Enterprise Dinghy Info Help?
 

Hi
I'm a new member here. I have just bought an old GRP Enterprise dinghy, which I am currently working on to restore.
I'm a little confused by the "one design" description of the Enterprise class at the various club and association web sites. At my sailing club, there are a number of Enterprises (wooden) but no GRP versions to compare to mine. I do not have self bailers at the stern. Neither do I have shroud spreaders on the mast. One other Enterprise at the club has no spreaders, while all the others do. Looking at the Holt website and at Enterprise suppliers such as Speed Sails, I can see that there are choices for mast and boom types (Proctor or Super Spar) and also the modern boats have significantly more sophisticated rudder systems. Also, my GRP version has buily in buoyancy compartments as opposed to the buoyancy bags for the wooden versions.
I have searched in vain for information on the web to try and ascertain where my boat sits in the geneology of the design. I have also tried to establish the age of the boat from the hull/sail number.
I have sail no. 12967, which is also scratched into the helm cross seat. The mast and boom look like Proctor, but the mast has a Holt-Allen badge.

Can anyone help me ascertain the year of manufacture (1970-80?), the version/mk no. and whether plans are available? I have some significant hull (bottom) repair work to do, but cannot access the damaged area from inside the boat as it is within the integral buoyancy area on the starboard side.

Any info would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Tim Eyles
Bucks, UK

Often one design boat like the Ent, or the Phantom have a considerable
leeway in terms of rig. Look at the laser their are 3 rigs for that boat.
Bailers in an ent are an essential comodity. Do you have seats in your boat
that are enclosed to make bouyancy tanks, if not the bags tend to float and
this takes on more water.
The easiest way to get the water out is sail it out, using a bucket or
bailer works but the ent often will fill above the centerboard alowing the
water you have just bailed to re-enter.

The mast on your boat may be a cruising mast, to be honest this is a boat
that is competative if set up properly and a floating brick if its not. If
your intention is to race (competativly) then you need to invest in
spreaders or even a new mast. Spreader angle is critical for racing as is
just about everything else on this great boat.

My choice would always be a wooden one as its easier to maintain the weight.

Good luck
"emitime" wrote in message
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Hi
I'm a new member here. I have just bought an old GRP Enterprise dinghy,
which I am currently working on to restore.
I'm a little confused by the "one design" description of the Enterprise
class at the various club and association web sites. At my sailing club,
there are a number of Enterprises (wooden) but no GRP versions to
compare to mine. I do not have self bailers at the stern. Neither do I
have shroud spreaders on the mast. One other Enterprise at the club has
no spreaders, while all the others do. Looking at the Holt website and
at Enterprise suppliers such as Speed Sails, I can see that there are
choices for mast and boom types (Proctor or Super Spar) and also the
modern boats have significantly more sophisticated rudder systems.
Also, my GRP version has buily in buoyancy compartments as opposed to
the buoyancy bags for the wooden versions.
I have searched in vain for information on the web to try and ascertain
where my boat sits in the geneology of the design. I have also tried to
establish the age of the boat from the hull/sail number.
I have sail no. 12967, which is also scratched into the helm cross
seat. The mast and boom look like Proctor, but the mast has a
Holt-Allen badge.

Can anyone help me ascertain the year of manufacture (1970-80?), the
version/mk no. and whether plans are available? I have some significant
hull (bottom) repair work to do, but cannot access the damaged area from
inside the boat as it is within the integral buoyancy area on the
starboard side.

Any info would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Tim Eyles
Bucks, UK


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emitime

Just to add to my last post, you do seem to have bouancy tanks on yours,
this version was designed for sailing on the sea. you can cut holes in the
tanks to work inside and fit waterproof covers in them so you have access.
Do this with a lot of thought and care.
"emitime" wrote in message
...

Hi
I'm a new member here. I have just bought an old GRP Enterprise dinghy,
which I am currently working on to restore.
I'm a little confused by the "one design" description of the Enterprise
class at the various club and association web sites. At my sailing club,
there are a number of Enterprises (wooden) but no GRP versions to
compare to mine. I do not have self bailers at the stern. Neither do I
have shroud spreaders on the mast. One other Enterprise at the club has
no spreaders, while all the others do. Looking at the Holt website and
at Enterprise suppliers such as Speed Sails, I can see that there are
choices for mast and boom types (Proctor or Super Spar) and also the
modern boats have significantly more sophisticated rudder systems.
Also, my GRP version has buily in buoyancy compartments as opposed to
the buoyancy bags for the wooden versions.
I have searched in vain for information on the web to try and ascertain
where my boat sits in the geneology of the design. I have also tried to
establish the age of the boat from the hull/sail number.
I have sail no. 12967, which is also scratched into the helm cross
seat. The mast and boom look like Proctor, but the mast has a
Holt-Allen badge.

Can anyone help me ascertain the year of manufacture (1970-80?), the
version/mk no. and whether plans are available? I have some significant
hull (bottom) repair work to do, but cannot access the damaged area from
inside the boat as it is within the integral buoyancy area on the
starboard side.

Any info would be much appreciated.

Cheers
Tim Eyles
Bucks, UK


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emitime

emitime wrote:
Hi
I'm a new member here. I have just bought an old GRP Enterprise dinghy,
which I am currently working on to restore.

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Hi Tim,
I know nothing about Enterprises, other than they have blue sails, but
here are a couple of pointers:
- the Enterprise class association: http://www.sailenterprise.org.uk
- the uk.rec.sailing newsgroup - you're more likely to find people who
know about Enterprises the
http://groups.google.co.uk/group/uk.rec.sailing
- There's also the Yachts and Yachting magazine dinghy forum, and the
Dinghy Sailing magazine forum.

Hope this helps,
Peter

[quote=Paul Rawlinson]Just to add to my last post, you do seem to have bouancy tanks on yours,
this version was designed for sailing on the sea. you can cut holes in the
tanks to work inside and fit waterproof covers in them so you have access.
Do this with a lot of thought and care.
"emitime" wrote in message
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Hi Paul
Thanks for taking the time to reply. I don't plan to cut access holes to the built-in buoyancy tanks, although it is interesting that you say this is the version designed for sea sailing, yet there are no self-bailers. I am not planning to restore the boat for racing purposes, but for cruising. I have today managed to successfully repair the hole in the bottom of the boat using fibre glass matting cut into strips soaked in epoxy. I was able to build up horizontal and vertical strips even without access from the inside of the hull, which would have been preferable. I plan to recreate the hull contour using glass fibre paste, once the initial fix has gone fully off.

Best Regards
Tim

Thanks Peter, I'll check these out.

Cheers
Tim