or aren't you man enough?


Show me the mistake. If I made one, I'll apologize. Making an apology is not
something that strips you of your manhood.

Although, in my experience it is very difficult for adolescents to apologize
when they're wrong.


Then apologize.

Your mistake is that you asked how my Guzzi is running. That would
imply that I still own one, I've never, ever stated anything like that.
IF you read back, you'll see that I definitely said USED TO OWN. I'm
waiting for your apology. Maybe when you sober up?


Starbuck September 20th 05 07:26 PM

Kevin,
Are you saying that you have lied in rec.boats? Oh the
humanity........................

--

Starbuck

It is those who concentrates on but one thing at a time who advance in this
world. The great man or woman is the one who never steps outside his or her
specialty or foolishly dissipates his or her individuality. - Mandino, Og
I don't live in the same "city" as Kevin Noble. YOU are just too
****ing dumb to figure out how someone can use someone else's email
address. Unbelievable, because I can think of SEVERAL ways to do just
that. Oh, and background? YOU only know what I've told you, dip****.
That could be true and accurate, or not, or a combination. Now if you
think that's bad, then, tell everyone here your complete background.
Where do you work? What do you do there? Phone number?



PocoLoco September 20th 05 07:48 PM

On 20 Sep 2005 11:14:50 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Red Cloudİ wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700,
wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?

Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.

And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud


I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME.


I posted a question for Kevin. I even went to the bother of changing the
subject title so you could see it was a question for Kevin. Yet you
responded.

So how is life Kevin?

He's not bright enough


First you insullt Rusty, then me. In fact, most of your posts contain
insults to those you are responding to. Do you notice a patern here?

...............to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so, he
insists on calling me Kevin.



Makes sense Kevin.....using the email address of Kevin Noble, having a
similar background as Kevin Noble and livng in the same city as Kevin
Noble.........and yet you are not Kevin Noble.

Indeed.


I don't live in the same "city" as Kevin Noble. YOU are just too
****ing dumb to figure out how someone can use someone else's email
address. Unbelievable, because I can think of SEVERAL ways to do just
that. Oh, and background? YOU only know what I've told you, dip****.
That could be true and accurate, or not, or a combination. Now if you
think that's bad, then, tell everyone here your complete background.
Where do you work? What do you do there? Phone number?


Well, it's for sure the part of your background about the Moto Guzzi 'Desmo'
ownership wasn't accurate!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

P Fritz September 20th 05 07:51 PM


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 20 Sep 2005 11:14:50 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Red Cloudİ wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700,
wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?

Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.

And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud

I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME.

I posted a question for Kevin. I even went to the bother of changing

the
subject title so you could see it was a question for Kevin. Yet you
responded.

So how is life Kevin?

He's not bright enough

First you insullt Rusty, then me. In fact, most of your posts contain
insults to those you are responding to. Do you notice a patern here?

...............to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so,

he
insists on calling me Kevin.


Makes sense Kevin.....using the email address of Kevin Noble, having a
similar background as Kevin Noble and livng in the same city as Kevin
Noble.........and yet you are not Kevin Noble.

Indeed.


I don't live in the same "city" as Kevin Noble. YOU are just too
****ing dumb to figure out how someone can use someone else's email
address. Unbelievable, because I can think of SEVERAL ways to do just
that. Oh, and background? YOU only know what I've told you, dip****.
That could be true and accurate, or not, or a combination. Now if you
think that's bad, then, tell everyone here your complete background.
Where do you work? What do you do there? Phone number?


Well, it's for sure the part of your background about the Moto Guzzi

'Desmo'
ownership wasn't accurate!


Either way, he has now admitted to being a liar.

And he wonders why he is still "King of the NG idiots"

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




PocoLoco September 20th 05 07:57 PM

On 20 Sep 2005 11:17:45 -0700, wrote:


PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:03:14 -0700,
wrote:


PocoLoco wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 07:57:12 -0700,
posted another cut'n'paste to
cover up the lie he told about his motorcycle ownership:

The lying, cheating, stealing thugs of BushCo are still at it:

Are you included in that group? You *do* have the requisite skills.
--
John H

It must be hell to be an over the hill drunken lout like you, John.
Have you apologized for your mistake yet, or aren't you man enough?


Show me the mistake. If I made one, I'll apologize. Making an apology is not
something that strips you of your manhood.

Although, in my experience it is very difficult for adolescents to apologize
when they're wrong.


Then apologize.

Your mistake is that you asked how my Guzzi is running. That would
imply that I still own one, I've never, ever stated anything like that.
IF you read back, you'll see that I definitely said USED TO OWN. I'm
waiting for your apology. Maybe when you sober up?


Read the posts. I've already admitted that mistake. Now, are you willing to
admit you lied about owning a Moto Guzzi 'Desmo' in the first place?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

*JimH* September 20th 05 09:08 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!


Oh, yeah, if you notice, he didn't use that tripe when he didn't have a
boat. One can only wonder if he really does now. Seems like he was
awfully interested in letting everyone know that he was looking at one,
posting pictures, asking questions, etc. Usually those are the ones who
really don't have one!


So let me get this straight....the folks posting pictures of their boats are
the ones who really don't have one. Brilliant Kevin. Just brilliant.



[email protected] September 20th 05 09:20 PM


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!


Oh, yeah, if you notice, he didn't use that tripe when he didn't have a
boat. One can only wonder if he really does now. Seems like he was
awfully interested in letting everyone know that he was looking at one,
posting pictures, asking questions, etc. Usually those are the ones who
really don't have one!


So let me get this straight....the folks posting pictures of their boats are
the ones who really don't have one. Brilliant Kevin. Just brilliant.


From: The Hertvik's
Posted At: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:27 PM
Posted To: spywareworkshop2004
Conversation: Spyware Workshop - Comment
Subject: Spyware Workshop - Comment
I am fed up with having to delete spyware off my wife's, my daughter's,
my son's and my computers. I
have to run adaware and spybot almost on a daily basis.
Spyware is intrusive and slows down computers all while the user has no
option on when and by whom it
is installed.
I hope you take the appropriate steps to do away with this problem.
Sincerely
Jim Hertvik

Bwaaaahaaaa!!! Whiner!


*JimH* September 20th 05 10:10 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a
lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!

Oh, yeah, if you notice, he didn't use that tripe when he didn't have a
boat. One can only wonder if he really does now. Seems like he was
awfully interested in letting everyone know that he was looking at one,
posting pictures, asking questions, etc. Usually those are the ones who
really don't have one!


So let me get this straight....the folks posting pictures of their boats
are
the ones who really don't have one. Brilliant Kevin. Just brilliant.


From: The Hertvik's
Posted At: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:27 PM
Posted To: spywareworkshop2004
Conversation: Spyware Workshop - Comment
Subject: Spyware Workshop - Comment
I am fed up with having to delete spyware off my wife's, my daughter's,
my son's and my computers. I
have to run adaware and spybot almost on a daily basis.
Spyware is intrusive and slows down computers all while the user has no
option on when and by whom it
is installed.
I hope you take the appropriate steps to do away with this problem.
Sincerely
Jim Hertvik

Bwaaaahaaaa!!! Whiner!


So you are now into internet stalking me and my family like Krause did.

Why am I not surprised?




*JimH* September 20th 05 10:36 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!


Still following me around with your nose up my butt Donny?

Nothing in this thread involved you (or Krause for that matter) yet you have
to come in and make a snotty little remark involving me.

Why am I not surprised Donny?



Don White September 20th 05 11:00 PM

*JimH* wrote:

Still following me around with your nose up my butt Donny?

Nothing in this thread involved you (or Krause for that matter) yet you have
to come in and make a snotty little remark involving me.

Why am I not surprised Donny?


Sorry...but with your antics and inconsistencies day in and out, you
invite 'challenges'.
Tighten up your ship and no one wil bother you.

PocoLoco September 21st 05 12:11 PM

On 20 Sep 2005 13:20:33 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!

Oh, yeah, if you notice, he didn't use that tripe when he didn't have a
boat. One can only wonder if he really does now. Seems like he was
awfully interested in letting everyone know that he was looking at one,
posting pictures, asking questions, etc. Usually those are the ones who
really don't have one!


So let me get this straight....the folks posting pictures of their boats are
the ones who really don't have one. Brilliant Kevin. Just brilliant.


From: The Hertvik's
Posted At: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:27 PM
Posted To: spywareworkshop2004
Conversation: Spyware Workshop - Comment
Subject: Spyware Workshop - Comment
I am fed up with having to delete spyware off my wife's, my daughter's,
my son's and my computers. I
have to run adaware and spybot almost on a daily basis.
Spyware is intrusive and slows down computers all while the user has no
option on when and by whom it
is installed.
I hope you take the appropriate steps to do away with this problem.
Sincerely
Jim Hertvik

Bwaaaahaaaa!!! Whiner!


Childish stalking??

Wouldn't you rather be on a 'Desmo'?

Hee, hee.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

[email protected] September 21st 05 02:31 PM


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a
lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!

Oh, yeah, if you notice, he didn't use that tripe when he didn't have a
boat. One can only wonder if he really does now. Seems like he was
awfully interested in letting everyone know that he was looking at one,
posting pictures, asking questions, etc. Usually those are the ones who
really don't have one!


So let me get this straight....the folks posting pictures of their boats
are
the ones who really don't have one. Brilliant Kevin. Just brilliant.


From: The Hertvik's
Posted At: Monday, April 05, 2004 3:27 PM
Posted To: spywareworkshop2004
Conversation: Spyware Workshop - Comment
Subject: Spyware Workshop - Comment
I am fed up with having to delete spyware off my wife's, my daughter's,
my son's and my computers. I
have to run adaware and spybot almost on a daily basis.
Spyware is intrusive and slows down computers all while the user has no
option on when and by whom it
is installed.
I hope you take the appropriate steps to do away with this problem.
Sincerely
Jim Hertvik

Bwaaaahaaaa!!! Whiner!


So you are now into internet stalking me and my family like Krause did.

Why am I not surprised?


This from someone who stalks me to every single post I make here, and
every single post I reply to.


[email protected] September 21st 05 02:34 PM


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!


Still following me around with your nose up my butt Donny?

Nothing in this thread involved you (or Krause for that matter) yet you have
to come in and make a snotty little remark involving me.


Jim, many, many threads that I've posted, or replied to had nothing in
it involving you, but you come in and make a snotty little remark
involving me, as does your nose-to-ass buddies JohnH, and Fritz. Why is
it okay for you, and not okay for Don, or Harry? Also, why did you
blatantly lie about not posting off topic, not calling people petty,
childish names, not being mean spirited, etc.?


Don White September 21st 05 03:55 PM

wrote:


Jim, many, many threads that I've posted, or replied to had nothing in
it involving you, but you come in and make a snotty little remark
involving me, as does your nose-to-ass buddies JohnH, and Fritz. Why is
it okay for you, and not okay for Don, or Harry? Also, why did you
blatantly lie about not posting off topic, not calling people petty,
childish names, not being mean spirited, etc.?


I'd also like to hear JimH's reply to the first question....and don't
give me that 'do as Ii say, not as I do' routine.

*JimH* September 21st 05 06:01 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a
lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!


Still following me around with your nose up my butt Donny?

Nothing in this thread involved you (or Krause for that matter) yet you
have
to come in and make a snotty little remark involving me.


Jim, many, many threads that I've posted, or replied to had nothing in
it involving you, but you come in and make a snotty little remark
involving me, as does your nose-to-ass buddies JohnH, and Fritz. Why is
it okay for you, and not okay for Don, or Harry? Also, why did you
blatantly lie about not posting off topic, not calling people petty,
childish names, not being mean spirited, etc.?


Did I blatantly lie about that Kevin? If I did, I was wrong as you
obviously do constantly post off topic, call people petty, childish names
and are quite mean spirited.

Sorry for the confusion....my bad. ;-)



[email protected] September 21st 05 06:18 PM

Nor was his degree from U of Penn or Georgia Tech.

It does appear that both Basskisser and Kevin Noble both had a sister die of
cancer in the Naples area.

I guess that is why Kevin Noble is nice enough to let bassy use his email.
I still can['t figure out why Bassy would want to use someone else's email.



"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 20 Sep 2005 11:14:50 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Red Cloudİ wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700,
wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?

Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.

And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud

I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME.

I posted a question for Kevin. I even went to the bother of changing
the
subject title so you could see it was a question for Kevin. Yet you
responded.

So how is life Kevin?

He's not bright enough

First you insullt Rusty, then me. In fact, most of your posts contain
insults to those you are responding to. Do you notice a patern here?

...............to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so, he
insists on calling me Kevin.


Makes sense Kevin.....using the email address of Kevin Noble, having a
similar background as Kevin Noble and livng in the same city as Kevin
Noble.........and yet you are not Kevin Noble.

Indeed.


I don't live in the same "city" as Kevin Noble. YOU are just too
****ing dumb to figure out how someone can use someone else's email
address. Unbelievable, because I can think of SEVERAL ways to do just
that. Oh, and background? YOU only know what I've told you, dip****.
That could be true and accurate, or not, or a combination. Now if you
think that's bad, then, tell everyone here your complete background.
Where do you work? What do you do there? Phone number?


Well, it's for sure the part of your background about the Moto Guzzi
'Desmo'
ownership wasn't accurate!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




P Fritz September 21st 05 06:31 PM


" wrote in message
...
Nor was his degree from U of Penn or Georgia Tech.

It does appear that both Basskisser and Kevin Noble both had a sister die

of
cancer in the Naples area.

I guess that is why Kevin Noble is nice enough to let bassy use his email.
I still can['t figure out why Bassy would want to use someone else's

email.

Kevin is just "stuck on stupid"

And then he wonders why he is the "King of the NG idiots"




"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 20 Sep 2005 11:14:50 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
ups.com...

Red Cloudİ wrote:
On 20 Sep 2005 09:01:22 -0700,
wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
What kind of boat do you have Kevin?

Chaparell

Can you post a pic?
Yes.

And all this time you've been swearing up and down that you are not
KEVIN!

rusty redcloud

I guess you just aren't bright enough to understand the dynamics of
posting, huh? You see, IF you look at who he REPLIED to, you'd see it
was ME.

I posted a question for Kevin. I even went to the bother of changing
the
subject title so you could see it was a question for Kevin. Yet you
responded.

So how is life Kevin?

He's not bright enough

First you insullt Rusty, then me. In fact, most of your posts contain
insults to those you are responding to. Do you notice a patern here?

...............to figure out how I can post using
someone else's Yahoo address, and that frustrates him to no end, so,

he
insists on calling me Kevin.


Makes sense Kevin.....using the email address of Kevin Noble, having a
similar background as Kevin Noble and livng in the same city as Kevin
Noble.........and yet you are not Kevin Noble.

Indeed.

I don't live in the same "city" as Kevin Noble. YOU are just too
****ing dumb to figure out how someone can use someone else's email
address. Unbelievable, because I can think of SEVERAL ways to do just
that. Oh, and background? YOU only know what I've told you, dip****.
That could be true and accurate, or not, or a combination. Now if you
think that's bad, then, tell everyone here your complete background.
Where do you work? What do you do there? Phone number?


Well, it's for sure the part of your background about the Moto Guzzi
'Desmo'
ownership wasn't accurate!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."






PocoLoco September 21st 05 10:13 PM

On 21 Sep 2005 06:34:44 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!


Still following me around with your nose up my butt Donny?

Nothing in this thread involved you (or Krause for that matter) yet you have
to come in and make a snotty little remark involving me.


Jim, many, many threads that I've posted, or replied to had nothing in
it involving you, but you come in and make a snotty little remark
involving me, as does your nose-to-ass buddies JohnH, and Fritz. Why is
it okay for you, and not okay for Don, or Harry? Also, why did you
blatantly lie about not posting off topic, not calling people petty,
childish names, not being mean spirited, etc.?


Why are you questioning *anyone's* integrity? You should do a Google search for
yours first.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

P Fritz September 22nd 05 03:42 PM


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On 21 Sep 2005 06:34:44 -0700, wrote:


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:

What kind of boat do you have Kevin? Can you post a pic?


These queries from formerly boatless Hertvik demonstrate what a

lamer
he
really is.


I think he was almost more bearable when he didn't own a boat.
Those reformed characters can be a pain!

Still following me around with your nose up my butt Donny?

Nothing in this thread involved you (or Krause for that matter) yet you

have
to come in and make a snotty little remark involving me.


Jim, many, many threads that I've posted, or replied to had nothing in
it involving you, but you come in and make a snotty little remark
involving me, as does your nose-to-ass buddies JohnH, and Fritz. Why is
it okay for you, and not okay for Don, or Harry? Also, why did you
blatantly lie about not posting off topic, not calling people petty,
childish names, not being mean spirited, etc.?


Why are you questioning *anyone's* integrity? You should do a Google

search for
yours first.


Why bother....it would come up wiyth zero hits :-)


--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."





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