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Doug Kanter May 25th 04 03:09 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?



Jeff Morris May 25th 04 03:21 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 
There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:
http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...albacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a variety of
other places.




"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?





Curtis CCR May 25th 04 06:24 PM

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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message ...
There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:
http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...albacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a variety of
other places.


On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?



P.Fritz May 25th 04 07:17 PM

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"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message

...
There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:

http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...albacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a

variety of
other places.


I believe there is a German U-boat at the Chicago Science Museuem.



On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?





Eisboch May 25th 04 07:34 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 
One of my fond memories of Navy days was transferring at sea from a
Destroyer Escort to spend a day on the old USS Pickerel SS 524. The
Pickerel was one of the last diesel electric subs in commission at the time
(1969) and was famous in the old TV show that had her surfacing at a 42
degree angle, with much of the boat out of the water.

Our hosts on the Pickerel gave us quite an indoctrination to subs that day.
We made several dives and made an emergency accent due to "uncontrollable
flooding in the engine room". Of course, the CO of the sub purposely
neglected to inform us Destroyer types that it was just a drill.

The three of us that spent the day received honorary submariners
certificates and a set of dolphins for our jackets.

Eisboch


DSK May 25th 04 08:25 PM

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Doug Kanter wrote:
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?


Not quite Boston, but close... Fall River

http://www.battleshipcove.org/ss298-history.htm

There are a few places around the country... Patriots Point in
Charleston SC for example. The problem is that it's not viable as a
commercial tourist operation unless it's heavily subsidized, and the
ships are basically let rust except for the few spaces open to the public.

Regards
Doug King


gatt May 25th 04 08:54 PM

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"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


It's the one that breaches in Hunt for Red October and the tour is really
nice.

There's a GATO class submarine next to the USS Alabama battleship (and a
B-52 and SR-71) in Mobile.

-c



Steven Shelikoff May 25th 04 11:39 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 
On Tue, 25 May 2004 10:21:55 -0400, "Jeff Morris"
wrote:

There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:
http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...albacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a variety of
other places.


Philadelphia as well. You can tour the USS Becuna, a diesel-electric
sub which served from 1944 until 1973.

While you're there, you can take a step back in time and tour the USS
Olympia, Admiral Dewey's flagship. Or tour what is arguably one of the
greatest warships of all time, the Battleship New Jersey.

Steve

Marshall Banana May 26th 04 02:20 AM

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Also Sprach Steven Shelikoff :

Philadelphia as well. You can tour the USS Becuna, a diesel-electric
sub which served from 1944 until 1973.


While you're there, you can take a step back in time and tour the USS
Olympia, Admiral Dewey's flagship. Or tour what is arguably one of the
greatest warships of all time, the Battleship New Jersey.


But can you visit the Philadelphia Experiment, or is the USS Eldridge in
Norfolk now?

Dan

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the chemicals in coke produce hallucinations. People tend to change into
lizards and attack without warning, and large bats usually fly in the
window. Additionally, you begin to believe that elevators have windows.

Gary May 26th 04 04:11 AM

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Also USS Cobia in Manitowoc Wi. @ Wisconsin Maritime Museum as well as a
very interesting exhibit on subs in general and those built in Manitowoc in
particular. Also interesting stuff about Wisconsin built boats including
Burger & Palmer Johnson. See http://www.wimaritimemuseum.org/index.html
Gary

"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message

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There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:

http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...hire/stories/2
0000616/att_ussalbacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a

variety of
other places.


On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?





Snafu May 26th 04 04:40 AM

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....and don't forget the USS Pampanito at Fishermans' Wharf in San Francisco.
http://www.maritime.org/pamphome.htm


"Gary" wrote in message
om...
Also USS Cobia in Manitowoc Wi. @ Wisconsin Maritime Museum as well as a
very interesting exhibit on subs in general and those built in Manitowoc

in
particular. Also interesting stuff about Wisconsin built boats including
Burger & Palmer Johnson. See http://www.wimaritimemuseum.org/index.html
Gary

"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message

...
There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:


http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...hire/stories/2
0000616/att_ussalbacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a

variety of
other places.


On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such

things?







Paul Fritz May 26th 04 05:03 AM

Visiting a Submarine
 
http://www.lostsubs.com/Museums_Master_List.htm


"Jeff Morris" wrote in message
...
There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:

http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...hire/stories/2
0000616/att_ussalbacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a

variety of
other places.




"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?







Gould 0738 May 26th 04 05:17 AM

Visiting a Submarine
 
We've got (or have had) a Russian submarine available for tours in Seattle.

(Right wingers, hold the wise-cracks please).

BTW-We also have a huge statue of Lenin, but that's in Fremont and the jury is
still out whether Fremont is actually part of Seattle, the heart of Seattle, or
something else entirely. :-)



Don White May 26th 04 03:56 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 

"Gould 0738" wrote in message
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We've got (or have had) a Russian submarine available for tours in

Seattle.

(Right wingers, hold the wise-cracks please).

BTW-We also have a huge statue of Lenin, but that's in Fremont and the

jury is
still out whether Fremont is actually part of Seattle, the heart of

Seattle, or
something else entirely. :-)

We had an old 'Hotel' class Soviet submarine here for a few years. It was
left over from the Harrison Ford movie 'K19". Last I heard, it was
evicted and someone took it stateside.



Yorgle May 26th 04 06:43 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?



Another Sub that's open for tours is the USS Growler at the Intrepid
Museum in New York. It's located in Manhattan on Pier 86. The website
says it's the only intact strategic nuclear missile submarine open to
the public anywhere in the world. I was at the Intrepid museum last
year, checking out the Intrepid aircraft carrier, but I didn't have
time to tour the sub. We were on our way to the Auto Show, and the
line to get onto the sub was too big. I may get a chance to check it
out next week. If so, I'll let you know what I thought of it.

Doug Kanter May 26th 04 06:47 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 

"Yorgle" wrote in message
om...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message

...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?



Another Sub that's open for tours is the USS Growler at the Intrepid
Museum in New York. It's located in Manhattan on Pier 86. The website
says it's the only intact strategic nuclear missile submarine open to
the public anywhere in the world. I was at the Intrepid museum last
year, checking out the Intrepid aircraft carrier, but I didn't have
time to tour the sub. We were on our way to the Auto Show, and the
line to get onto the sub was too big. I may get a chance to check it
out next week. If so, I'll let you know what I thought of it.


Yes - please let me know how it is, particularly the crowd issue. I'm
leaning toward Fall River MA because it's near Boston, my final destination.
And, Manhattan is such a friggin' production......



basskisser May 26th 04 07:13 PM

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"Snafu" wrote in message ...
...and don't forget the USS Pampanito at Fishermans' Wharf in San Francisco.
http://www.maritime.org/pamphome.htm


Been on it right where she sits!

Scott Sexton May 26th 04 07:28 PM

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In article , yorgle7
@yahoo.com says...
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?




In Galveston TX, there are the USS Cavalla SSK-244 submarine and
Destroyer Escort USS Stewart (DE-238). They are located at Seawolf
Park:

http://www.cavalla.org

I haven't been to them in YEARS, maybe I need to check them out the net
time I am down there.

Also on another note, in Corpus Christi TX, we have the Aircraft Carrier
USS Lexington:

http://www.usslexington.com

Take Care

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Curtis CCR May 26th 04 09:27 PM

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"gatt" wrote in message ...
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


It's the one that breaches in Hunt for Red October and the tour is really
nice.


I read that on a web site, but I don't recall them mentioning it on
the tour last fall when I was there. When you say the one that
"breaches" - the Blueback was playing the role of the Dallas? Been a
while since I have seen that movie, and over a decade since I read the
book - I probably have some of the story details mixed up.

The Blueback is not ADA compliant. :) I assume other sub tours are
similar. They have a compartment door mock-up outside the tour - if
you can't step through it, you can't take the tour.... Remind me of
the hole that your carry-on bag has to fit through at the airport.

"All visitors to the Blueback must fit through this hole... or they
have to be checked..." :P


There's a GATO class submarine next to the USS Alabama battleship (and a
B-52 and SR-71) in Mobile.


Oh heck, while we are listing decommisioned ship tours... The Red Oak
Victory is right down the street from my office in Richmond. And you
can take a short ride down the freeway from here to Alameda and tour
the USS Hornet.

One of my employees was assigned to the Hornet in the mid 60's. A
group from the office went on the tour one afternoon and he was able
to provide some cool insight that even the docent thought was fun...
including showing the rack he slept in about 40 years prior.

Calif Bill May 27th 04 03:22 AM

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"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message

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There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:

http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...albacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a

variety of
other places.


On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?



Pompano in San Francisco. The kids even get to spend a night on the sub.



Clams Canino May 27th 04 03:35 AM

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I'm in **view** of the Albacore as I post this... if someone wants to tour
it - I'll be glad to guide...

-W (living next to Albacore Park and a regular local groupie)

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
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"Jeff Morris" wrote in message

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There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:


http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...albacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a

variety of
other places.


On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such

things?



Pompano in San Francisco. The kids even get to spend a night on the sub.





basskisser May 27th 04 12:11 PM

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"Calif Bill" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message
om...
"Jeff Morris" wrote in message

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There isn't one in but the Albacore is about an hour North:

http://bestreadguide.excursia.com/de...albacore.shtml

Also, the Lionfish is in Fall River, MA
http://www.battleshipcove.org/

The Nautilus in Groton:
http://www.ussnautilus.org/

Also, subs are on display in Baltimore, Charleston, New York, and a

variety of
other places.


On the west coast - you can tour the Blueback at the OMSI in Portland,
OR. If I recall correctly, the Blueback was the last of the Navy's
diesel-electrics.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?



Pompano in San Francisco. The kids even get to spend a night on the sub.


Hmm, perhaps you meant the USS Pampanito????

gatt May 27th 04 08:56 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 

"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

It's the one that breaches in Hunt for Red October and the tour is

really
nice.


I read that on a web site, but I don't recall them mentioning it on
the tour last fall when I was there. When you say the one that
"breaches" - the Blueback was playing the role of the Dallas?


I believe so. Haven't seen the movie since it came out, but when the
Blueback first opened to the public that's what they were saying about it.
I remember a few years ago a local news channel showed it sailing up the
Columbia and said that a few lucky winners had won a cruise up the river on
the submarine, which caused all kinds of people to freak out. Turns out the
segment aired on April 1.

-c





Curtis CCR May 28th 04 04:41 PM

Visiting a Submarine
 
"gatt" wrote in message ...
"Curtis CCR" wrote in message

It's the one that breaches in Hunt for Red October and the tour is

really
nice.


I read that on a web site, but I don't recall them mentioning it on
the tour last fall when I was there. When you say the one that
"breaches" - the Blueback was playing the role of the Dallas?


I believe so. Haven't seen the movie since it came out, but when the
Blueback first opened to the public that's what they were saying about it.
I remember a few years ago a local news channel showed it sailing up the
Columbia and said that a few lucky winners had won a cruise up the river on
the submarine, which caused all kinds of people to freak out. Turns out the
segment aired on April 1.


Got me curious...

From http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099810/trivia

"The USS Blueback features in the film. It is seen dramatically
breaching the surface. Also, shots inside the Russian Alpha were taken
in the Blueback's torpedo room."

I loved little sidebar item from the OMSI site...

What is a Blueback?

Blueback is the common name for the Sockeye Salmon, the most common of
the North American Pacific Salmon species. Therefore, it makes sense
that the U.S.S. Blueback is on exhibit on a river in the Pacific
Northwest!

When the Blueback was commissioned in 1959, submarines were named
after fish. Since the 1970s, most U.S. Navy submarines have been named
after cities and states. Why the change? Admiral Hyman G. Rickover
commented, "Fish don't vote!"

George Rogers May 29th 04 02:31 AM

Visiting a Submarine
 
The USS Torsk is in Baltimore's inner harbor (right next to the aquarium).
It fired the last torpedo of WW II.


"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
...
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the public could tour a
decommissioned sub in either Boston or Baltimore. The Navy web sites

aren't
much help with this sort of thing. Anyone got any info on such things?





FredO June 1st 04 08:03 AM

Visiting a Submarine
 
I visited one in San Francisco harbor one time. I think it was used in the filming of the Winds of War or War & Peace? the one with
Robert Mitchum, Jan Michael Vincent, and Ali McGraw.

Fredo




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