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tafflad September 7th 05 09:31 PM

Surprise: Bush stacked FEMA with political pals
 
and exactly what has this to do with rec.boats ?


[email protected] September 8th 05 02:45 AM


tafflad wrote:
and exactly what has this to do with rec.boats ?


It has nothing to do with recreational boats or boating, but it has
been the norm of this group for a long time. You must be new. To find
boating related information on this site you will need to sift through
all the flames, OT political comments (from both left and right),
personal attack threads, etc. Sorry about that, but it's the way it is
and none of the regulars seem to care very much about turning it
around. (Those who once cared mostly gave up and left).

If you hang around, try to start some boating related threads once in a
while. We have several very active posters here who don't even own
boats, but are simply hanging out to throw flaming crapballs at a few
other individuals. Too bad, too.

Best defense is a good offense, and to get more boating content on the
NG more boaty folk need to hold nose and participate. It won't cut down
on the number of "Bush Caused the Hurricane" posts or "All the looters
in New Orleans vote Democrat" posts, but it's a shame when maybe 1 out
of every 5 or 6 threads is actually boating related these days.


Starbucks September 8th 05 03:32 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...
.. We have several very active posters here who don't even own
boats, but are simply hanging out to throw flaming crapballs at a few
other individuals.


Gould,
Now that JimH has purchased a boat, who are the others who don't own a boat?
I know Harry doesn't own a Lobster Boat, but I am pretty sure he owns a
Parker, at least he keeps it parked in his driveway.




[email protected] September 8th 05 07:36 AM


Starbucks wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. We have several very active posters here who don't even own
boats, but are simply hanging out to throw flaming crapballs at a few
other individuals.


Gould,
Now that JimH has purchased a boat, who are the others who don't own a boat?
I know Harry doesn't own a Lobster Boat, but I am pretty sure he owns a
Parker, at least he keeps it parked in his driveway.



I would be surprised to learn that very many of the several people who
never post anything about boats or boating, (yet cannot let a day go by
without either pig piling on a personality- bashing thread or starting
one of their own) actually own a boat. Rather than get all finger
pointy, I will simply float my theory and let you see if anyone comes
to mind that fits the general description. If so, then we agree on a
small issue. If not, then you can think I'm full of horse crap and you
won't be the first to draw such a conclusion. :-)

As far as the specific individual you named, yes he is now once again a
boat owner. I have been impressed by that person's struggle to monitor
and improve his own behavior, and I have been quietly rooting for his
success. I continue to believe that if just a few people (self
included) would modify their behavior in the NG it would take on a
different tone. Rather than disrupt every thread with outrageous
profanity, etc, (as others have done in failed attempts to modify the
NG), the individual you mention has wisely recognized that he cannot
change the group but he can change himself and thereby somewhat alter
the group dynamic for the better.

This week has been tough on everybody.
Remember after the last major disaster, 9-11, how the country pulled
together for at least a little while? (Long enough to give Bush
overwhelming support for the retaliatory strike on Afghanistan and the
alleged hunt for Osama bin Ladin).

I guess we're jaded now. The flood hasn't even drained and all we can
seem to do is argue about whether George Bush caused the flood or
whether all the looters are liberal Democrats. The "anti-liberal"
defensive whine is in high gear over on right wing radio this week, and
there is no shortage of people second guessing everything Bush did or
didn't do in response to the hurricane. The terrorists don't have to
lift a finger, we're going to destroy this country all by ourselves
with hatred and negativity (from both sides of the fence). A look at
the f'd up NG is a microcosm of what the country is rapidly becoming,
and the folks (of all political persuasions) who live by the creed, "If
you can't say something truly negative, mean, and nasty don't say
anything at all" are leading way.


Starbucks September 8th 05 08:23 AM

Chuck,

I couldn't agree more. When I saw all the political finger pointing and
name calling the day of the disaster, it turned my stomach. I decided it
was time to take a week off from work and especially this NG, and try to do
something to help. It was very easy to find a charity working with the
refugees who needed help. I don't know how much good I was able to do, but
I know I felt better for trying.

My original question was who are the non boaters in the NG whose sole
purpose is to throw crapballs at each other, but after reading your post, it
might be easier to ask who are the active posters in rec.boats who don't
throw flaming crapballs at others?




wrote in message
oups.com...

Starbucks wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...
. We have several very active posters here who don't even own
boats, but are simply hanging out to throw flaming crapballs at a few
other individuals.


Gould,
Now that JimH has purchased a boat, who are the others who don't own a
boat?
I know Harry doesn't own a Lobster Boat, but I am pretty sure he owns a
Parker, at least he keeps it parked in his driveway.



I would be surprised to learn that very many of the several people who
never post anything about boats or boating, (yet cannot let a day go by
without either pig piling on a personality- bashing thread or starting
one of their own) actually own a boat. Rather than get all finger
pointy, I will simply float my theory and let you see if anyone comes
to mind that fits the general description. If so, then we agree on a
small issue. If not, then you can think I'm full of horse crap and you
won't be the first to draw such a conclusion. :-)

As far as the specific individual you named, yes he is now once again a
boat owner. I have been impressed by that person's struggle to monitor
and improve his own behavior, and I have been quietly rooting for his
success. I continue to believe that if just a few people (self
included) would modify their behavior in the NG it would take on a
different tone. Rather than disrupt every thread with outrageous
profanity, etc, (as others have done in failed attempts to modify the
NG), the individual you mention has wisely recognized that he cannot
change the group but he can change himself and thereby somewhat alter
the group dynamic for the better.

This week has been tough on everybody.
Remember after the last major disaster, 9-11, how the country pulled
together for at least a little while? (Long enough to give Bush
overwhelming support for the retaliatory strike on Afghanistan and the
alleged hunt for Osama bin Ladin).

I guess we're jaded now. The flood hasn't even drained and all we can
seem to do is argue about whether George Bush caused the flood or
whether all the looters are liberal Democrats. The "anti-liberal"
defensive whine is in high gear over on right wing radio this week, and
there is no shortage of people second guessing everything Bush did or
didn't do in response to the hurricane. The terrorists don't have to
lift a finger, we're going to destroy this country all by ourselves
with hatred and negativity (from both sides of the fence). A look at
the f'd up NG is a microcosm of what the country is rapidly becoming,
and the folks (of all political persuasions) who live by the creed, "If
you can't say something truly negative, mean, and nasty don't say
anything at all" are leading way.




[email protected] September 8th 05 12:29 PM


Starbucks wrote:

Now that JimH has purchased a boat, who are the others who don't own a boat?
I know Harry doesn't own a Lobster Boat, but I am pretty sure he owns a
Parker, at least he keeps it parked in his driveway.


Please show how you "know", for a fact, whether or not Harry owns a
lobster boat. Do you have any facts, or is it just your speculation?


Starbucks September 8th 05 02:49 PM

Basskisser,
Does Harry own a Lobster Boat?


wrote in message
ups.com...

Starbucks wrote:

Now that JimH has purchased a boat, who are the others who don't own a
boat?
I know Harry doesn't own a Lobster Boat, but I am pretty sure he owns a
Parker, at least he keeps it parked in his driveway.


Please show how you "know", for a fact, whether or not Harry owns a
lobster boat. Do you have any facts, or is it just your speculation?




[email protected] September 8th 05 04:05 PM


Harry Krause wrote:

Last week the p.o.s. known as Smithers said he was leaving this
newsgroup. I suppose his obsession with me wouldn't let him. Either
that, or the sheep turned him down.


And JimH has proclaimed on at LEAST three different times that he was
quitting off-topic posting, lying, etc. He's also proclaimed more than
once that he'd quit being a ass to others.


Don White September 8th 05 05:55 PM

wrote:
Harry Krause wrote:


Last week the p.o.s. known as Smithers said he was leaving this
newsgroup. I suppose his obsession with me wouldn't let him. Either
that, or the sheep turned him down.



And JimH has proclaimed on at LEAST three different times that he was
quitting off-topic posting, lying, etc. He's also proclaimed more than
once that he'd quit being a ass to others.


He can't change who he is anymore than a zebra can change it's stripes.
You are what you are!

Starbucks September 8th 05 06:44 PM


"Harry Krause" wrote in message Might be
worthwhile to submit their IDs to Symantec so they can appear
on the Norton Antivirus list. Of course, that doesn't work for newsgroups.


LOL, Harry you need to update your Antivirus, mine works in Newsgroups.




PocoLoco September 8th 05 08:32 PM

On 8 Sep 2005 08:05:17 -0700, wrote:


Harry Krause wrote:

Last week the p.o.s. known as Smithers said he was leaving this
newsgroup. I suppose his obsession with me wouldn't let him. Either
that, or the sheep turned him down.


And JimH has proclaimed on at LEAST three different times that he was
quitting off-topic posting, lying, etc. He's also proclaimed more than
once that he'd quit being a ass to others.


And you've proclaimed on several more that you were the owner of a motorcycle
that was never made!

How can you possibly come down on someone else's proclamations?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

*JimH* September 8th 05 08:36 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:

Last week the p.o.s. known as Smithers said he was leaving this
newsgroup. I suppose his obsession with me wouldn't let him. Either
that, or the sheep turned him down.


And JimH has proclaimed on at LEAST three different times that he was
quitting off-topic posting, lying, etc. He's also proclaimed more than
once that he'd quit being a ass to others.


And I have quit OT posting for the most part.

And I am being an ass to others? Could you post some proof of that Kevin?

No when are you going to stop the name calling, foul language and personal
attacks?

Do you even own a boat Kevin? If so, tell us about it and post a picture of
it.



[email protected] September 8th 05 08:52 PM


*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:

Last week the p.o.s. known as Smithers said he was leaving this
newsgroup. I suppose his obsession with me wouldn't let him. Either
that, or the sheep turned him down.


And JimH has proclaimed on at LEAST three different times that he was
quitting off-topic posting, lying, etc. He's also proclaimed more than
once that he'd quit being a ass to others.


And I have quit OT posting for the most part.


Oh, then what do these, sorted by date have to do with boats?

OT: A Silver Lining
Harry, What did you mean when you said : A Silver Lining to the
hurricane
devastation and suffering is that it will hurt Bush. Since ...
rec.boats - Sep 8, 6:10 pm by *JimH* - 11 messages - 6 authors

Shocker! Fox News Reports BAD News!!!
PoorHARRYKRAUSE / SEAN O'FARRELL / JOE BLTSFK / STILLANON. Time to come
up
with a new user name. http://www.talkaboutboats.com/group ...
rec.boats - Sep 8, 4:43 pm by *JimH* - 7 messages - 4 authors

Another interesting article
Extract: "Mr. Bush met privately first with Mrs. Blanco, then called
Mr. Nagin
in for a meeting. "He called me in that office," Mr. Nagin said. ...
rec.boats - Sep 8, 4:07 pm by *JimH* - 3 messages - 3 authors

OT--The Man with the plan
JohnH, There is lots of blame to spread around to all governmental
agencies.
The section of the levee that broke, was one of the ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 8:36 pm by *JimH* - 26 messages - 8 authors

Just back from SoCal and boating.
Welcome back Bill. Glad to hear you had a good time. Went to San Diego
for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach area. ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 8:31 pm by *JimH* - 18 messages - 5 authors

Oh Canada............
If that is indeed the figure, then my hat is off to the Canadian
people.
I must say, the response from other countries has been ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 1:47 pm by *JimH* - 42 messages - 14 authors

Is Dick Cheney...
Your stupidity is shining brightly. This from one who proclaimed
himself the
proud former owner of a motorcycle which was never even made?? ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 11:05 am by *JimH* - 15 messages - 8 authors

Red Cross strikes again
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:52:37 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing On Tue, 06 Sep
2005
20:32:14 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:42:56 -0400,
"*JimH ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 11:32 pm by *JimH* - 12 messages - 4 authors

OT: Apple, tree, far from
It is Bush Derangement Syndrome that they are suffering from. Well,
Bush
certainly IS deranged. I'll bet he doesn't go around bragging ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 9:23 pm by *JimH* - 19 messages - 8 authors

Just for Krause
Harry, I filtered you so I wouldn't be distracted by your drivel.
Please
don't email me any more. It defeats the purpose of the filter. ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 8:35 pm by *JimH* - 25 messages - 9 authors

Well ain't that just something?
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy,
sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 11:36 pm by *JimH* - 24 messages - 10 authors

Ping - Don White/Doug King
Hey guy - help a brother out?
http://www.swsports.org/images/LadyLiz/P1010001.
JPG The above picture is some rigging on the starboard ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 10:30 pm by *JimH* - 7 messages - 3 authors

OT: File under "You can't make this up"
'Oscar-winning Hollywood actor Sean Penn, who has been assisting rescue
efforts
in New Orleans, said the US government did not "seem to be inclined to
help". ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 10:07 pm by *JimH* - 4 messages - 3 authors

OT: The constant blame game is getting old folks
Face it, every level of government screwed up with Katrina. The mayor,
the governor,
FEMA, the Homeland Security Department and the President *all* screwed
up. ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 10:01 pm by *JimH* - 2 messages - 1 author

The Future of Lake Pontchartrain...waste dump?
A huge shallow brackish lake.....41 miles x 25 miles. The lake was
reportedly
in a recovery mode from previous pollution problems. ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 8:41 pm by *JimH* - 4 messages - 2 authors

You know it is bad when....
..... Homeland Security commandeers airport buildings (for processing)
800 miles from NO.... including closing colleges..... _ ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 3:48 pm by *JimH* - 1 message - 1 author


And I am being an ass to others? Could you post some proof of that Kevin?


Yes, I can.

JimH wrote: Those dirty greedy hateful *******s!

Krause just hates it when someone reports having a fantastic time on
their
boat....

Idiot? Indeed you are Krause, and a pathetic one at that

That sock puppet of his, coincidentally, is the only one ever seeing
this
boat.


The guy is mental

Need more?


No when are you going to stop the name calling, foul language and personal
attacks?


Probably never, why do you ask?

Do you even own a boat Kevin? If so, tell us about it and post a picture of
it.


I'm not Kevin.


*JimH* September 8th 05 09:03 PM


wrote in message
ups.com...

*JimH* wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:

Last week the p.o.s. known as Smithers said he was leaving this
newsgroup. I suppose his obsession with me wouldn't let him. Either
that, or the sheep turned him down.


And JimH has proclaimed on at LEAST three different times that he was
quitting off-topic posting, lying, etc. He's also proclaimed more than
once that he'd quit being a ass to others.


And I have quit OT posting for the most part.


Oh, then what do these, sorted by date have to do with boats?

OT: A Silver Lining
Harry, What did you mean when you said : A Silver Lining to the
hurricane
devastation and suffering is that it will hurt Bush. Since ...
rec.boats - Sep 8, 6:10 pm by *JimH* - 11 messages - 6 authors

Shocker! Fox News Reports BAD News!!!
PoorHARRYKRAUSE / SEAN O'FARRELL / JOE BLTSFK / STILLANON. Time to come
up
with a new user name. http://www.talkaboutboats.com/group ...
rec.boats - Sep 8, 4:43 pm by *JimH* - 7 messages - 4 authors

Another interesting article
Extract: "Mr. Bush met privately first with Mrs. Blanco, then called
Mr. Nagin
in for a meeting. "He called me in that office," Mr. Nagin said. ...
rec.boats - Sep 8, 4:07 pm by *JimH* - 3 messages - 3 authors

OT--The Man with the plan
JohnH, There is lots of blame to spread around to all governmental
agencies.
The section of the levee that broke, was one of the ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 8:36 pm by *JimH* - 26 messages - 8 authors

Just back from SoCal and boating.
Welcome back Bill. Glad to hear you had a good time. Went to San Diego
for a week with stops at the daughters in Long Beach area. ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 8:31 pm by *JimH* - 18 messages - 5 authors

Oh Canada............
If that is indeed the figure, then my hat is off to the Canadian
people.
I must say, the response from other countries has been ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 1:47 pm by *JimH* - 42 messages - 14 authors

Is Dick Cheney...
Your stupidity is shining brightly. This from one who proclaimed
himself the
proud former owner of a motorcycle which was never even made?? ...
rec.boats - Sep 7, 11:05 am by *JimH* - 15 messages - 8 authors

Red Cross strikes again
On Tue, 06 Sep 2005 22:52:37 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing On Tue, 06 Sep
2005
20:32:14 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:42:56 -0400,
"*JimH ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 11:32 pm by *JimH* - 12 messages - 4 authors

OT: Apple, tree, far from
It is Bush Derangement Syndrome that they are suffering from. Well,
Bush
certainly IS deranged. I'll bet he doesn't go around bragging ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 9:23 pm by *JimH* - 19 messages - 8 authors

Just for Krause
Harry, I filtered you so I wouldn't be distracted by your drivel.
Please
don't email me any more. It defeats the purpose of the filter. ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 8:35 pm by *JimH* - 25 messages - 9 authors

Well ain't that just something?
Waddya know?!?! That heartless, ruthless, cut-throat, capitalistic,
slimy,
sleazy, underhanded, abusive, lying, cheating oppressor ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 11:36 pm by *JimH* - 24 messages - 10 authors

Ping - Don White/Doug King
Hey guy - help a brother out?
http://www.swsports.org/images/LadyLiz/P1010001.
JPG The above picture is some rigging on the starboard ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 10:30 pm by *JimH* - 7 messages - 3 authors

OT: File under "You can't make this up"
'Oscar-winning Hollywood actor Sean Penn, who has been assisting rescue
efforts
in New Orleans, said the US government did not "seem to be inclined to
help". ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 10:07 pm by *JimH* - 4 messages - 3 authors

OT: The constant blame game is getting old folks
Face it, every level of government screwed up with Katrina. The mayor,
the governor,
FEMA, the Homeland Security Department and the President *all* screwed
up. ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 10:01 pm by *JimH* - 2 messages - 1 author

The Future of Lake Pontchartrain...waste dump?
A huge shallow brackish lake.....41 miles x 25 miles. The lake was
reportedly
in a recovery mode from previous pollution problems. ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 8:41 pm by *JimH* - 4 messages - 2 authors

You know it is bad when....
.... Homeland Security commandeers airport buildings (for processing)
800 miles from NO.... including closing colleges..... _ ...
rec.boats - Sep 6, 3:48 pm by *JimH* - 1 message - 1 author


First I never promised to stop posting OT. And yes, this catastrophe has
brought out of few from me.

So lets compare on topic to off topic posts.

Oh, I forgot, you don't contribute any on topic posts.



And I am being an ass to others? Could you post some proof of that
Kevin?


Yes, I can.

JimH wrote: Those dirty greedy hateful *******s!


Taken completely out of context....it was a joke, one you obviously did not
get.



Krause just hates it when someone reports having a fantastic time on
their
boat....


That is name calling?



Idiot? Indeed you are Krause, and a pathetic one at that.


Yes, he indeed is.


That sock puppet of his, coincidentally, is the only one ever seeing
this
boat.


That is name calling??



The guy is mental


Yes he is.



Need more?


Sure.




Now when are you going to stop the name calling, foul language and
personal
attacks?


Probably never, why do you ask?



You are not going to stop? I figured as much.

Pretty pathetic Kevin.



Do you even own a boat Kevin? If so, tell us about it and post a picture
of
it.


I'm not Kevin.


And obviously without a boat also.



PocoLoco September 8th 05 09:15 PM

On 8 Sep 2005 12:52:09 -0700, wrote:


PoorHARRYKRAUSE / SEAN O'FARRELL / JOE BLTSFK / STILLANON. Time to come
up
with a new user name.
http://www.talkaboutboats.com/group ...
rec.boats - Sep 8, 4:43 pm by *JimH* - 7 messages - 4 authors


Damn!

Here I was hoping to see a picture of that Moto Guzzi 'Desmo' you were so
proudly talking about.

Why do you come down on others for bad behavior?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

P. Fritz September 9th 05 01:18 PM


"*JimH*" wrote in message
...

wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:

Last week the p.o.s. known as Smithers said he was leaving this
newsgroup. I suppose his obsession with me wouldn't let him. Either
that, or the sheep turned him down.


And JimH has proclaimed on at LEAST three different times that he was
quitting off-topic posting, lying, etc. He's also proclaimed more than
once that he'd quit being a ass to others.


And I have quit OT posting for the most part.

And I am being an ass to others? Could you post some proof of that

Kevin?

No when are you going to stop the name calling, foul language and

personal
attacks?

Do you even own a boat Kevin? If so, tell us about it and post a

picture of
it.


Remember JimH, liebrals are allowed to do the things that they whine
about others doing. ;-)







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