Geese on the way!
 

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:25:00 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


Oh yeah we do. Those of us who own ponds and like to walk around the
local parks with small ponds just love the smelly, crap everywhere, get in
your face and attack little kids monsters.

You know that there are two populations of Canada geese? The ones you are
complaining about are the resident population and their numbers are
growing enormously. However, the migratory Canada goose population is
quite stressed.

Here in New Jersey, we have a rather liberal early season and late season,
that targets the resident populations. The mid-season, when the migratory
population is passing through, is rather restrictive. I would assume the
migration is comparable in Connecticut.

http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/issues.../apcangse.html

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/news/2000/wntrgs01.htm

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:58:09 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:25:00 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


Oh yeah we do. Those of us who own ponds and like to walk around the
local parks with small ponds just love the smelly, crap everywhere, get in
your face and attack little kids monsters.

You know that there are two populations of Canada geese? The ones you are
complaining about are the resident population and their numbers are
growing enormously. However, the migratory Canada goose population is
quite stressed.

Here in New Jersey, we have a rather liberal early season and late season,
that targets the resident populations. The mid-season, when the migratory
population is passing through, is rather restrictive. I would assume the
migration is comparable in Connecticut.

http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/issues.../apcangse.html

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/news/2000/wntrgs01.htm


Canada is welcome to come to Northern Virginia and take some of the damn geese
back! Maybe they'd become migrators again and kill two birds with one stone!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:03:34 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


Tom's local geese drink tonic and go candlestick bowling.

Ah, but I can understand his complaining. Any grassy area around here is
definitely a watch your step experience. Somewhere I read that a goose
produces more "waste" per day than a human. Yuck!

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:38:00 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


We've so decimated the critter habitat that I have no objections to
sharing what is left. Most evenings, just about dusk, I have foxes walking
through the edge of my back yard next to the woods. I'd rather see them
than some damned ugly subdivision house across the field.

Well, we sure have changed the habitat, but around here, the animals have
seemed to have adapted. They are far more numerous and varied than when I
was younger. New Jersey isn't thought of as country, but within walking
distance of my house, I have seen bear, beaver, otter, coyote, wild
turkeys. All of which would have been quite rare, if existent, just a few
years ago. Oh, and deer, they are like vermin, forget gardens or shrubs.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:22:01 -0400, thunder wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:03:34 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


Tom's local geese drink tonic and go candlestick bowling.

Ah, but I can understand his complaining. Any grassy area around here is
definitely a watch your step experience. Somewhere I read that a goose
produces more "waste" per day than a human. Yuck!

Around here, those grassy areas include all the school football and soccer
fields. The kids, especially the female ones, do *not* like sliding over the
ground through a bunch of goose ****.

We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:22:01 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:03:34 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


Tom's local geese drink tonic and go candlestick bowling.

Ah, but I can understand his complaining. Any grassy area around here is
definitely a watch your step experience. Somewhere I read that a goose
produces more "waste" per day than a human. Yuck!

Around here, those grassy areas include all the school football and soccer
fields. The kids, especially the female ones, do *not* like sliding over
the
ground through a bunch of goose ****.

We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Retention ponds around here are crisscrossed with fishing line just above
the water to keep the geese out.

Beautiful birds but messy and very aggressive.

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


I am perfectly aware of that and they all deserve to die horrible
deaths.

What? Up here they have perfect manners and cause no trouble.
George W and his cronies must bring out the worst out in 'em!

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:44:28 -0400, PocoLoco
wrote:


On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:58:09 -0400, thunder wrote:


On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:25:00 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:



Oh yeah we do. Those of us who own ponds and like to walk around the
local parks with small ponds just love the smelly, crap everywhere, get in
your face and attack little kids monsters.

You know that there are two populations of Canada geese? The ones you are
complaining about are the resident population and their numbers are
growing enormously. However, the migratory Canada goose population is
quite stressed.

Here in New Jersey, we have a rather liberal early season and late season,
that targets the resident populations. The mid-season, when the migratory
population is passing through, is rather restrictive. I would assume the
migration is comparable in Connecticut.

http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/issues.../apcangse.html

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/news/2000/wntrgs01.htm


Canada is welcome to come to Northern Virginia and take some of the damn geese
back! Maybe they'd become migrators again and kill two birds with one stone!


OH BOY!!!! Another kill 'em all thread!!!

WHOO HOO!!!

In a minute NOYB will pipe in wanting to 'nuke 'em all'!

PocoLoco wrote:

We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.


Ah..you 'mericans! Where would you be without your guns?

"Don White" wrote in message
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Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:44:28 -0400, PocoLoco
wrote:


On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 06:58:09 -0400, thunder
wrote:


On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:25:00 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:



Oh yeah we do. Those of us who own ponds and like to walk around the
local parks with small ponds just love the smelly, crap everywhere, get
in
your face and attack little kids monsters.

You know that there are two populations of Canada geese? The ones you
are
complaining about are the resident population and their numbers are
growing enormously. However, the migratory Canada goose population is
quite stressed.
Here in New Jersey, we have a rather liberal early season and late
season,
that targets the resident populations. The mid-season, when the
migratory
population is passing through, is rather restrictive. I would assume
the
migration is comparable in Connecticut.
http://migratorybirds.fws.gov/issues.../apcangse.html

http://www.state.nj.us/dep/fgw/news/2000/wntrgs01.htm


Canada is welcome to come to Northern Virginia and take some of the damn
geese
back! Maybe they'd become migrators again and kill two birds with one
stone!


OH BOY!!!! Another kill 'em all thread!!!

WHOO HOO!!!

In a minute NOYB will pipe in wanting to 'nuke 'em all'!

Nope. Nukes would make the geese inedible. I prefer my geese roasted or
deep-fried.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:20:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I haven't seen beaver or coyote or otter in my woods, but I have run
across bear tracks.

You mentioned that you have fox. An outdoorsman I know told me, you can
have fox or coyote, but not both. Apparently, coyote will kill foxes.
Bear are becoming quite common here and are a joy to see, but are a little
spooky to me. They have never shown any aggression to me, but neither do
they seem to fear me. I'm not used to that. I prefer wild animals,
especially large wild animals with big teeth, to fear me.

thunder wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:20:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:



I haven't seen beaver or coyote or otter in my woods, but I have run
across bear tracks.


You mentioned that you have fox. An outdoorsman I know told me, you can
have fox or coyote, but not both. Apparently, coyote will kill foxes.
Bear are becoming quite common here and are a joy to see, but are a little
spooky to me. They have never shown any aggression to me, but neither do
they seem to fear me. I'm not used to that. I prefer wild animals,
especially large wild animals with big teeth, to fear me.

Had a problem in this area with bears snacking on people's
garbage...especially in the green recycle bins. This usually happens in
the spring when they wakeup hungry.

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:20:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I haven't seen beaver or coyote or otter in my woods, but I have run
across bear tracks.

You mentioned that you have fox. An outdoorsman I know told me, you can
have fox or coyote, but not both. Apparently, coyote will kill foxes.
Bear are becoming quite common here and are a joy to see, but are a little
spooky to me. They have never shown any aggression to me, but neither do
they seem to fear me. I'm not used to that. I prefer wild animals,
especially large wild animals with big teeth, to fear me.

At 5:30 P.M. on Sept. 6, my neighbor, Dr. Jacqueline Perry, was killed and
her husband severely injured by a black bear. The bear stalked and killed
her and then mauled her husband as he tried to rescue her. The bear
stalked and leaped upon Jackie as she was near their campfire. Bears can
become too familiar with people as they equate people with food. They are
large wild animals and should be left alone as they can kill you very
easily.

Jim

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:15:39 GMT, Don White wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:

We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.


Ah..you 'mericans! Where would you be without your guns?

Same place. Don't they have guns in Canada any more?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:15:39 GMT, Don White
wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:

We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.


Ah..you 'mericans! Where would you be without your guns?

Same place. Don't they have guns in Canada any more?

Don, forgets that we ensured our right to keep and bear arms in our founding
documents.

An armed populace means a government in fear.

Jim Carter wrote:
"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:20:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:



I haven't seen beaver or coyote or otter in my woods, but I have run
across bear tracks.

You mentioned that you have fox. An outdoorsman I know told me, you can
have fox or coyote, but not both. Apparently, coyote will kill foxes.
Bear are becoming quite common here and are a joy to see, but are a little
spooky to me. They have never shown any aggression to me, but neither do
they seem to fear me. I'm not used to that. I prefer wild animals,
especially large wild animals with big teeth, to fear me.


At 5:30 P.M. on Sept. 6, my neighbor, Dr. Jacqueline Perry, was killed and
her husband severely injured by a black bear. The bear stalked and killed
her and then mauled her husband as he tried to rescue her. The bear
stalked and leaped upon Jackie as she was near their campfire. Bears can
become too familiar with people as they equate people with food. They are
large wild animals and should be left alone as they can kill you very
easily.

Jim


Did this happen in Ontario Jim?
Seems like every year we hear reports out of BC or Alberta about bear
attacks. A Nova Scotia girl was messed up pretty good out there.

PocoLoco wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:15:39 GMT, Don White wrote:


PocoLoco wrote:


We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.


Ah..you 'mericans! Where would you be without your guns?


Same place. Don't they have guns in Canada any more?


Yes, but we are expected to use them responsibly!

Bert Robbins wrote:


Don, forgets that we ensured our right to keep and bear arms in our founding
documents.

An armed populace means a government in fear.


Maybe...but if your govt fears you, they may feel compelled to put in
place some drastic
measure to neutralize you.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:41:14 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Don, forgets that we ensured our right to keep and bear arms in our
founding documents.

An armed populace means a government in fear.

Really? That same document ensured our right to "due process of law", but
Bush threw that one out, e.g. Padillo. Or, is the Second Amendment the
only one you care about?

thunder wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:20:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I haven't seen beaver or coyote or otter in my woods, but I have run
across bear tracks.

You mentioned that you have fox. An outdoorsman I know told me, you can
have fox or coyote, but not both. Apparently, coyote will kill foxes.
Bear are becoming quite common here and are a joy to see, but are a little
spooky to me. They have never shown any aggression to me, but neither do
they seem to fear me. I'm not used to that. I prefer wild animals,
especially large wild animals with big teeth, to fear me.

I don't know about that. Mrs. E and I enjoy coffee in the morning sitting in
the garage with the doors open, watching the wild life making their way
across our property. In addition to regular visits by deer and rabbits, we
have seen a coyote from time to time as well as a little fox that visits
once or twice a week. The funniest sight is the wild turkeys. They fly,
but not very well. Landings are your basic controlled crash.

Eisboch

I live in suburbia, and we have a red fox, grey fox and a coyote living in
our area. All the them sharing the same territory, keeping the rabbit
population in check.



"Eisboch" wrote in message
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thunder wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:20:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I haven't seen beaver or coyote or otter in my woods, but I have run
across bear tracks.

You mentioned that you have fox. An outdoorsman I know told me, you can
have fox or coyote, but not both. Apparently, coyote will kill foxes.
Bear are becoming quite common here and are a joy to see, but are a
little
spooky to me. They have never shown any aggression to me, but neither do
they seem to fear me. I'm not used to that. I prefer wild animals,
especially large wild animals with big teeth, to fear me.

I don't know about that. Mrs. E and I enjoy coffee in the morning sitting
in
the garage with the doors open, watching the wild life making their way
across our property. In addition to regular visits by deer and rabbits, we
have seen a coyote from time to time as well as a little fox that visits
once or twice a week. The funniest sight is the wild turkeys. They fly,
but not very well. Landings are your basic controlled crash.

Eisboch

"Don White" wrote in message
...
At 5:30 P.M. on Sept. 6, my neighbor, Dr. Jacqueline Perry, was killed
and
her husband severely injured by a black bear. The bear stalked and
killed
her and then mauled her husband as he tried to rescue her. The bear
stalked and leaped upon Jackie as she was near their campfire. Bears
can
become too familiar with people as they equate people with food. They
are
large wild animals and should be left alone as they can kill you very
easily.

Jim


Did this happen in Ontario Jim?
Seems like every year we hear reports out of BC or Alberta about bear
attacks. A Nova Scotia girl was messed up pretty good out there.

Yes Don, this happened in Ontario. It was in a Wilderness Provincial Park,
Missinaibi, and this is the fourth person killed by a Black Bear in this
Province. ( that I can remember.) I do believe a young Olympic hopeful was
killed last year, by a Black Bear, in Quebec. Lots of people are attacked
out west but usually by Grizzlies and they are most often very inexperienced
people. Most that are educated in back country hiking or canoeing know
what to do in case of an encounter by bears. Early this year, my daughter
was canoeing at the same park where my neighbor was killed. My daughter
told me that she never goes into the wilderness without some concern of
bears. She carries a pepper spray to ward them off if they come to close
to her. Also, Black Bears are easily intimidated by "big" people. My
daughter is over 6 feet tall and weighs approx. 175 lb. She knows that
sometimes black bears can be frightened off by the person if the person
stands very tall and holds the canoe paddle high in the air. Note!!!!!
This does not work with a Grizzly.....only Black Bears who are not with cubs
Jim.

One of the dangers of wildlife living in suburbia is when well meaning,
uninformed people go out of the way to feed them, (sounds like your average
democrat ; ) ). This is dangerous for the animals and the homeowners who
leave food scraps for the wildlife. Here is a cut and paste that discusses
the dangers in relation to Coyote.

Coyote Cautions
As humans expand their living areas and coyotes expand their range as well,
contact is inevitable. Most of the time, coyotes go out of their way to
avoid humans, but they are discovering that humans are a good source for
food. Resourceful and adaptable as coyotes are, they will take advantage of
this when they can. In urban areas and in some National Parks the coyotes
are changing their behavior.

The most serious problem is that the animals may become habituated to
people. As they lose their fear of people, they will become bolder in
approaching people and may put themselves in hazardous situations they would
normally avoid.

Coyotes, if fed regularly by people, will come to depend on people for their
food. They won't starve if you stop feeding them, but they will be hungry
and unafraid of people. They can get very aggressive in approaching other
people. Some of the national parks now have coyotes that are begging for
food. Children and adults are being bitten by coyotes in California, Arizona
and other states. The most danger is in urban areas where young coyotes have
learned to steal and beg for food. If they can't find food, then the small
animals in the neighborhood will become their targets to solve their need
for food. Children will also be at risk of being bitten.


Coyotes are not your average dog -- they are not to be messed with. They are
smart, and they learn quickly. They can be dangerous, and when it comes to
urban coyotes, steps should be taken to avoid encouraging them to visit your
neighborhood. That means close garbage can lids tightly, do not leave pet
food outside and do not leave small pets outside unaccompanied.

Coyotes love nothing better than cats and frequently take small dogs. Inform
neighbors of your sighting and encourage them to take steps NOT to attract
the clever little varmints. Remember: Make sure that no pet food is ever
left outdoors.





"Starbuck's" wrote in message news:...
I live in suburbia, and we have a red fox, grey fox and a coyote living in
our area. All the them sharing the same territory, keeping the rabbit
population in check.



"Eisboch" wrote in message
...

thunder wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 10:20:02 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


I haven't seen beaver or coyote or otter in my woods, but I have run
across bear tracks.

You mentioned that you have fox. An outdoorsman I know told me, you can
have fox or coyote, but not both. Apparently, coyote will kill foxes.
Bear are becoming quite common here and are a joy to see, but are a
little
spooky to me. They have never shown any aggression to me, but neither
do
they seem to fear me. I'm not used to that. I prefer wild animals,
especially large wild animals with big teeth, to fear me.

I don't know about that. Mrs. E and I enjoy coffee in the morning sitting
in
the garage with the doors open, watching the wild life making their way
across our property. In addition to regular visits by deer and rabbits,
we
have seen a coyote from time to time as well as a little fox that visits
once or twice a week. The funniest sight is the wild turkeys. They fly,
but not very well. Landings are your basic controlled crash.

Eisboch

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 14:15:39 GMT, Don White
wrote:
Ah..you 'mericans! Where would you be without your guns?
Not at the dinner table.....that's for sure. We had goose on
Thursday.... garlic mashed potatoes and steamed broccoli....
Bought my son his first gun when he was four..... he's a pretty good
marksman, now... as the freezer attests! He just bought a new 12 ga.
for duck and geese, which are just coming into season.
Now, if we could just find an affordable multi-purpose duck boat (for
him) and flats boat (for me).....

Gene, if I find an affordable multi-purpose boat for you, will you promise
to shoot all of them damn geese that mess up my lawn at the marina?

Jim

"thunder" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 13:41:14 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


Don, forgets that we ensured our right to keep and bear arms in our
founding documents.

An armed populace means a government in fear.

Really? That same document ensured our right to "due process of law", but
Bush threw that one out, e.g. Padillo. Or, is the Second Amendment the
only one you care about?

I believe that the order of the amendments in the Bill of Rights are in
order of their importance. Everyone agrees on the first amendment but when
it comes to the second there are quite a few that wish it would just goaway.

Only an idiot would feed them. I say let them be and live their life the
way they are supposed to live.


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:11:12 -0400, "Starbuck's"
wrote:

This is dangerous for the animals and the homeowners who
leave food scraps for the wildlife.

Instead of feeding 'em, I say kill 'em all!!!!

Tom,
It looks like Harry is trying to pull your strings.


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:35:58 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 19:22:48 -0400, "Starbuck's"
wrote:

Only an idiot would feed them. I say let them be and live their life
the
way they are supposed to live.

Exactly - hunt them to extinction as God intended.

Smithers is using you, Tom.

Nobody uses me. I'm the most independent old fart you are ever likely
to meet.

If I choose to answer or reply to anybody, it's because I want to - no
other reason required.

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:29:13 -0400, Bert Robbins wrote:


I believe that the order of the amendments in the Bill of Rights are in
order of their importance. Everyone agrees on the first amendment but when
it comes to the second there are quite a few that wish it would just
goaway.

Not me, I have no problem with the Second Amendment. Personally, I have
very little use for guns, but that is just me. I would disagree about the
order and importance of the Amendments, though. As I age, I am finding a
fondness for the Ninth and Tenth Amendments, especially the people parts.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 18:11:12 -0400, "Starbuck's"
wrote:

This is dangerous for the animals and the homeowners who
leave food scraps for the wildlife.

Instead of feeding 'em, I say kill 'em all!!!!

They keep down the kitty population in the Burbank area.

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 22:43:44 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

At the airport I work at, they have employed a Fed to shoot geese
*and* spray the eggs (rendering them sterile)..... and that doesn't
work all that well, either.

I surprised they didn't try dogs.

Oakland and San Francisco airports have falcons on staff.

*JimH* wrote:
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
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On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:22:01 -0400, thunder
wrote:


On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:03:34 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:



Tom's local geese drink tonic and go candlestick bowling.

Ah, but I can understand his complaining. Any grassy area around here is
definitely a watch your step experience. Somewhere I read that a goose
produces more "waste" per day than a human. Yuck!

Around here, those grassy areas include all the school football and soccer
fields. The kids, especially the female ones, do *not* like sliding over
the
ground through a bunch of goose ****.

We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."


Retention ponds around here are crisscrossed with fishing line just above
the water to keep the geese out.

Beautiful birds but messy and very aggressive.



We've had a lot of luck with these on our beach.

http://www.bugspray.com/catalog/products/page541.html

*JimH* wrote:
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 08:22:01 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Sat, 10 Sep 2005 07:03:34 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:


Tom's local geese drink tonic and go candlestick bowling.

Ah, but I can understand his complaining. Any grassy area around here is
definitely a watch your step experience. Somewhere I read that a goose
produces more "waste" per day than a human. Yuck!

Around here, those grassy areas include all the school football and soccer
fields. The kids, especially the female ones, do *not* like sliding over
the
ground through a bunch of goose ****.

We should be allowed to use our 12 Gauges.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Retention ponds around here are crisscrossed with fishing line just above
the water to keep the geese out.

Beautiful birds but messy and very aggressive.

Why would you worry about keeping them out of nasty retention ponds
that are virtual wastelands because of what the runoff contains?

wrote in message
oups.com...
Why would you worry about keeping them out of nasty retention ponds
that are virtual wastelands because of what the runoff contains?

Kevin,
Wow, I would worry about keeping any wildlife from living in unsanitary,
unhealthy "virtual wastelands". Are you really so jaded that you don't care
about wildlife? You remind me of the kind of person who would place "human
food" out for wildlife to eat, for your own personal enjoyment, even though
you understand it is unhealthy and detrimental to the welfare of wildlife.