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Bryan August 25th 05 10:10 PM

Tree-filled Reservoirs and Fish Finders
 
I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees and
rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor into
a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode everytime I
drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan



Doug Kanter August 25th 05 10:17 PM

Thanks. Now you have ME worried, since I'll be fishing in such a lake in 3
weeks. It's not like I didn't have enough to think about, ya know?

Fish finders are fascinating because of their ability to *sometimes* find
fish, and to remind you that no matter how much technocrap you put on your
boat, fishing is still very much a random thing. There are places where fish
will park 9 times out of 10, but sometimes....not, and who the hell knows
why? Other times, the device does nothing but let you see all the fish that
you cannot catch on a certain day. Frustrating, until you remember that your
main purpose in being there is not to catch fish, but to have a beer and try
to convince your significant other to remove her clothes.

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .
I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees and
rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor
into a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode
everytime I drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan




Gorf August 25th 05 10:44 PM


"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .
I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees

and
rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor

into
a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode everytime

I
drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan



It really depends on your fish finder and how good you are at reading
it..... Finding fish can be tricky, but finding structure is not all that
difficult. You can find drop offs, points and rock piles. I have an
older Humingbird and you can generally tell what type of bottom is down
there and if there are big trees.
A buddy of mine has an older more expensive brand and he can read his even
better, but it looks like junk to me.
It takes practice.

The lake I boat on is a flood control lake so the water level fluctuates.
When the water starts to get low I will not go on the lake without a fish
finder.




Bryan August 25th 05 10:47 PM

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .
I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees
and rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor
into a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode
everytime I drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Thanks. Now you have ME worried, since I'll be fishing in such a lake in 3
weeks. It's not like I didn't have enough to think about, ya know?

Fish finders are fascinating because of their ability to *sometimes* find
fish, and to remind you that no matter how much technocrap you put on your
boat, fishing is still very much a random thing. There are places where
fish will park 9 times out of 10, but sometimes....not, and who the hell
knows why? Other times, the device does nothing but let you see all the
fish that you cannot catch on a certain day. Frustrating, until you
remember that your main purpose in being there is not to catch fish, but
to have a beer and try to convince your significant other to remove her
clothes.


Now that's fishing!



Bryan August 25th 05 11:06 PM


"Gorf" wrote in message
om...

"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .
I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons
until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees

and
rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor

into
a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode
everytime

I
drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan



It really depends on your fish finder and how good you are at reading
it..... Finding fish can be tricky, but finding structure is not all that
difficult. You can find drop offs, points and rock piles. I have an
older Humingbird and you can generally tell what type of bottom is down
there and if there are big trees.
A buddy of mine has an older more expensive brand and he can read his even
better, but it looks like junk to me.
It takes practice.

The lake I boat on is a flood control lake so the water level fluctuates.
When the water starts to get low I will not go on the lake without a fish
finder.




Trees are my biggest concern. So I'll be trying to find an affordable
fish-finder that offers great structure identification right down to small
trees and large rocks. My local boat dealer says their most popular model
is the Lowrance x47 and x47ex. Any comments on their qualities for my
tree-filled reservoir concerns?



Doug Kanter August 26th 05 12:18 AM


"Bryan" wrote in message
...
"Bryan" wrote in message
.. .
I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons
until they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged
trees and rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor
into a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode
everytime I drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan



"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
Thanks. Now you have ME worried, since I'll be fishing in such a lake in
3 weeks. It's not like I didn't have enough to think about, ya know?

Fish finders are fascinating because of their ability to *sometimes* find
fish, and to remind you that no matter how much technocrap you put on
your boat, fishing is still very much a random thing. There are places
where fish will park 9 times out of 10, but sometimes....not, and who the
hell knows why? Other times, the device does nothing but let you see all
the fish that you cannot catch on a certain day. Frustrating, until you
remember that your main purpose in being there is not to catch fish, but
to have a beer and try to convince your significant other to remove her
clothes.


Now that's fishing!


I'm telling ya....it really is. :-)



PocoLoco August 26th 05 01:30 AM

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:10:38 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:

I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees and
rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor into
a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode everytime I
drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan

I used a mushroom anchor in that environment. Never lost one.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Bryan August 26th 05 03:20 AM


"John Sobieski" ] wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005, "Bryan" wrote:
I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees
and
rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor
into
a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode everytime
I
drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan


If they are US Army Corp of Engineers flood control projects, they clean
out the trees before they let the reservoir fill. For us fisherman, that
is
bad.

I have boated on flood control lakes for over 30 years and never lost an
anchor. Finding the fish was the toughest part. An old saying, 90% of the
fish live in 10% of the lake.

Yes, a fishfinder can find trees, but you only need 1 to hang up on.
Pretty
hard to notice that single tree that got washed out in a flood and now
sits
water logged at the bottom.

If you are really worried, don't use that nice expensive Fortress. If it
isn't windy cove you anchor in, just tie on a coffee can full of cement or
a concrete block :) My uncles used those for anchors for years.

Beat wishes!



Regards,
SOB


I don't know if the lakes/reservoirs are flood control or domestic water
sources; I'll have to check it out for the sake curiosity. The two I have
in mind are USACE projects. The nearest lake is full of submerged
near-shore trees and the coves seem to full of submerged trees. I'm new to
this kind of boating so I'm learning stuff every time I go out and getting
more comfortable with everything about the boat. The last time out I just
used a dock line and tied the boat to a piece of tree sticking out of the
water in a cove I tucked into. A coffee can filled with cement will hold my
boat in place?

Thanks
Bryan
Sea Ray 185



Bryan August 26th 05 03:23 AM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:10:38 GMT, "Bryan"
wrote:

I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees
and
rocks.


Lake of the Damned.

Don't go near the water!!!!

MMMUUAAAWWWAAAHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!

I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor
into
a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode everytime
I
drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?


I guess I'd have to ask why you need to anchor in a structure field.
The whole point of having a structure field is to be able to move
around.
--

Later,

Tom

What's a structure field? The places I want to anchor are small quiet coves
great for picnicking with the kids, but they are full of trees.



Bryan August 26th 05 03:24 AM


"PocoLoco" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 21:10:38 GMT, "Bryan" wrote:

I have a couple of man-made lakes nearby. They were natural canyons until
they were dammed. Consequently the lake is filled with submerged trees
and
rocks.
I'm wondering how useful a fish-finder would be to visualize below the
surface in order to avoid submerged trees including dropping an anchor
into
a tree instead of mud. I'd rather not buy a new anchor and rode everytime
I
drop the hook in some quiet water.
Has my imagination created a problem that doesn't exist and tree filled
reservoirs aren't really anchor-thiefs?

Thanks
Bryan

I used a mushroom anchor in that environment. Never lost one.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD


That seems like a good idea. Thanks.




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