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[email protected] September 16th 05 09:46 PM

Whyt I hate boat electric problems...
 
Schematic?


Eisboch September 16th 05 09:49 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what the
hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?



Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)




Starbuck's September 16th 05 09:59 PM

Smithers is Harry's imaginary buddy.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?



Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)






Don White September 16th 05 10:17 PM

Harry Krause wrote:
My VHF blew its fuse earlier this week for reasons unknown. Well, I
assumed it did, because it suddenly stopped working. When I took it home
and plugged it into my 12V battery eliminator, it fired right up.

So I went poking around the fuse panel. First accessory fuseholder I
opened had a blown fuse, so I replaced it. No joy with the radio.
Obviously, another fuseholder, so I kept on looking and found the devil.

Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?

Grrrr.

Have you got a diagram/list of what is on each fuse/circuit breaker?

Don White September 16th 05 10:19 PM

Eisboch wrote:


Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)



Trust me...you're better off not knowing.

Starbuck's September 16th 05 11:11 PM

Harry,
I have always been so polite to you, why the attitude?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?



Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)




A piece of garbage who logs on here with 50 or 60 different handles and
tries to stir the crap he carries with him into the newsgroup.

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Don White September 16th 05 11:25 PM

Harry Krause wrote:


I do for what the manufacturer installed.

Wonder if it's the same procedure you'd use in your house? Pull a fuse
and try every piece of equipment on the boat.
What doesn't work gets added to the list for that circuit. Then you
re-install the fuse and see if the stuff assigned to that circuit now
works. Repeat for all circuits. How many are on your panel?

[email protected] September 17th 05 12:54 AM

Dealer installed, yer screwed. I bet they didnt even use the right
color wires. Your just gonna have to get out the old VOM.
I gotta do something similar this weekend. My bilge pump doesnt work,
doesnt even read 12V at the pump, weird, gotta be a break somewhere
where the wire runs through stuff. Gonna have to somehow snake in new
wires.
Could it have been a voltage transient from a nearby lightning strike,
somebody start up a big pump etc? You'd think it woulda fried the
electronics 1st though.

good luck


JIMinFL September 17th 05 01:56 AM

Probably something like a bilge de-watering pump float switch or fume
sniffer or some other insignificant item.
JIMinFL
"Starbuck's" wrote in message
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Smithers is Harry's imaginary buddy.

"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?



Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)








[email protected] September 17th 05 02:23 AM

Being a good techie luddite, I never trusted such things as float
switches. All it has is a single on/off switch on the panel. I am so
distrustful of complicated stuff that I dont even have shore power.


Don White September 17th 05 02:35 AM

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


You have two blown fuses, one of which actually ran to a device that
you know about.

What was the amperage of the fuse? Did you check the lights? Panel
lights? Bilge pump? Live well pumps? Wash down system?


'Wash down system'? You powerboaters kill me!

JR North September 17th 05 03:59 AM

Actually, he posts here as {Starbuck's}. To what possession of his he is
referring to, I haven't a clue.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working,
what the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?



Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)




He currently posts here as Starbuck.



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Bryan September 17th 05 04:21 AM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:35:57 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


You have two blown fuses, one of which actually ran to a device that
you know about.

What was the amperage of the fuse? Did you check the lights? Panel
lights? Bilge pump? Live well pumps? Wash down system?


'Wash down system'? You powerboaters kill me!


Real boats have blood on their decks.


Oh hell, is that why my boat has removable carpet? Now you tell me! ;-)



Bill McKee September 17th 05 04:45 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
Being a good techie luddite, I never trusted such things as float
switches. All it has is a single on/off switch on the panel. I am so
distrustful of complicated stuff that I dont even have shore power.


Float switches are very good. Just wire in parallel to a dash switch, Use
a lighted dash switch and the light will come on when the float switch
activates. Then when you do not notice the boat taking on water, the pump
will start dewatering earlier than you will engage the switch.



Bill McKee September 17th 05 05:02 AM

And you can not even spell "Why"!

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Don White wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:
My VHF blew its fuse earlier this week for reasons unknown. Well, I
assumed it did, because it suddenly stopped working. When I took it home
and plugged it into my 12V battery eliminator, it fired right up.

So I went poking around the fuse panel. First accessory fuseholder I
opened had a blown fuse, so I replaced it. No joy with the radio.
Obviously, another fuseholder, so I kept on looking and found the devil.

Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?

Grrrr.

Have you got a diagram/list of what is on each fuse/circuit breaker?


I do for what the manufacturer installed.

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Lloyd Sumpter September 17th 05 07:53 AM

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 16:24:17 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

My VHF blew its fuse earlier this week for reasons unknown.


Maybe you need a 25-yr-old "dumpster-boat". The VHF has always worked on
mine...

Then again, you're always praising the Wonders of Warranties - can't you
just wave your warranty over the radio and it will magically start working?
;)

Lloyd



Lloyd Sumpter September 17th 05 07:56 AM

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:40:24 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:35:57 GMT, Don White
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


You have two blown fuses, one of which actually ran to a device that
you know about.

What was the amperage of the fuse? Did you check the lights? Panel
lights? Bilge pump? Live well pumps? Wash down system?


'Wash down system'? You powerboaters kill me!


Real boats have blood on their decks.


Not if you do your C&R right... ;)

Lloyd



Don White September 17th 05 02:57 PM

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 01:35:57 GMT, Don White
wrote:


Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


You have two blown fuses, one of which actually ran to a device that
you know about.

What was the amperage of the fuse? Did you check the lights? Panel
lights? Bilge pump? Live well pumps? Wash down system?


'Wash down system'? You powerboaters kill me!



Real boats have blood on their decks.


Anytime we needed 'wash down water' we threw a bucket attached to a line
over the side. Trick was to pull it back up at about 80% full...before
the drag added to the weight. (while underway).

Star-bucks September 17th 05 06:34 PM

Harry,
Why do you insist on this name calling, it ruins the tone of rec.boats.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JR North wrote:
Actually, he posts here as {Starbuck's}. To what possession of his he is
referring to, I haven't a clue.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?



Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)




He currently posts here as Starbuck.





Smithers using the "Starbuck" handle besmirches the name of the first mate
aboard the Pequod, Captain Ahab's ship in Moby-Dick. The literary Starbuck
was a man of integrity and honor. The one who plagues rec.boats is a piece
of crap.




Star-bucks September 17th 05 06:37 PM

Harry,
PS - I was surprised that your memory was able to jog up your reading from
Freshman English. That is one of the amazing things about "Somehimzer's",
you may not remember what you said yesterday, but you can remember in detail
those things that happened 40 yrs ago.


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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JR North wrote:
Actually, he posts here as {Starbuck's}. To what possession of his he is
referring to, I haven't a clue.
JR

Harry Krause wrote:
Eisboch wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?



Your Smithers filter?

Eisboch (hasn't a clue who this "Smithers" is)




He currently posts here as Starbuck.





Smithers using the "Starbuck" handle besmirches the name of the first mate
aboard the Pequod, Captain Ahab's ship in Moby-Dick. The literary Starbuck
was a man of integrity and honor. The one who plagues rec.boats is a piece
of crap.




Eisboch September 17th 05 08:49 PM



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Smithers using the "Starbuck" handle besmirches the name of the first
mate aboard the Pequod, Captain Ahab's ship in Moby-Dick. The literary
Starbuck was a man of integrity and honor. The one who plagues rec.boats
is a piece of crap.




I recently learned that Moby-Dick was a literary flop when it was first
published. It took over 40 years to be discovered.

Eisboch



Starbuck September 17th 05 09:09 PM

Eisboch,

Such is life.

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"The whole dream of democracy is to raise the proletarian to the level of
stupidity attained by the bourgeois." -- Gustave Flaubert
"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Smithers using the "Starbuck" handle besmirches the name of the first
mate aboard the Pequod, Captain Ahab's ship in Moby-Dick. The literary
Starbuck was a man of integrity and honor. The one who plagues rec.boats
is a piece of crap.




I recently learned that Moby-Dick was a literary flop when it was first
published. It took over 40 years to be discovered.

Eisboch




Starbuck September 17th 05 09:19 PM

Harry,
I am impressed, I had no idea you were a published author. Give the book 5
more years and you will be as famous as Herman Melville.

--

Starbuck

"The coward regards himself as cautious; the miser, as thrifty." - Publilius
Syrus
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Smithers using the "Starbuck" handle besmirches the name of the first
mate aboard the Pequod, Captain Ahab's ship in Moby-Dick. The literary
Starbuck was a man of integrity and honor. The one who plagues
rec.boats is a piece of crap.


I recently learned that Moby-Dick was a literary flop when it was first
published. It took over 40 years to be discovered.

Eisboch



My "first book" only had a press run of 52, and one of the copies was
mine. It was a giveaway, and from what I remember, it caused a lot of
trouble. About 35 years ago. If anyone discovered a copy now, it would be
good for...kindling. :}




Starbuck September 17th 05 09:22 PM

Eisboch,
I don't know if you realize it, but Moby Dick was based upon a true event.

http://www.melville.org/reynolds.htm



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foretells futurity like the thoughts over which we brood." - Newell Dwight
Hillis


"Eisboch" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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Smithers using the "Starbuck" handle besmirches the name of the first
mate aboard the Pequod, Captain Ahab's ship in Moby-Dick. The literary
Starbuck was a man of integrity and honor. The one who plagues rec.boats
is a piece of crap.




I recently learned that Moby-Dick was a literary flop when it was first
published. It took over 40 years to be discovered.

Eisboch




*JimH* September 17th 05 09:32 PM


"Eisboch" wrote in message
...


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...



Smithers using the "Starbuck" handle besmirches the name of the first
mate aboard the Pequod, Captain Ahab's ship in Moby-Dick. The literary
Starbuck was a man of integrity and honor. The one who plagues rec.boats
is a piece of crap.




I recently learned that Moby-Dick was a literary flop when it was first
published. It took over 40 years to be discovered.

Eisboch


A Moby Dick could certainly be defined as a flop. ;-)



[email protected] September 19th 05 02:36 PM


Bill McKee wrote:
And you can not even spell "Why"!


The ****s getting deep now. Calif Bill, who can hardly post a complete
sentence, is going to start pointing out people's typos???!!!!!


PocoLoco September 19th 05 04:00 PM

On 19 Sep 2005 06:36:46 -0700, wrote:


Bill McKee wrote:
And you can not even spell "Why"!


The ****s getting deep now. Calif Bill, who can hardly post a complete
sentence, is going to start pointing out people's typos???!!!!!


I would rather read an honest incomplete sentence than a well written lie! Tell
us about your 'Desmo'. We'd love to see a picture of it!

BTW, it should have been *****'s*!

Like this: The dip****'s telling another lie.
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Netsock September 19th 05 05:53 PM


"Michael Gardner" wrote in message
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In article ,
Harry Krause wrote:

My VHF blew its fuse earlier this week for reasons unknown. Well, I
assumed it did, because it suddenly stopped working. When I took it home
and plugged it into my 12V battery eliminator, it fired right up.

So I went poking around the fuse panel. First accessory fuseholder I
opened had a blown fuse, so I replaced it. No joy with the radio.
Obviously, another fuseholder, so I kept on looking and found the devil.

Now, since every other accessory circuit on the boat was working, what
the hell was NOT working because of the first blown fuse I found?

Grrrr.


Our Klass Klown Krause has reached new heights...

Now he's fabricating boat problems, to prove he has a boat!

What a dimwit! LOL!

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-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



*JimH* September 19th 05 06:00 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bill McKee wrote:
And you can not even spell "Why"!


The ****s getting deep now. Calif Bill, who can hardly post a complete
sentence, is going to start pointing out people's typos???!!!!!


What kind of boat do you own alt-man? Care to post a picture of it?



Bill McKee September 19th 05 08:47 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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PocoLoco wrote:
On 19 Sep 2005 06:36:46 -0700, wrote:

Bill McKee wrote:
And you can not even spell "Why"!
The ****s getting deep now. Calif Bill, who can hardly post a complete
sentence, is going to start pointing out people's typos???!!!!!


I would rather read an honest incomplete sentence than a well written
lie! Tell
us about your 'Desmo'. We'd love to see a picture of it!

BTW, it should have been *****'s*!

Like this: The dip****'s telling another lie.



Desmo Herring strikes again.



Learned to spell yet?



Bill McKee September 19th 05 08:48 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Bill McKee wrote:
And you can not even spell "Why"!


The ****s getting deep now. Calif Bill, who can hardly post a complete
sentence, is going to start pointing out people's typos???!!!!!


And the foul mouthed liar comes out of the slime to show he is still stupid.




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