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OT- I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President
I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President
By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- |
NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) |
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 20:08:30 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The feds are doing a lot of work. But, the press is going to continue eating them alive. Today's Washington Post is replete with anecdotal accounts of the feds inaction. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...referrer=email One of the better one's is: ************************************* Mary Joseph, 63, a custodian from Violet, La., in a new apartment in Northland Woods off Beltway 8, is 17 miles from downtown: "We spend $30 for gas every few days, and we don't know where we are going." ************************************* Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. This is my favorite: ************************************** In Mississippi, people waiting for promised housing in the form of mobile homes or trailers found themselves in a Catch-22 situation: Even as local officials said they were waiting for FEMA to provide the shelters, officials at the federal agency said they were waiting for local officials to provide the right locations. ************************************* And, of course, this is Bush's fault because he should just take a chunk of land with no facilities and dump the shelter's there. The absolute best was Tim Russert this morning who was repeating that FEMA should have prepositioned all these shelters and supplies. Imagine the bureaucracy and resources we could pay for if we had all these huge storage sites within a hundred miles of any place in the USA that 'could' experience a natural/man-made disaster! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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PocoLoco wrote:
The feds are doing a lot of work. But, the press is going to continue eating them alive. Today's Washington Post is replete with anecdotal accounts of the feds inaction. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...referrer=email One of the better one's is: ************************************* Mary Joseph, 63, a custodian from Violet, La., in a new apartment in Northland Woods off Beltway 8, is 17 miles from downtown: "We spend $30 for gas every few days, and we don't know where we are going." ************************************* Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. This is my favorite: ************************************** In Mississippi, people waiting for promised housing in the form of mobile homes or trailers found themselves in a Catch-22 situation: Even as local officials said they were waiting for FEMA to provide the shelters, officials at the federal agency said they were waiting for local officials to provide the right locations. ************************************* And, of course, this is Bush's fault because he should just take a chunk of land with no facilities and dump the shelter's there. The absolute best was Tim Russert this morning who was repeating that FEMA should have prepositioned all these shelters and supplies. Imagine the bureaucracy and resources we could pay for if we had all these huge storage sites within a hundred miles of any place in the USA that 'could' experience a natural/man-made disaster! What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. If they can arrange to camp tens of thousands of troops in a foreign land...why not the same amount of displaced citizens right in America? It should be easier, because with no one shooting at them the old fart officers could actually get close to the action instead of hiding miles away. |
Harry Krause wrote:
Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved...after all, he and his fellow officers did such a wonderful job for us in Vietnam, and it would be a welcome respite for John away from the danger of the schools where he substitutes and does not teach! The whole exercise could be plotted on computers Hertvik claims he can build faster, better, and cheaper, and security could be provided by Bert Robbins, the former marine and disciplinary case who was never posted overseas. Get Smithers-Starbuck involved; he could walk around and make snarky comments about the survivors trying to put their lives back together. Dammit, Don...that's a hell of an idea! Darn...I forgot about that mess in Vietnam. Those characters may not be suitable if they have to produce a resume. |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? |
wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. Of course! As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? I dunno. I don't listen to the lie-beral news stations. Down here, gas has come down 25-30 cents per gallon in the last week. Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. That's ridiculous. A terrorist is a terrorist. Just because he's not actively engaged in combat at any particular time, doesn't mean he stops being a terrorist. Terrorists are born and bred in the madrassas. They are opportunists...just waiting for the right time to strike. It's easier for them to flood from Syria and Iran into Iraq to blow themselves up around Americans, than it is for them to get to the US. Of course, the really hardcore ones we're facing in Iraq would be working to get to America if they didn't have an easier opportunity over there. The other benefit (besides luring them in like flies to ****) of having troops over there is that it gives our intel agencies more bases from which to operate clandestine operations into neighboring countries. We have created them faster than we have killed them. Horsepoop. You don't "create" terrorists...you "expose" them and bring them out into the open. Your analogy would be like saying that I "create" fish when I put a chum bag over the side...and I am suddenly surrounded by yellowtails. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq..... They're not all in Iraq. But the opportunistic ones are there. don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Only with help from outside nation-state funding and intel. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. 2% are in Guantanamo...not the US. But your side is working hard to change that! I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Whatever else he is, Herring is an o.f. And I wasn't using the f*ck word, you are. We know what you are. You're a chickenhawk. And you're a classless boor. |
"NOYB" wrote in message . net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Whatever else he is, Herring is an o.f. And I wasn't using the f*ck word, you are. o.f.=old ****, or old fart, or old fuddy-duddy, or.... It really doesn't matter. Your disdain for veterans (particularly from Vietnam) is obvious. |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. Of course! As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? I dunno. I don't listen to the lie-beral news stations. Down here, gas has come down 25-30 cents per gallon in the last week. Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. That's ridiculous. A terrorist is a terrorist. Just because he's not actively engaged in combat at any particular time, doesn't mean he stops being a terrorist. Terrorists are born and bred in the madrassas. They are opportunists...just waiting for the right time to strike. It's easier for them to flood from Syria and Iran into Iraq to blow themselves up around Americans, than it is for them to get to the US. Of course, the really hardcore ones we're facing in Iraq would be working to get to America if they didn't have an easier opportunity over there. The other benefit (besides luring them in like flies to ****) of having troops over there is that it gives our intel agencies more bases from which to operate clandestine operations into neighboring countries. We have created them faster than we have killed them. Horsepoop. You don't "create" terrorists...you "expose" them and bring them out into the open. Your analogy would be like saying that I "create" fish when I put a chum bag over the side...and I am suddenly surrounded by yellowtails. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq..... They're not all in Iraq. But the opportunistic ones are there. don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Only with help from outside nation-state funding and intel. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. 2% are in Guantanamo...not the US. But your side is working hard to change that! Add math to the subjects about which you know nothing. The 2% that Chuck claims are in the US are actually residing in the eastern tip of Cuba. |
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:27:39 GMT, Don White wrote:
PocoLoco wrote: The feds are doing a lot of work. But, the press is going to continue eating them alive. Today's Washington Post is replete with anecdotal accounts of the feds inaction. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...referrer=email One of the better one's is: ************************************* Mary Joseph, 63, a custodian from Violet, La., in a new apartment in Northland Woods off Beltway 8, is 17 miles from downtown: "We spend $30 for gas every few days, and we don't know where we are going." ************************************* Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. This is my favorite: ************************************** In Mississippi, people waiting for promised housing in the form of mobile homes or trailers found themselves in a Catch-22 situation: Even as local officials said they were waiting for FEMA to provide the shelters, officials at the federal agency said they were waiting for local officials to provide the right locations. ************************************* And, of course, this is Bush's fault because he should just take a chunk of land with no facilities and dump the shelter's there. The absolute best was Tim Russert this morning who was repeating that FEMA should have prepositioned all these shelters and supplies. Imagine the bureaucracy and resources we could pay for if we had all these huge storage sites within a hundred miles of any place in the USA that 'could' experience a natural/man-made disaster! What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. If they can arrange to camp tens of thousands of troops in a foreign land...why not the same amount of displaced citizens right in America? It should be easier, because with no one shooting at them the old fart officers could actually get close to the action instead of hiding miles away. Can you imagine the uproar if a few thousand folks were housed for a couple weeks in an un-airconditioned 'tent city'? The libs would be showing closeups of sweat and yelling at the mistreatment of fellow human beings. Of course, that's just normal in the military. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 16:21:36 GMT, "NOYB" wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Aw, he has the right to call us anything he wants. The Constitution, fought for by many o.f.'s, gave him that right. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 14:43:32 GMT, Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote: Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved...after all, he and his fellow officers did such a wonderful job for us in Vietnam, and it would be a welcome respite for John away from the danger of the schools where he substitutes and does not teach! The whole exercise could be plotted on computers Hertvik claims he can build faster, better, and cheaper, and security could be provided by Bert Robbins, the former marine and disciplinary case who was never posted overseas. Get Smithers-Starbuck involved; he could walk around and make snarky comments about the survivors trying to put their lives back together. Dammit, Don...that's a hell of an idea! Darn...I forgot about that mess in Vietnam. Those characters may not be suitable if they have to produce a resume. Gee, Don. Thanks for quoting Harry's post. I'll give it the attention it deserves................ -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On 18 Sep 2005 09:41:56 -0700, wrote:
NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Chuck, would you say there would be no more terrorism if not for Bush? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 18 Sep 2005 09:41:56 -0700, wrote: NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Chuck, would you say there would be no more terrorism if not for Bush? There likely would be less. Less than zero? As in zero attacks on the US since 9/11? |
NYOB,
Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. Did you notice the levee broke the day after the hurricane hit landfall. Very few people knew this, Harry was one of them. -- Starbuck "The people I distrust most are those who want to improve our lives but have only one course of action." -- Frank Herbert "NOYB" wrote in message .net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 18 Sep 2005 09:41:56 -0700, wrote: NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Chuck, would you say there would be no more terrorism if not for Bush? There likely would be less. Less than zero? As in zero attacks on the US since 9/11? |
"Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml |
They are both right, it was the infamous Al Qaeda White Terrorist.
-- Starbuck One nice thing about egotists: they don't talk about other people. "NOYB" wrote in message .net... "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml |
wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. What did you think it was about Chuck. It has always been about insuring the flow of oil from the region to the US of A. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? Gass in my area has droppd 35 cents in the last 6 days. As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. There are no more terrorists now than there were prior to 9/11. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Believe what you want! |
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 18 Sep 2005 09:41:56 -0700, wrote: NOYB wrote: "Don White" wrote in message ... wrote: NOYB wrote: I Will Rebuild With You, Mr. President By Donna Brazile Saturday, September 17, 2005; A21 New Orleans is my hometown. It is the place where I grew up, where my family still lives. For me, it is a place of comfort and memories. It is home. Now my home needs your help, and the help of every American. Much of my city is still underwater. Its historical buildings have been wrecked, its famous streets turned to rivers and, worst of all, so many of its wonderful people -- including members of my own family and my neighbors -- have lost everything. On Thursday night President Bush spoke to the nation from my city. I am not a Republican. I did not vote for George W. Bush -- in fact, I worked pretty hard against him in 2000 and 2004. But on Thursday night, after watching him speak from the heart, I could not have been prouder of the president and the plan he outlined to empower those who lost everything and to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush called on every American to stand up and support the rebuilding of the region. He told us that New Orleans and the entire Gulf Coast would rise from the ruins stronger than before. He enunciated something that we all need to remember: This is America. We are not immune to tragedy here, but we are strong because of our industriousness, our ingenuity and, most important, because of our compassion for one another. We are a nation of rebuilders and a nation of givers. We do not give up in the face of tragedy, we stand up, and we reach out to help those who cannot stand up on their own. The president called on every American to reach out to my neighbors in New Orleans and throughout the Gulf Coast. The great people of this country have already opened their hearts in the immediate aftermath of the storm, and their tremendous generosity has done more than just provide extra comfort -- it has saved lives. Now the crisis of survival is over. But the task of rebuilding remains, and the president made it clear that every single one of us has a role to play. Each of us belongs to some group -- a church, a union or a fraternal organization, or even a book club -- that can make a difference. It is those groups that can pool resources and then reach out to their counterparts in the stricken states and ask, "What can we do?" Schools, Girl Scout troops, Rotary clubs -- this is the time for every community group to step forward to lend a helping hand. We need it. The president also laid out the federal government's goal for rebuilding. It is unprecedented in its scope and ambition, matching destruction that is unprecedented as well. He made the challenge clear: This will be one of the biggest reconstruction projects in history. But he also made it clear that we can and will do this. New Orleans, Biloxi, all of the Gulf Coast will rise again. And the residents are ready to pitch in and do their part. I know, maybe better than anyone, that there are times when it seems that our nation is too divided ever to heal. There are times when we feel so different from each other that we can hardly believe that we are all part of the same family. But we are one nation. We are a family. And this is what we do. When the president asked us to pitch in Thursday night, he wasn't really asking us to do anything spectacular. He was asking us to be Americans, and to do what Americans always do. The president has set a national goal and defined a national purpose. This is something I believe with all my heart: When we are united, nothing can stop us. We will not waver, we will not tire, and we will not stop until the streets are clean, every last brick has been replaced and every last family has its home back. Bush talked about how we bury our family and friends. We grieve and mourn. We march to a solemn song and then we rejoice and step out and form the second line. That line is now open to every American to join us in rebuilding a great region of this country. New Orleans will rise again. My hometown is down but not out, and with the help of every American, it will be back on its feet, bigger and brighter than ever. Mr. President, I am ready for duty. I am ready to stir those old pots again. Let's roll up our sleeves and get to work. The writer, a Democratic political consultant, managed Al Gore's 2000 presidential campaign. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I've got a great idea: Let's rebuild the Gulf Coast (estimated cost about $150 billion, and growing) with the money we're sending to Iraq. We can continue funding the Iraq war with "faith based contributions" (amount collected from pirvate charities and churches so far is about 3/4 of one billion). At the rate we're going, we'll never get enough faith-based contribuitons to do the rebuild, but we're spending that much in Iraq every 90 days. So, instead of gutting the treasury to build roads, schools, hospitals, etc in Iraq let's use that money to rebuild the Gulf Coast. Bush can still have his war, he'll just have to rely on the generous spirit of the American people and faith-based contributions. :-) Very good...those who really want the war can pay for it. I'd vote for that. And those who don't want the war can reap the likely repercussions: higher gas prices and your friendly Islamic terrorist car-bombing in the downtown local schoolyard or police station. NOYB, you are always so refreshingly honest and once again you do not let us down. Thank you for admitting that the war in Iraq is primarily about the price of gas, and a fear that if we don't kill enough of our unidentifiable enemies fast enough that they will come here and do the same to us. As for the price of gas: we just had a fabulous demonstration of where the culprits lie. What was that state back east that temporarily removed a 16-cent gas tax, (to help bring down the cost of gas to the public) only to have the refineries *raise* the price of gas 14-cents in response? Don't see too many Arabs involved in that one, do we? As far as the terrorists go; there are far more now than when we invaded Iraq. We have created them faster than we have killed them. While you might argue, "but they're all in Iraq......" don't forget that it takes less than 2-dozen of these guys to bring down the WTC, attack the Pentagon, and crash a jetliner. Thanks to Bush's policy and the disinformation that rallied a fearful nation to war there are more terrorists now than ever before. Even if 98% of them are in Iraq and 2% of them are in the US, we're in deep krapperoo. I think we're all reaping the very real repercussions- and a darn shame it is, too. Chuck, would you say there would be no more terrorism if not for Bush? There likely would be less. Less than zero? As in zero attacks on the US since 9/11? We haven't been attacked again on US soil because Osama hasn't wanted to...yet. We have been attacked abroad, and nearly 2000 Americans have died in those attacks, plus tens of thousands of Iraqis and Afghanis have also died. Your comment stands as a perfect example of your naivete and the reason why I don't really bother to engage you in these discussions. It may be a tenet of right-wing litany that our war against Iraq has somehow "prevented" additional attacks here, but no one with responsibility for this nation's security, not even President Idiot himself, believes that. From Bush's speech to the Air Force Academy in June, 2004: " If America were not fighting terrorists in Iraq, and Afghanistan, and elsewhere, what would these thousands of killers do, suddenly begin leading productive lives of service and charity? Would the terrorists who beheaded an American on camera just be quiet, peaceful citizens if America had not liberated Iraq? We are dealing here with killers who have made the death of Americans the calling of their lives. And America has made a decision about these terrorists: Instead of waiting for them to strike again in our midst, we will take this fight to the enemy. " ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In other words, Bush believes (as I do) that you're either going to engage the terrorists over there or over here. But either way, a confrontation is certain. I'd rather fight them over there. |
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:11:36 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:
There are no more terrorists now than there were prior to 9/11. Really? And just how would you know that? It seems the State Department has stopped publishing "Patterns of Global Terrorism" when it found there were more terrorist attacks in 2004, than in any year since 1985. Of course, that doesn't mean there are more terrorists, it could mean, the individual terrorists are just more successful. Either way, the world *isn't* safer from terrorist attacks. http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/11407689.htm |
"thunder" wrote in message ... On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 20:11:36 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote: There are no more terrorists now than there were prior to 9/11. Really? And just how would you know that? It seems the State Department has stopped publishing "Patterns of Global Terrorism" when it found there were more terrorist attacks in 2004, than in any year since 1985. Of course, that doesn't mean there are more terrorists, it could mean, the individual terrorists are just more successful. Either way, the world *isn't* safer from terrorist attacks. http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/11407689.htm Statistics, eh? In Florida, we're in a fight with the Feds (NOAA specifically) regarding the accuracy of the statistics used to determine the 2004 recreational red grouper catch. The Feds somehow managed to conclude that twice as many red grouper were caught in 2004 than in 2003...despite 4 hurricanes virtually shutting down the two best months for grouper fishing last year. Ergo, they've used the flawed data to tighten the recreational catch limits and season. Statistics can be easily manipulated in such a way that they don't actually reflect reality. Despite being smack dab in the middle of a global war on terrorism, we haven't had a terrorist attack on US soil in over 4 years. To most Americans, that's success. |
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:33:58 +0000, NOYB wrote:
In other words, Bush believes (as I do) that you're either going to engage the terrorists over there or over here. But either way, a confrontation is certain. I'd rather fight them over there. In other words, it is just another mutated reason for the War in Iraq. Seems, I remember it starting as the threat WMD posed to us. No WMD? We're fighting to plant the seed of democracy. No democracy blooming? Ah, it's better to fight terrorism over there, than over here. True believer that you are, you've bit on all three, but, NOYB, all three reasons are still bull****. So, NOYB, do you think there is any chance the Iraqi Constitution will pass the Oct. 15 referendum? I've been very impressed by the Iraqi resiliency, but, unfortunately, if the referendum fails, and I think it will, that resiliency may not be enough. IMO Civil War is lurking ominously. |
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 02:34:19 +0000, NOYB wrote:
http://www.realcities.com/mld/krwashington/11407689.htm Statistics, eh? In Florida, we're in a fight with the Feds (NOAA specifically) regarding the accuracy of the statistics used to determine the 2004 recreational red grouper catch. The Feds somehow managed to conclude that twice as many red grouper were caught in 2004 than in 2003...despite 4 hurricanes virtually shutting down the two best months for grouper fishing last year. Ergo, they've used the flawed data to tighten the recreational catch limits and season. There's a big difference in counting thousands of fish, caught by thousands of fishermen, and well documented "significant" terrorist attacks. Oh, and attacks on American soldiers were not counted. Statistics can be easily manipulated in such a way that they don't actually reflect reality. Sure, they can be. I clearly remember Bush using the 2003 numbers to promote his election campaign. It was quite embarrassing for him, when the numbers had to be upgraded, quite embarrassing. Wade through the statistics, if you like: http://www.mipt.org/Patterns-of-Global-Terrorism.asp Despite being smack dab in the middle of a global war on terrorism, we haven't had a terrorist attack on US soil in over 4 years. To most Americans, that's success. "You can fool . . ." |
NOYB wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message . net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Whatever else he is, Herring is an o.f. And I wasn't using the f*ck word, you are. o.f.=old ****, or old fart, or old fuddy-duddy, or.... It really doesn't matter. Your disdain for veterans (particularly from Vietnam) is obvious. Idiot, he wasn't calling any and all vetereans o.f., nor was he showing disdain for them. He was, however, calling Herring an o.f., and he is! |
NOYB wrote: "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml No he didn't! But then, I've known that you aren't very good at comprehending what you've read. What he said, which is a direct quote from the very article that you gave a link to is this: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." Key word *may*. Nowhere did he say that "the whiteys did it". |
wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml No he didn't! But then, I've known that you aren't very good at comprehending what you've read. What he said, which is a direct quote from the very article that you gave a link to is this: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." Key word *may*. Nowhere did he say that "the whiteys did it". For your homework assignment, bassie, look up the words "implied" and "inferred". |
"NOYB" wrote in message .net... wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml No he didn't! But then, I've known that you aren't very good at comprehending what you've read. What he said, which is a direct quote from the very article that you gave a link to is this: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." Key word *may*. Nowhere did he say that "the whiteys did it". For your homework assignment, bassie, look up the words "implied" and "inferred". I wonder if Kevin has stopped beating his wife yet? LMAO Kevin once again proves why he is the "King of the NG idiots" |
On Sun, 18 Sep 2005 22:43:01 -0400, thunder wrote:
On Mon, 19 Sep 2005 01:33:58 +0000, NOYB wrote: In other words, Bush believes (as I do) that you're either going to engage the terrorists over there or over here. But either way, a confrontation is certain. I'd rather fight them over there. In other words, it is just another mutated reason for the War in Iraq. Seems, I remember it starting as the threat WMD posed to us. No WMD? We're fighting to plant the seed of democracy. No democracy blooming? Ah, it's better to fight terrorism over there, than over here. True believer that you are, you've bit on all three, but, NOYB, all three reasons are still bull****. So, NOYB, do you think there is any chance the Iraqi Constitution will pass the Oct. 15 referendum? I've been very impressed by the Iraqi resiliency, but, unfortunately, if the referendum fails, and I think it will, that resiliency may not be enough. IMO Civil War is lurking ominously. So, do you then think all terrorism would stop if only we left Iraq? -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
On 19 Sep 2005 06:44:06 -0700, wrote:
NOYB wrote: "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml No he didn't! But then, I've known that you aren't very good at comprehending what you've read. What he said, which is a direct quote from the very article that you gave a link to is this: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." Key word *may*. Nowhere did he say that "the whiteys did it". Well! That makes a big difference! You'd best stick to fantasy motorcycle stories! -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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Harry,
You seem to be stuck in a groove. -- Starbuck The indispensable first step to getting the things you want out of life is this: Decide what you want. - Stein, Ben This signature was made by SigChanger. You can find SigChanger at: http://www.phranc.nl/ "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 19 Sep 2005 06:44:06 -0700, wrote: NOYB wrote: "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml No he didn't! But then, I've known that you aren't very good at comprehending what you've read. What he said, which is a direct quote from the very article that you gave a link to is this: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." Key word *may*. Nowhere did he say that "the whiteys did it". Well! That makes a big difference! You'd best stick to fantasy motorcycle stories! Stuck in a groove, dipstick? -- - - - George W. Bush, our hero! "We have enough coal to last for 250 years, yet coal also prevents an environmental challenge." |
Harry are you stuck in a groove?
-- Starbuck The master of a single trade can support a family. The master of seven trades cannot support himself. The wind is never for the sailor who knows not to what port he is bound. - Mandino, Og "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... PocoLoco wrote: On 19 Sep 2005 06:20:32 -0700, wrote: NOYB wrote: "NOYB" wrote in message . net... "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... NOYB wrote: "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... Don White wrote: PocoLoco wrote: Of course, this is Bush's fault, because this lady, and those with her, cannot read a map. What we have to do is get some of the old retired know-it-alls from the Army to come in and setup facilities. Yes! Get the useless o.f.'s like John Herring involved US veterans? You're referring to them as o.f.'s (old ****s)? And you have the audacity to call me a piece of crap? Whatever else he is, Herring is an o.f. And I wasn't using the f*ck word, you are. o.f.=old ****, or old fart, or old fuddy-duddy, or.... It really doesn't matter. Your disdain for veterans (particularly from Vietnam) is obvious. Idiot, he wasn't calling any and all vetereans o.f., nor was he showing disdain for them. He was, however, calling Herring an o.f., and he is! You have no business calling anyone an idiot. Only an idiot would fabricate a story about a non-existent motorcycle and then fabricate a cut'n'paste to support his claim! Stuck in a groove, dipstick? - - - George W. Bush, our hero! "I'm looking forward to a good night's sleep on the soil of a friend."—Bush, on the prospect of visiting Denmark, Washington D.C., June 29, 2005 |
NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml No he didn't! But then, I've known that you aren't very good at comprehending what you've read. What he said, which is a direct quote from the very article that you gave a link to is this: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." Key word *may*. Nowhere did he say that "the whiteys did it". For your homework assignment, bassie, look up the words "implied" and "inferred". For your homwork assignment, NOYBie, look up the word "may". |
On 20 Sep 2005 05:53:14 -0700, wrote:
NOYB wrote: wrote in message oups.com... NOYB wrote: "Starbuck" wrote in message ... NYOB, Hurricane Katrina was a terrorist sneak attack. But Farrakhan said that the whiteys did it: http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2...4/201055.shtml No he didn't! But then, I've known that you aren't very good at comprehending what you've read. What he said, which is a direct quote from the very article that you gave a link to is this: "I heard from a very reliable source who saw a 25 foot deep crater under the levee breach," Farrakhan explained. "It may have been blown up to destroy the black part of town and keep the white part dry." Key word *may*. Nowhere did he say that "the whiteys did it". For your homework assignment, bassie, look up the words "implied" and "inferred". For your homwork assignment, NOYBie, look up the word "may". ....as in, "B'asskisser *may* have owned a Moto Guzzi 'Desmo', but he didn't. -- John H "All decisions are the result of binary thinking." |
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