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Bryan September 8th 05 07:25 PM


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On 8 Sep 2005 07:20:55 -0700, wrote:

At the very minimum, the structures will need to be torn down to the
studs and inspected.



Unless FEMA swallows the same turd as EPA swallowed when they let this
polluted water be pumped into the lake, they will require all houses
to be 11' above sea level when they are rebuilt or rehabilitated more
than 50% of their worth.

(FEMA is the agency that certifies this)


What polluted water was pumped into what lake?
Are you talking about the flood waters in the city? Those waters are
polluted with human waste due to overwhelming the sewer system and with
animal waste from wherever folks let their pets do their business and dead
rats and mice and ...
I'm confused about your comment about pumping polluted water into the lake.



[email protected] September 8th 05 07:41 PM


Bryan wrote:
wrote in message
...
On 8 Sep 2005 07:20:55 -0700, wrote:

At the very minimum, the structures will need to be torn down to the
studs and inspected.



Unless FEMA swallows the same turd as EPA swallowed when they let this
polluted water be pumped into the lake, they will require all houses
to be 11' above sea level when they are rebuilt or rehabilitated more
than 50% of their worth.

(FEMA is the agency that certifies this)


What polluted water was pumped into what lake?
Are you talking about the flood waters in the city? Those waters are
polluted with human waste due to overwhelming the sewer system and with
animal waste from wherever folks let their pets do their business and dead
rats and mice and ...
I'm confused about your comment about pumping polluted water into the lake.



From the news reports when the levee was repaired with sandbags they

started pumping water from within the levee area into lake Pons....
(spelling?). That water was contaminated with sewage, dead bodies,
chemicals from flooded housing and businesses, gasoline from autos, and
I suppose oil also from cars.

There was some discussion by the television 'experts' of this water
needing to be removed in tanker trucks for 'decontamination'.


Doug Kanter September 8th 05 07:41 PM


"Bryan" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
...
On 8 Sep 2005 07:20:55 -0700, wrote:

At the very minimum, the structures will need to be torn down to the
studs and inspected.



Unless FEMA swallows the same turd as EPA swallowed when they let this
polluted water be pumped into the lake, they will require all houses
to be 11' above sea level when they are rebuilt or rehabilitated more
than 50% of their worth.

(FEMA is the agency that certifies this)


What polluted water was pumped into what lake?
Are you talking about the flood waters in the city? Those waters are
polluted with human waste due to overwhelming the sewer system and with
animal waste from wherever folks let their pets do their business and dead
rats and mice and ...
I'm confused about your comment about pumping polluted water into the
lake.


News is also talking about petroleum mess from lots of different sources.
Use your imagination.



*JimH* September 8th 05 10:34 PM


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oups.com...

Jeff Rigby wrote:
Maybe before the water goes down too much homeowners should be tossing a
bag
of "Pool Shock" into the home and closing the doors and windows. The
chlorine in the pool shock should kill all the bacteria and mold as well
as
deodorize the interior. Wiring would still have to be replaced but it
shouldn't be a hazard for workers to work on the house.

Also, they should turn off the main breaker. In some cases if there is
no
salt in the water drying out could be all that is needed.


At the very minimum, the structures will need to be torn down to the
studs and inspected. The roofing should be OK unless the house was
totally submerged, and in a lot of cases the second floor areas aren't
soaked and could possibly be saved with a serious cleanup.

Once the framing has been exposed and allowed to dry out completely, an
analysis is in order. Any areas of previous rotting will have been
accelerated by standing in water. Any sort of pressboard (subflooring
or siding underlayment, for example) is probably ruined. A lot of
structures will require some attention to the framing and sheathing.
Spraying all of the exposed framing with a strong bleach solution will
help guard against future rot and
also help kill off the "swampy" smell that might otherwise linger in
the wood.

With all the plaster or wallboard down, it would be fairly easy to
rewire. Most plumbing should be OK, but this is a good opportunity to
replace old lead or galvanized pipes.

Homes built with a lot of cypress (a building material more commonly
employed down that way)may fare better than homes buit with mostly pine
or fir. Cypress trees grow directly out of swamps, and the wood is
exceptionally rot resistant in most applications.


Spot on Chuck!



DSK September 9th 05 04:01 AM

Jeff Rigby wrote:
Maybe before the water goes down too much homeowners should be tossing a bag
of "Pool Shock" into the home and closing the doors and windows. The
chlorine in the pool shock should kill all the bacteria and mold as well as
deodorize the interior.


This would help if the house was flooded with clean water to at least as
high a level as it had been with contaminated flood water, and left full
for at least as long as it was flooded. Otherwise there will not be
sufficient time for the chlorine to penetrate every place that has been
contaminated.

The health risk from flooded houses is considerable, a very large number
of flood damaged houses in NC had to be bulldozed completely because of
persistant mold. I know of at least a dozen cases in coastal NC where
the house was sealed up in a giant PVC envelope and gassed, and the mold
spores persisted.

Regards
Doug King


Doug Kanter September 9th 05 10:40 AM

And, that much chlorine comes with its own set of issues.

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Jeff Rigby wrote:
Maybe before the water goes down too much homeowners should be tossing a
bag of "Pool Shock" into the home and closing the doors and windows. The
chlorine in the pool shock should kill all the bacteria and mold as well
as deodorize the interior.


This would help if the house was flooded with clean water to at least as
high a level as it had been with contaminated flood water, and left full
for at least as long as it was flooded. Otherwise there will not be
sufficient time for the chlorine to penetrate every place that has been
contaminated.

The health risk from flooded houses is considerable, a very large number
of flood damaged houses in NC had to be bulldozed completely because of
persistant mold. I know of at least a dozen cases in coastal NC where the
house was sealed up in a giant PVC envelope and gassed, and the mold
spores persisted.

Regards
Doug King





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