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Doug Kanter August 25th 05 03:47 PM

Gasoline Theft: Coming to a Marina Near You?
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

CNN had a number of reports today about gasoline theft from camper parking
lots, pre-school parking lots, et cetera.

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

I do.


Removing fuel (and tires, engine, battery) from RVs is OK with me. :-)



[email protected] August 25th 05 04:27 PM


Harry Krause wrote:
CNN had a number of reports today about gasoline theft from camper
parking lots, pre-school parking lots, et cetera.

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

I do.


Too bad they're typically different sizes, or a sure cure for the
fuel thieves would be to swap the cap labeled "fuel" on the fuel filler
with the cap labeled "waste" on the deck fitting for holding tank pump
out. One big suck on the plastic hose to get the suction going and the
resulting "mouthful" would cure most fuel thieves on the very first
attempt. (You would want to swap them back before somebody not familiar
with the boat ever attempted to fuel it for you).

In reality, I think it might be pretty east to siphon gas or diesel
from a boat on a trailer, but wouldn't you need a pump if the boat is
in the water? Most fuel tanks are at least partially below the
waterline, and I think that while a siphon hose can run uphill for a
distance- doesn't it have to terminate at a point lower than the
material being siphoned.


Ed August 25th 05 04:33 PM

As King Jimmy says: "They looked a lot better as Beer cans"



Doug Kanter wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

CNN had a number of reports today about gasoline theft from camper parking
lots, pre-school parking lots, et cetera.

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

I do.



Removing fuel (and tires, engine, battery) from RVs is OK with me. :-)




HotRod August 25th 05 05:22 PM

IF I remember correctly you can't even siphon from car fuel tanks any more
as they has screens in them. Has anyone even tried this recently???
Not sure about boats..



"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

CNN had a number of reports today about gasoline theft from camper parking
lots, pre-school parking lots, et cetera.

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

I do.




Netsock August 25th 05 05:45 PM


"HotRod" wrote in message
...
IF I remember correctly you can't even siphon from car fuel tanks any more
as they has screens in them. Has anyone even tried this recently???
Not sure about boats..


I know quite a few Japanese cars have these springs, but most American cars
dont.

I helped out on a fuel pump change in a friends 2004 Caviler, and siphoned
the fuel out with a full size garden hose.

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

CNN had a number of reports today about gasoline theft from camper

parking
lots, pre-school parking lots, et cetera.

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?


No.

I do.


That's because you're an idiot. 99% of boats fuel tanks are below the water
line, making it impossible to siphon.

Of course, I would only expect somebody familiar with boats to know that...


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/




*JimH* August 25th 05 05:53 PM


wrote in message
oups.com...

Harry Krause wrote:
CNN had a number of reports today about gasoline theft from camper
parking lots, pre-school parking lots, et cetera.

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

I do.


Too bad they're typically different sizes, or a sure cure for the
fuel thieves would be to swap the cap labeled "fuel" on the fuel filler
with the cap labeled "waste" on the deck fitting for holding tank pump
out. One big suck on the plastic hose to get the suction going and the
resulting "mouthful" would cure most fuel thieves on the very first
attempt. (You would want to swap them back before somebody not familiar
with the boat ever attempted to fuel it for you).

In reality, I think it might be pretty east to siphon gas or diesel
from a boat on a trailer, but wouldn't you need a pump if the boat is
in the water? Most fuel tanks are at least partially below the
waterline, and I think that while a siphon hose can run uphill for a
distance- doesn't it have to terminate at a point lower than the
material being siphoned.



I saw the price being changed at the corner BP this morning from $2.36 to
$2.69.



Netsock August 25th 05 07:06 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
Yeah, and nobody has yet developed any sort of manual or 12v DC
powered pump, so pumping gas out of boats would be absolutely
impossible, too!!!


Wrong. Those pumps do exist. Along with manual hand-crank pumps too.


What was that about being familiar with boats, Wetsock?




Perhaps you should read a bit slower...the method being discussed is
"siphoning", not pumping.



And I have probably forgotten what you will ever know about boats.


Bwhahahahahahahahaha!




Back at cha, my English challenged friend. :)


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Garth Almgren August 25th 05 07:24 PM

Around 8/25/2005 6:31 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

I do.


It's already happened: http://tinyurl.com/8oel7
I reported back in August when my uncle had about 2/3 of his gas stolen
(about 70 gallons, probably all the thieves could carry) while at his
slip in our large public marina.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

Starbucks August 25th 05 07:53 PM

Harry,
Are you thinking about going over to get some free gas, or boat parts?


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Garth Almgren wrote:
Around 8/25/2005 6:31 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

I do.


It's already happened: http://tinyurl.com/8oel7
I reported back in August when my uncle had about 2/3 of his gas stolen
(about 70 gallons, probably all the thieves could carry) while at his
slip in our large public marina.




There's at least 150 boats on trailers at a marina near me...I wonder if
anyone watches the place after hours.




Netsock August 25th 05 07:58 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
NO! Really?


Yes. Really.


I guess my very obvious and pointed sarcasm parted your hair in the
middle as it flew over your head.




No, not really. Just demonstrating how ridiculous you sound. But you're
right...you don't need any help from me.



reading is not your problem. Comprehension is your problem, dimwit.




What grade are you in?


Please read the subject line to find out what the thread is about.




My reply was a direct response to Krause's observance that the "siphoning"
of fuel would be coming to the marinas.



Again...maybe if you go back and read s-l-o-w-e-r...



Oh, I sincerely doubt that, although if you ever knew anything at all,
it does appear you've forgotten it, Wetsock.




Take care Rusty, and good luck in the new school year.




--
-Netsock



"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Netsock August 25th 05 08:25 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
It's not my fault that neither you or Krause considered that
"siphoning" was not the only means of stealing gasoline from boats.


Wow. First, you cant read whats there, and now, you add to whats already
there.

Nice work.

Take care Rusty, and good luck.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Netsock August 25th 05 08:50 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...

Easy there, Wetsock. I think you're head may explode!


"you're head"

A little free advice...when school starts, sit in the front row of your
grammar/English class, ok?


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



John Wentworth August 25th 05 08:51 PM

Starbucks wrote:
Harry,
Are you thinking about going over to get some free gas, or boat parts?



Not a chance! Not for moral or ethical reasons, but simply because he
doesn't have time to DO anything. His every waking moment is consumed in
posting on rec.boats.

P. Fritz August 25th 05 08:56 PM


"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...

Easy there, Wetsock. I think you're head may explode!


"you're head"

A little free advice...when school starts, sit in the front row of your
grammar/English class, ok?


He must be related to Kevin LOL



--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/





Starbucks August 25th 05 09:00 PM

John,
I guess he wants to pretend to steal gas, like he pretends to boat.


"John Wentworth" wrote in message
...
Starbucks wrote:
Harry,
Are you thinking about going over to get some free gas, or boat parts?



Not a chance! Not for moral or ethical reasons, but simply because he
doesn't have time to DO anything. His every waking moment is consumed in
posting on rec.boats.




Garth Almgren August 26th 05 12:39 AM

Around 8/25/2005 11:32 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Garth Almgren wrote:

Around 8/25/2005 6:31 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?


It's already happened: http://tinyurl.com/8oel7
I reported back in August when my uncle had about 2/3 of his gas stolen
(about 70 gallons, probably all the thieves could carry) while at his
slip in our large public marina.


There's at least 150 boats on trailers at a marina near me...I wonder if
anyone watches the place after hours.


Dunno, since there aren't that many boats kept out of the water near my
marina. Those that are (one boatel, a few acres of yards) are mostly
fenced off with 9' chain link.

The docks themselves (except for the public guest docks) are accessible
from land by key only, but it's only too easy to grab the door as
someone is leaving. Of course, access from the water is WIDE open (which
is probably what happened to my uncle). "Security" does patrol, but for
the most part I get the impression that they're looking for people
parking in the lot without a permit.

My Blue-Boat stays safely at home in a locked garage. However, on the
rare occasion when I leave her at the open guest dock unattended
overnight (for a quicker early-morning departure), everything that isn't
bolted down comes with me.

The gear box, electronics, and two 6.6 gallon tanks are just too easy to
walk off with in the middle of the night. I get it all in one cart load,
and even in broad daylight in front of tens of witnesses I've never been
questioned about stripping the boat nearly bare. Kinda scary, actually.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows

Dag Sunde August 26th 05 12:58 AM

"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:18:24 -0400, Harry Krause

snipped/
Please untwist your panties. I never said anything of the kind. I said
you "overlooked" it when you made your statement. face it, you did! I
tend to think you know there are other ways of stealing gasoline, and
"siphoning" was simply your usenet shorthand for "stealing", which is
the word in the subject line. Wetsock, however, is just plain
clueless, and no amount of tutoring will cure an imbecile like him.

*PLONK*

--
Dag.



*JimH* August 26th 05 02:39 AM


"John Sobieski" ] wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005, Red Cloud® wrote:
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:50:52 -0400, "Netsock" wrote:


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
. ..

Easy there, Wetsock. I think you're head may explode!


"you're head"

A little free advice...when school starts, sit in the front row of your
grammar/English class, ok?


When someone's last gasp is pointing out a typo, you know they are lost.
Really
pathetic, Wetsock!

rusty redcloud



Global delete, kindly reciprocate.


Thanks,
SOB

---------

Global delete? What do you mean?












Netsock August 26th 05 12:36 PM


"Red Cloud®" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:50:52 -0400, "Netsock" wrote:


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
.. .

Easy there, Wetsock. I think you're head may explode!


"you're head"

A little free advice...when school starts, sit in the front row of your
grammar/English class, ok?


When someone's last gasp is pointing out a typo, you know they are lost.

Really
pathetic, Wetsock!


Putting in an apostrophe and an extra "e" is not a typo.

Now I *might* have believed its was a spell-check issue, but now since you
have claimed its a typo, only proves you lack of grammar comprehension.

Good luck Rusty.

--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/




Netsock August 26th 05 12:47 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:37:29 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:
In case you haven't guessed, "netsock" is a twerpy little boy using his
daddy's boat and computer.


Ah, our boatless village idiot finnaly chimes in with his self-fabricated
lies.

I like the new computer lie Harry...very well thought out, and
original...very mature.

Hey Harry, didnt I read a post from you, complaining that all people do is
keep repeating falsehoods?

Oh the iorny...

BTW Krause...I'm going out on a REAL boat, on REAL water this week end...

Ill toast to you, as you're frantically typing away on Usenet, while I'm on
the water. :)

[Rusty's middle school spew snipped]


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Netsock August 26th 05 12:48 PM


"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
Around 8/25/2005 11:32 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Garth Almgren wrote:

Around 8/25/2005 6:31 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

It's already happened: http://tinyurl.com/8oel7
I reported back in August when my uncle had about 2/3 of his gas stolen
(about 70 gallons, probably all the thieves could carry) while at his
slip in our large public marina.


There's at least 150 boats on trailers at a marina near me...I wonder if
anyone watches the place after hours.


Dunno, since there aren't that many boats kept out of the water near my
marina. Those that are (one boatel, a few acres of yards) are mostly
fenced off with 9' chain link.

The docks themselves (except for the public guest docks) are accessible
from land by key only, but it's only too easy to grab the door as
someone is leaving. Of course, access from the water is WIDE open (which
is probably what happened to my uncle). "Security" does patrol, but for
the most part I get the impression that they're looking for people
parking in the lot without a permit.

My Blue-Boat stays safely at home in a locked garage. However, on the
rare occasion when I leave her at the open guest dock unattended
overnight (for a quicker early-morning departure), everything that isn't
bolted down comes with me.

The gear box, electronics, and two 6.6 gallon tanks are just too easy to
walk off with in the middle of the night. I get it all in one cart load,
and even in broad daylight in front of tens of witnesses I've never been
questioned about stripping the boat nearly bare. Kinda scary, actually.


--
~/Garth - 1966 Glastron V-142 Skiflite: "Blue-Boat"
"There is nothing - absolutely nothing - half so much worth doing
as simply messing about in boats."
-Kenneth Grahame, The Wind in the Willows




Netsock August 26th 05 12:58 PM


"Garth Almgren" wrote in message
...
Around 8/25/2005 11:32 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Garth Almgren wrote:

Around 8/25/2005 6:31 AM, Harry Krause wrote:

Think we'll have cases of fuel siphoning from boats at marinas?

It's already happened: http://tinyurl.com/8oel7
I reported back in August when my uncle had about 2/3 of his gas stolen
(about 70 gallons, probably all the thieves could carry) while at his
slip in our large public marina.


There's at least 150 boats on trailers at a marina near me...I wonder if
anyone watches the place after hours.


Ah, the proverbial back-pedal.

Tell us Krause, which marina has "150 boats on trailers" in late August?

I go to Whiskey Island marina on Lake Erie, and it is a HUGE marina, and I
only recall about 12-15 boats trailered there, and I think most of those
were in for service.

Could this be another one of your "stories"? After all, you *are* a proven
liar...

PS: I'm ready for more of your dimwitted replies, complete with immature
name-calling and lies.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Netsock August 26th 05 04:45 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
Typo is slang for a typographical error, Wetsock.


I know what it is Rusty, but you didn't type wrong...you typed the word
correctly...you just used the wrong word.



So what you had was a grammatical error...not a typo.



As I correctly
pointed out, in usenet, those who have shot their wad can only respond
by pointing out such errors.




You didn't "correctly" point out anything...other than your inability to
grasp simple English.



Take care Rusty, and good luck.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Netsock August 26th 05 04:52 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 07:58:56 -0400, "Netsock" wrote:

Could this be another one of your "stories"? After all, you *are* a

proven
liar...

PS: I'm ready for more of your dimwitted replies, complete with immature
name-calling and lies.


IRONY ALERT! IRONY ALERT! IRONY ALERT!




[yawn] Yet again, an English lesson is due...



"Liar" is a descriptive term. One who lies, is a liar. And ample proof has
been shown that Krause does in fact lie.



If that's too deep for you, try this analogy...a person who runs, is called
a "runner". Get it now, my language challenged friend?




--
-Netsock



"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



Netsock August 26th 05 05:14 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:45:45 -0400, "Netsock" wrote:
I take it that English is not your native language?


Yes, it is.

If I had typed the
word "zebra" in the same location it would have also been a typo.


No, it wouldn't have.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



P. Fritz August 26th 05 05:17 PM


"Netsock" wrote in message
...

"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 26 Aug 2005 11:45:45 -0400, "Netsock" wrote:
I take it that English is not your native language?


Yes, it is.

If I had typed the
word "zebra" in the same location it would have also been a typo.


No, it wouldn't have.


Damn, he sounds like kevin.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/





Netsock August 26th 05 05:20 PM


"Red Cloud©" wrote in message
...
Here, try to parse it again, ****tard:


Heh heh...I believe foul and immature name calling is *above* being a
spell-cop when your "wad is shot" Rusty.

Its obvious this conversation have surpassed your ability of understanding,
and has clearly shown the lack of grasp you have.

My work is done here...take care Rusty, and good luck in life.


--
-Netsock

"It's just about going fast...that's all..."
http://home.columbus.rr.com/ckg/



bob August 26th 05 08:07 PM

Dont laugh its a good black market business.


bob August 26th 05 08:07 PM

Dont laugh its a good black market business.



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