Superb graphics and photos of SE Devastation
 

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces, boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:22:43 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces, boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.


The mighty US military should have the ability to land massive amounts
of materiel and food with amphibious vehicles.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the failures
of your party's president.

God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we could have
rounded up enough landing craft from the Marines at Camp Pendleton to do the job
in about 5 hours? Where would they land, Harry? Oh, the ports are gone? Well,
how about on the nice sandy beaches? Oh, they're gone too? Well, maybe they
could just drive up on the under water roads? Oh, they're full of trash and too
deep to drive trucks through?

Harry, get your head out of your ass for a change.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:31:33 -0400, PocoLoco wrote:

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:22:43 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces, boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.


The mighty US military should have the ability to land massive amounts
of materiel and food with amphibious vehicles.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the failures
of your party's president.

God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we could have
rounded up enough landing craft from the Marines at Camp Pendleton to do the job
in about 5 hours? Where would they land, Harry? Oh, the ports are gone? Well,
how about on the nice sandy beaches? Oh, they're gone too? Well, maybe they
could just drive up on the under water roads? Oh, they're full of trash and too
deep to drive trucks through?

Harry, get your head out of your ass for a change.

PS. Back you go. You're not worth much, Harry. Give us some more stories about
your aid to New Orleans!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:31:33 -0400, PocoLoco
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:22:43 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes
and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces,
boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.


The mighty US military should have the ability to land massive amounts
of materiel and food with amphibious vehicles.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the failures
of your party's president.

God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we could
have
rounded up enough landing craft from the Marines at Camp Pendleton to do
the job
in about 5 hours? Where would they land, Harry? Oh, the ports are gone?
Well,
how about on the nice sandy beaches? Oh, they're gone too? Well, maybe
they
could just drive up on the under water roads? Oh, they're full of trash
and too
deep to drive trucks through?

Harry, get your head out of your ass for a change.

PS. Back you go. You're not worth much, Harry. Give us some more stories
about
your aid to New Orleans!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Smart move.

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:40:57 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:22:43 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o
I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces, boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.

The mighty US military should have the ability to land massive amounts
of materiel and food with amphibious vehicles.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the failures
of your party's president.

God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we could have
rounded up enough landing craft from the Marines at Camp Pendleton to do the job
in about 5 hours? Where would they land, Harry? Oh, the ports are gone? Well,
how about on the nice sandy beaches? Oh, they're gone too? Well, maybe they
could just drive up on the under water roads? Oh, they're full of trash and too
deep to drive trucks through?

Harry, get your head out of your ass for a change.


WE have small, medium and large amphibious craft in our military. Some
of them are small enough to be trucked, or even dropped from copters.

Ever seen one of these, Herring?

http://tinyurl.com/9upj7

Do you, in your wildest dreams, believe those are air dropable on other than a
large pallet? Do you believe, even for a moment, that they are air dropable full
of food? Can you imagine a C-130 shoving one of those out it's ass end over New
Orleans? Do you think there's even a remote chance it would be useable after
hitting the Hilton Hotel?

As I said, Harry, get your head out. You know absolutely nothing about military
capabilities.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 19:44:30 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:31:33 -0400, PocoLoco
wrote:

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:22:43 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes
and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces,
boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.


The mighty US military should have the ability to land massive amounts
of materiel and food with amphibious vehicles.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the failures
of your party's president.

God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we could
have
rounded up enough landing craft from the Marines at Camp Pendleton to do
the job
in about 5 hours? Where would they land, Harry? Oh, the ports are gone?
Well,
how about on the nice sandy beaches? Oh, they're gone too? Well, maybe
they
could just drive up on the under water roads? Oh, they're full of trash
and too
deep to drive trucks through?

Harry, get your head out of your ass for a change.

PS. Back you go. You're not worth much, Harry. Give us some more stories
about
your aid to New Orleans!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Smart move.


Couldn't do it. There may be a small, small minority who actually still think he
has some sense.

They may not have heard of the fabled Christmas Goose.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:04:15 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:40:57 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:22:43 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o
I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces, boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.
The mighty US military should have the ability to land massive amounts
of materiel and food with amphibious vehicles.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the failures
of your party's president.
God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we could have
rounded up enough landing craft from the Marines at Camp Pendleton to do the job
in about 5 hours? Where would they land, Harry? Oh, the ports are gone? Well,
how about on the nice sandy beaches? Oh, they're gone too? Well, maybe they
could just drive up on the under water roads? Oh, they're full of trash and too
deep to drive trucks through?

Harry, get your head out of your ass for a change.

WE have small, medium and large amphibious craft in our military. Some
of them are small enough to be trucked, or even dropped from copters.

Ever seen one of these, Herring?

http://tinyurl.com/9upj7

Do you, in your wildest dreams, believe those are air dropable on other than a
large pallet? Do you believe, even for a moment, that they are air dropable full
of food? Can you imagine a C-130 shoving one of those out it's ass end over New
Orleans? Do you think there's even a remote chance it would be useable after
hitting the Hilton Hotel?

As I said, Harry, get your head out. You know absolutely nothing about military
capabilities.


By droppable, Herring, I don't mean slammed down. I mean dropped into
the water from a couple of feet.
There's no shortage of launch sites in NO.
And since they are amphibs, they can be driven to the water.

You must have been one hell of a soldier. Was your answer always, "No,
we can't do that!"?

Are you one of the reasons why we lost in Vietnam?

And just what is supposed to do that, Harry? Can a CH-47 haul one of those?
Loaded with food and water and security? Maybe we could clear out all the Coast
Guard and Army rescue helicopters and bring in a few CH-54's? Then, of course,
you'd be whining that people were dying because the rescue activity had stopped.

You still have the problem of where to put them, but we wouldn't want to get too
practical.

Head, anal orifice, remove?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 21:04:15 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:40:57 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 19:22:43 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

PocoLoco wrote:
On Fri, 02 Sep 2005 15:57:06 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:

The NY Times has some superb photos and graphics of the coastal
situation in the Southeast.

http://tinyurl.com/9e47o
I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply)
routes and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces,
boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.
The mighty US military should have the ability to land massive
amounts
of materiel and food with amphibious vehicles.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the
failures
of your party's president.
God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we
could have
rounded up enough landing craft from the Marines at Camp Pendleton to
do the job
in about 5 hours? Where would they land, Harry? Oh, the ports are
gone? Well,
how about on the nice sandy beaches? Oh, they're gone too? Well, maybe
they
could just drive up on the under water roads? Oh, they're full of
trash and too
deep to drive trucks through?

Harry, get your head out of your ass for a change.

WE have small, medium and large amphibious craft in our military. Some
of them are small enough to be trucked, or even dropped from copters.

Ever seen one of these, Herring?

http://tinyurl.com/9upj7

Do you, in your wildest dreams, believe those are air dropable on other
than a
large pallet? Do you believe, even for a moment, that they are air
dropable full
of food? Can you imagine a C-130 shoving one of those out it's ass end
over New
Orleans? Do you think there's even a remote chance it would be useable
after
hitting the Hilton Hotel?

As I said, Harry, get your head out. You know absolutely nothing about
military
capabilities.


By droppable, Herring, I don't mean slammed down. I mean dropped into
the water from a couple of feet.
There's no shortage of launch sites in NO.
And since they are amphibs, they can be driven to the water.

You must have been one hell of a soldier. Was your answer always, "No,
we can't do that!"?

Are you one of the reasons why we lost in Vietnam?

And just what is supposed to do that, Harry? Can a CH-47 haul one of
those?
Loaded with food and water and security? Maybe we could clear out all the
Coast
Guard and Army rescue helicopters and bring in a few CH-54's? Then, of
course,
you'd be whining that people were dying because the rescue activity had
stopped.

You still have the problem of where to put them, but we wouldn't want to
get too
practical.

Head, anal orifice, remove?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

Droppable into feces ridden, rotten 5 to 10 feet deep water.

That was the Governors answer also.

Brilliant.

Krause joins the Governor of Louisiana and the Mayor of New Orleans .....all
incompetent..........none have a clue.

On Fri, 2 Sep 2005 19:17:31 -0700, John Sobieski
] wrote:

On Fri, 02 Sep 2005, PocoLoco wrote:

Snipped to suit my personal opinions.

I wonder what it is like to constantly have to rationalize the failures
of your party's president.
God, I should have left you filtered!

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry? Do you think we
could have
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."




" God, I should have left you filtered!"

Yup! I did, no regrets. Along with others, made this group enjoyable to
read.

Do you expect maybe an Omaha Beach landing, Harry?

My father was there. God rest his soul. Harry is out of his mind. No idea
of the years of preplanning that went into it. Rome wasn't built in a day
and Omaha Beach wasn't readied in a day.

Maybe Harry has had a little too much of something John. Psychedelic
illegal pharmaceudicals?

Sorry, no sympathy for him.


Regards,
SOB

Amen.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes
and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces,
boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.

Nobody said it was easy. But they're airlifting 2 ton sandbags by
helicopter. I wonder if 2 tons of food weighs more than 2 tons of sand.
Perhaps someone can shed some light on this.

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 12:03:27 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"PocoLoco" wrote in message
.. .

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes
and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces,
boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.

Nobody said it was easy. But they're airlifting 2 ton sandbags by
helicopter. I wonder if 2 tons of food weighs more than 2 tons of sand.
Perhaps someone can shed some light on this.

Maybe one day we'll learn who established the priorities for helicopter airlift
and why they were established. In the meantime I suppose it's OK to bash Bush.
God knows, the local government wouldn't have any responsibilities in relief
operations.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 08:19:39 -0400, Harry Krause wrote:

Doug Kanter wrote:
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes
and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces,
boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.

Nobody said it was easy. But they're airlifting 2 ton sandbags by
helicopter. I wonder if 2 tons of food weighs more than 2 tons of sand.
Perhaps someone can shed some light on this.




There were plenty of ways to get supplies to those who needed them in
NO. The Bush Administration has once again demonstrated its inability to
focus and handle a major league crisis.

Oh, is the Bush administration in charge in New Orleans. Yesterday Rice was
questioned about whether or not the federal government was going to take over
the operation. Her answer was that it was 'under discussion'.

Does that ignorant klutz of a mayor appear to one to step aside and let someone
with some sense take over?
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

On Sat, 03 Sep 2005 14:01:20 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:



Did the Feds fall on their faces during this? Perhaps, but I think it was
more a combination of factors. And let's face it - it's only been since
Tuesday at 11:30 AM in the morning when the 17th street levee failed. It
wasn't even reported on the news until 1 PM EST.

That's only four days since the beginning of the disaster.

I have to agree. When you see all the suffering, you want it to be over
yesterday, but this is immense and it's not just New Orleans. I was in S.
Florida, shortly after Andrew. What struck me was the simple things. The
locals were getting lost because the landscape had changed so much, forget
street signs. I can't imagine the difficulty in accessing a urban lake.
Tensions are high and things may not be going smoothly, but I guarantee
it's not for lack of effort. No one down there is dragging their feet.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...

I hope some folks check out the evacuation (and inbound supply) routes
and
realize why getting all the food, water, equipment, security forces,
boats,
etc., may have been somewhat difficult.

Nobody said it was easy. But they're airlifting 2 ton sandbags by
helicopter. I wonder if 2 tons of food weighs more than 2 tons of sand.
Perhaps someone can shed some light on this.


There were plenty of ways to get supplies to those who needed them in NO.
The Bush Administration has once again demonstrated its inability to focus
and handle a major league crisis.

In all fairness (and this makes me cringe), Rove *did* have the moron stand
up and say (yesterday or the day before) that he wasn't satisfied with the
response.