Doug,

I believe that Bush, like every democratic and republican politician for
the last 5 years believed that Saddam was stock piling WMD and was allowing
terrorists to have training camps in his country. Can you name one
politician, including Clinton and Kerry who did not believe Saddam was stock
piling WMD and using his country to harbor terrorists? There are two
possible alternatives for this incorrect belief. One - The WMD were shipped
to another country before the invasion or Two The intelligence was
incorrect. The head of the CIA was a Clinton appointee, not someone who was
feeding Bush the info he wanted to hear. He was giving Bush the same info
he had provided Clinton and the Congressional Intelligence Committee for
more than 5 years.

Now doesn't that make much more sense than Bush has a sexual fantasy about
invading Iraq?




"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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OK. Which of Rove's reasons made sense to you?

"Juan Valdez" wrote in message
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and when you look at ancient civilizations, the only explanation which
makes sense is they were visited by aliens.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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No I'm not. With the *possible* exception of having a base for troops
there, there is NO reason which has made sense. Not one.

"Juan Valdez" wrote in message
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Doug,
You mind me of the people who look at ancient artifacts they don't
understand and say "This is proof that ancient civilization were
visited by space aliens" You are ignoring many other more viable
reasons for invading Iraq.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Juan Valdez" wrote in message
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Paul,
I agree. My point is there are many reasons Bush went to war
against Iraq. You may not agree with his reasons, but the least
likely reasons, is Bush was trying to personally profit from the war
and/or it meet a sexual fantasy of his.

But.....none of his reasons have panned out, or even held a drop of
water. That leaves only perversion and twisted beliefs.

"Juan Valdez" wrote in message
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Doug,

I believe that Bush, like every democratic and republican politician for
the last 5 years believed that Saddam was stock piling WMD and was
allowing terrorists to have training camps in his country. Can you name
one politician, including Clinton and Kerry who did not believe Saddam was
stock piling WMD and using his country to harbor terrorists? There are
two possible alternatives for this incorrect belief. One - The WMD were
shipped to another country before the invasion or Two The intelligence was
incorrect. The head of the CIA was a Clinton appointee, not someone who
was feeding Bush the info he wanted to hear. He was giving Bush the same
info he had provided Clinton and the Congressional Intelligence Committee
for more than 5 years.

Doesn't really matter who appointed the CIA chief. A new boss steps in, and
tells various government employees how they're expected to operate. They may
as well be different employees. This is no different than any major
corporation with a new CEO.


Now doesn't that make much more sense than Bush has a sexual fantasy about
invading Iraq?

My diagnosis stands.

Doug,
So when the CIA chief was telling Clinton and the Intelligence Committee
that Saddam was amassing WMD and allowing terrorist to set up training bases
and providing financial assistance to the terrorist it was because that is
what Clinton wanted to hear.

Doug, you may believe your diagnose is correct, but I doubt if any
political pundits or medical doctors would agree with you. It sounds like
the "alien story" to me, and you are not going to allow facts to influence
your diagnoses.

That is OK, you are not the only one who has illogical beliefs.
Sometimes doctors are able to help control illogical thoughts.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Juan Valdez" wrote in message
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Doug,

I believe that Bush, like every democratic and republican politician for
the last 5 years believed that Saddam was stock piling WMD and was
allowing terrorists to have training camps in his country. Can you name
one politician, including Clinton and Kerry who did not believe Saddam
was stock piling WMD and using his country to harbor terrorists? There
are two possible alternatives for this incorrect belief. One - The WMD
were shipped to another country before the invasion or Two The
intelligence was incorrect. The head of the CIA was a Clinton appointee,
not someone who was feeding Bush the info he wanted to hear. He was
giving Bush the same info he had provided Clinton and the Congressional
Intelligence Committee for more than 5 years.

Doesn't really matter who appointed the CIA chief. A new boss steps in,
and tells various government employees how they're expected to operate.
They may as well be different employees. This is no different than any
major corporation with a new CEO.


Now doesn't that make much more sense than Bush has a sexual fantasy
about invading Iraq?

My diagnosis stands.

"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
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"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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What is your point?

They have names, in case you didn't notice.

Yes, they do have names and faces and they should be honored for their
sacrifice and not be used as a political tool.



I'm not running for public office, you dolt. No political tools
involved. I'm simply posting the names of the pawns murdered by your
president, whose sole purpose is to wage war for his own sexual thrills
and financial gain.

Have you ever thought of attending anger management classes? You seem to
be pretty worked up and your agenda sounds politically motivated.


No, Bertie. This is the truth, plain and simple. Your president's list of
reasons for Iraq have all turned to vapor. Nothing left but 100% personal
reasons for the war, and that qualifies as mental illness.

I'm so glad you are parroting you mentor Harry by calling me "Bertie." I am
truly honored.

You are trying to make a political statement under the guise of just
informing people and your effort is transparent.

Your shrill tone and open hostility towards those with an opposing view is
clouding your judgment.

You really do need to seek professional help to get you back to making clear
and effective arguments.

"Juan Valdez" wrote in message
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That is OK, you are not the only one who has illogical beliefs.
Sometimes doctors are able to help control illogical thoughts.


Perhaps you could recommend one to your president, then.