Hurriacane Ophelia and North Carolina
 

It looks like North Carolina did a better job preparing for a Cat. 1
Hurricane hitting a secluded beach than LA did when preparing for a Cat. 5
Hurricane hitting major cities, one below sea level..

I noticed the NC National Guard was on the scene as soon as the hurricane
passed, providing SAR, police support and damage control.

Hopefully other local and state agencies can learn from NC.

On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:15:18 -0400, Starbuck's wrote:

It looks like North Carolina did a better job preparing for a Cat. 1
Hurricane hitting a secluded beach than LA did when preparing for a Cat. 5
Hurricane hitting major cities, one below sea level..

Not to defend New Orleans inept job, but let's be fair. There is no
comparison between the two events. The problems of evacuation a million
plus, under the best circumstances, are overwhelmingly difficult. One of
those circumstances would be a competent Mayor/Governor. ;-)

I noticed the NC National Guard was on the scene as soon as the hurricane
passed, providing SAR, police support and damage control.

Hopefully other local and state agencies can learn from NC.

I respectfully suggest, here is one city that hasn't learned from New
Orleans.

http://sptimes.com/2005/09/02/Tampab..._plans_u.shtml

Katrina would have put half the county under water, yet they have no plans
for a full evacuation.

Damn it Starbucks.........stop trying to pass over the main issue with
Ophelia........the hurricane was obviously Bush's fault and should not have
happened in the first place.


"Starbuck's" wrote in message
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It looks like North Carolina did a better job preparing for a Cat. 1
Hurricane hitting a secluded beach than LA did when preparing for a Cat. 5
Hurricane hitting major cities, one below sea level..

I noticed the NC National Guard was on the scene as soon as the hurricane
passed, providing SAR, police support and damage control.

Hopefully other local and state agencies can learn from NC.

*JimH* wrote:
Damn it Starbucks.........stop trying to pass over the main issue with
Ophelia........the hurricane was obviously Bush's fault and should not have
happened in the first place.

Damn you're stupid.

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*JimH* wrote:
Damn it Starbucks.........stop trying to pass over the main issue with
Ophelia........the hurricane was obviously Bush's fault and should not
have
happened in the first place.

Damn you're stupid.


Yes it would be stupid to blame the hurricane on Bush. Just as it would be
stupid to blame the lack of preparedness by NO and LA for a Cat4 hurricane
and flooding in a city lying 11 feet below sea level on Bush.

Thunder,
I respectfully suggest that any city and state (except for NO and LA) that
knew a Cat. 5 hurricane was going to hit them, would have called up the
National Guard prior to landfall.


"thunder" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Sep 2005 08:15:18 -0400, Starbuck's wrote:

It looks like North Carolina did a better job preparing for a Cat. 1
Hurricane hitting a secluded beach than LA did when preparing for a Cat.
5
Hurricane hitting major cities, one below sea level..

Not to defend New Orleans inept job, but let's be fair. There is no
comparison between the two events. The problems of evacuation a million
plus, under the best circumstances, are overwhelmingly difficult. One of
those circumstances would be a competent Mayor/Governor. ;-)

I noticed the NC National Guard was on the scene as soon as the hurricane
passed, providing SAR, police support and damage control.

Hopefully other local and state agencies can learn from NC.

I respectfully suggest, here is one city that hasn't learned from New
Orleans.

http://sptimes.com/2005/09/02/Tampab..._plans_u.shtml

Katrina would have put half the county under water, yet they have no plans
for a full evacuation.

Kevin,
NO and LA screwed the pooch, when they failed to take the most basic
precautions when a Cat 5 was predicted to hit a city surrounded by levees
and was below sealevel.

When people ignore this obvious fact, and use this disaster as an excuse to
attack ones political opponents, it is not only stupid, but
counterproductive to solving the problem.


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*JimH* wrote:
Damn it Starbucks.........stop trying to pass over the main issue with
Ophelia........the hurricane was obviously Bush's fault and should not
have
happened in the first place.

Damn you're stupid.

Starbuck's wrote:
Kevin,
NO and LA screwed the pooch, when they failed to take the most basic
precautions when a Cat 5 was predicted to hit a city surrounded by levees
and was below sealevel.

Please stop replying to my posts, and calling me Kevin. Are you really
so stupid that you can't figure out how I can post from someone else's
address?
If and when you stop refering to me as Kevin, then I'll answer
questions and correspond with you.

Kevin,
What is your correct name?


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Starbuck's wrote:
Kevin,
NO and LA screwed the pooch, when they failed to take the most basic
precautions when a Cat 5 was predicted to hit a city surrounded by levees
and was below sealevel.

Please stop replying to my posts, and calling me Kevin. Are you really
so stupid that you can't figure out how I can post from someone else's
address?
If and when you stop refering to me as Kevin, then I'll answer
questions and correspond with you.

On 16 Sep 2005 07:34:49 -0700, wrote:


Starbuck's wrote:
Kevin,
NO and LA screwed the pooch, when they failed to take the most basic
precautions when a Cat 5 was predicted to hit a city surrounded by levees
and was below sealevel.

Please stop replying to my posts, and calling me Kevin. Are you really
so stupid that you can't figure out how I can post from someone else's
address?
If and when you stop refering to me as Kevin, then I'll answer
questions and correspond with you.

OK, I won't call you Kevin. But, b'asskisser, when are you going to give us the
Moto Guzzi Desmo URL? Also, when are you going to show us some pictures of that
one-of-a-kind machine?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 17 Sep 2005 21:23:13 -0400, Gene Kearns
wrote:

most people in NC don't leave for a Cat 1..3. A Cat 4+ is another
animal altogether... as I, personally, learned with Hazel and Camille!


Another veteran of Hazel!

The eye passed over my house twice.

Then came Donna.
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It looks like North Carolina did a better job preparing for a Cat. 1


Possibly so.

Gene Kearns wrote:
There is one "Hell" of a difference between a Cat 1 and Cat 2.... and
even more (geometrically) between other "cats."


Yep, while we have had hurricanes that swept houses off a beach where
they should never have been built in the first place, we have NOT had
hurricanes that lifted interstate highway bridges off their foundations.



most people in NC don't leave for a Cat 1..3. A Cat 4+ is another
animal altogether... as I, personally, learned with Hazel and Camille!y so.

Locally, we did *nothing* to prepare for a Cat 1 other than look for
the rakes to clean the yard. North of us... well, due to the (slow)
speed of the storm, they lost lots of beach. Nothing to do, but
watch.

Mother Nature reigns supreme.


I bet there were emergency resources mobilized in your area. I know
there were in the New Bern area, which also was not very hard hit.
Swansboro looked pretty bad; and I wouldn't have wanted to be anchored
out in Lookout Bight for that million dollars!

Didja hear about the couple anchored in Mile Hammock Bay (ICW near
Swansboro) in a 25' sailboat?

Fair Skies
Doug King

DSK wrote:

Didja hear about the couple anchored in Mile Hammock Bay (ICW near
Swansboro) in a 25' sailboat?


Nope - details please. This is my neck of the boating woods, but I
haven't been down since the storm. Relatives on Bogue Banks say the
sound side was hit hard.

Lars

Didja hear about the couple anchored in Mile Hammock Bay (ICW near
Swansboro) in a 25' sailboat?


lars wrote:
Nope - details please. This is my neck of the boating woods, but I
haven't been down since the storm. Relatives on Bogue Banks say the
sound side was hit hard.


I only heard a brief news report, that the boat dragged ashore, the
people were fine, the Marine Corps used a truck to put the boat back in
the water for them. I was hoping somebody else would have more details.

It couldn't have been hit too hard, the vacation rentals are open at
Emerald Isle this week.

Fresh BReezes- Doug King