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David J. August 30th 05 06:48 PM

Newbie Question
 
This is probably a stupid question.... So forgive me I know almost nothing
about boats.

What kind of boat would be needed if you wanted to go to the ocean. I
assume that with the waves you would need a larger boat.

David



Peter Aitken August 30th 05 06:59 PM

"David J." wrote in message
.com...
This is probably a stupid question.... So forgive me I know almost
nothing
about boats.

What kind of boat would be needed if you wanted to go to the ocean. I
assume that with the waves you would need a larger boat.

David


There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

It all depends. You can go in the ocean with a 16 foot boat if you stay near
shore and venture out only on calm days. As the boat size increases your
options do too. You can go further out and go out in rougher weather.

Peter Aitken



Don White August 30th 05 07:07 PM

Peter Aitken wrote:
"David J." wrote in message
.com...

This is probably a stupid question.... So forgive me I know almost
nothing
about boats.

What kind of boat would be needed if you wanted to go to the ocean. I
assume that with the waves you would need a larger boat.

David



There are no stupid questions, only stupid answers.

It all depends. You can go in the ocean with a 16 foot boat if you stay near
shore and venture out only on calm days. As the boat size increases your
options do too. You can go further out and go out in rougher weather.

Peter Aitken


That's right. Most coastal areas have sheltered coves & bays where you
can enjoy sailing with a modest sized boat. With my 18.5 foot
mini-cruiser I'd stay within sight of land...unless it was a calm day.

Gary August 31st 05 12:36 AM

But if you are talking to your Wife, "anything under 26 feet is just
plain unsafe".

Tell her I told you and that I am an unimpeachable source.

Cheers,

Gary


*JimH* August 31st 05 01:26 AM


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On 30 Aug 2005 16:36:19 -0700, "Gary" wrote:

But if you are talking to your Wife, "anything under 26 feet is just
plain unsafe".

Tell her I told you and that I am an unimpeachable source.


Actually, Gary has no idea what he is talking about and I think there
is some Coast Guard regulation requiring greater than 32.35 feet.
Also, common decency requires a head, really large berth(playpen for
you landlubbers), and shower. Fishing amenities are a requirement as
is a large cooler and/or wet bar.

Your greatest hurdle, at this point, is explaining to her that "this
much is a foot" does not apply to marine appurtenances....

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I agree Gene. We have no idea of the *type*of boating he plans. (can you
elaborate David?) So for one to say that anything less than a 26 footer
for use on the ocean is a bit absurd.



[email protected] August 31st 05 01:36 AM


David J. wrote:
This is probably a stupid question.... So forgive me I know almost nothing
about boats.

What kind of boat would be needed if you wanted to go to the ocean. I
assume that with the waves you would need a larger boat.

David


People have done ocean crossings in sail boats as small as 16 feet from
what I have read. I personally would not suggest it, I found 30 to 60
foot sail to be good.

As other posters have commented there are a lot more questions than
answers.

Do you want sail , power or both ?
Short excursions of less than a day or ocean crossing trips , perhaps
cruising for a few days at a time ?
Do you want comforts like a flush toilet or can you manage with less ?


PocoLoco August 31st 05 02:18 AM

On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 20:26:54 -0400, "*JimH*" wrote:


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On 30 Aug 2005 16:36:19 -0700, "Gary" wrote:

But if you are talking to your Wife, "anything under 26 feet is just
plain unsafe".

Tell her I told you and that I am an unimpeachable source.


Actually, Gary has no idea what he is talking about and I think there
is some Coast Guard regulation requiring greater than 32.35 feet.
Also, common decency requires a head, really large berth(playpen for
you landlubbers), and shower. Fishing amenities are a requirement as
is a large cooler and/or wet bar.

Your greatest hurdle, at this point, is explaining to her that "this
much is a foot" does not apply to marine appurtenances....

--

_ ___c
\ _| \_
__\_| oooo \_____
~~~~|______________/ ~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~~
~~~ ~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~
~~~~ }((((o ~~~~~~ }{{{{o ~~~~~~~

Grady-White Gulfstream, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/
Homepage*
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats
Rec.boats at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide


I agree Gene. We have no idea of the *type*of boating he plans. (can you
elaborate David?) So for one to say that anything less than a 26 footer
for use on the ocean is a bit absurd.


I think the 'under 26 feet' remark was supposed to be a joke. At least, that's
the way I took it!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

PocoLoco August 31st 05 02:19 AM

On 30 Aug 2005 17:36:45 -0700, wrote:


David J. wrote:
This is probably a stupid question.... So forgive me I know almost nothing
about boats.

What kind of boat would be needed if you wanted to go to the ocean. I
assume that with the waves you would need a larger boat.

David


People have done ocean crossings in sail boats as small as 16 feet from
what I have read. I personally would not suggest it, I found 30 to 60
foot sail to be good.

As other posters have commented there are a lot more questions than
answers.

Do you want sail , power or both ?
Short excursions of less than a day or ocean crossing trips , perhaps
cruising for a few days at a time ?
Do you want comforts like a flush toilet or can you manage with less ?


If I remember correctly, krause's dad crossed the ocean in something like a
15'er, and had the New York fire department boats giving him a water show when
he arrived from Europe.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

JR North August 31st 05 03:22 AM

A '92 Buick Roadmaster is a good boat to go to the ocean in. Once there,
drive it in.
JR

David J. wrote:
This is probably a stupid question.... So forgive me I know almost nothing
about boats.

What kind of boat would be needed if you wanted to go to the ocean. I
assume that with the waves you would need a larger boat.

David




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Mike G September 5th 05 02:52 PM

In article ,
says...
This is probably a stupid question.... So forgive me I know almost nothing
about boats.

What kind of boat would be needed if you wanted to go to the ocean. I
assume that with the waves you would need a larger boat.

David





Mostly it depends on what you want to do with the boat, cruise, fish,
overnights, etc. Then there is what you mean by go to the ocean. Are you
talking bays and close inshore, blue water. Optimum weather conditions,
moderate, or, able to handle anything but the most sever conditions.

The question of how and where the boat is going to be kept arises also.
Does it have to be trailer able, will you be mooring/docking it, marina
dry storage?

Then, of course, there is some combination of the above.


In other words there are any number of configurations and sizes of boats
that can be used on the ocean from fifty foot yachts down to an eight
foot row boat. It all depends on what your personal requirements are.

--
Mike G.
Heirloom Woods

www.heirloom-woods.net


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