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On 11 Aug 2005 15:42:19 -0700, wrote:

John H. wrote:
On 11 Aug 2005 09:52:17 -0700, wrote:

wrote:
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Unfortunate.

What does it profit progressives if self-defined spokespeople simply
sound like
Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, MIchael Savage, Anne Coulter, (and many of
their neo-conservative disciples posting to groups like this) in
reverse?

The problem is, that if a liberal debates ANYTHING that has spewed from
BushCo et al., then the Bush lemmings automatically call that being
shrill or whiney.

Listen to neo-con propaganda on the radio sometime. Those adjectives
"shrill" and "whiney" are used incessantly by a couple of nationally
syndicated hosts. It is no surprise when people who regurgitate the
nonsense almost line-by-line use the same derisive terms to describe
moderates and liberals.

I already listened to right wing radio this morning, and I have finally
figured out, I think, just why these people (and all propagandists) are
so effective. Most people are intellectually lazy- they know they are
supposed to have values and opinions, but they aren't sure about how to
form them or what to base them on. In an era of instant this, instant
that, any of the propagandists (left or right) appeal to people looking
for ready made values. You will notice that propagandists have an
absolute answer for everything; not merely an opinion or a set of
personal beleifs but rather a divinely annointed moral truth. (A truth
so divine that it must be made the law of the land and imposed on
everybody, left or right). The only problem with adopting ready made
values (left or right) rather than developing some genuine,personal
beliefs and an individual moral code is that the artificially imposed
world view never seems to take permanent root. The neo-converts (to the
left or the right) need a new fix almost every day to keep on drinking
the Kool Aid without questioning.

You know its working when nearly all of the people on one side of the
political/philosophical fence or the other seem to be discussing the
same issues, on the same days, and repeating the same arguments (and
adjectives) almost word for word.

People who have been robbed of the ability to form individual opinions
(by the left or by the right) are victims. Those victims should be
pitied, not challenged.

As a people, we likely aren't going to wake up to the fact that the
current polarization is serving the interests of a small group of
powerful people who really aren't liberal or conservative- but who are
enemies of freedom and democracy and have much to gain by fanning the
flames of hatred and intolerance between various political and
philosophical parties. If we're concentrating on the red guy, or the
blue gal, we're distracted from the low profile creeps who hope to
profit from the demise of our free society.

It's sure nice to see that all the liberals have something new to say every day,
Chuck!

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Friendly suggestion for you, John. Try imagining a world where "all"
the liberals or "all" the conservatives don't look, think, believe, and
act the same way. You may find it enlightening.

Gee Chuck, your 'friendly suggestions' seem to work in only one direction! I
don't recall a 'friendly suggestion' after this:

"The problem is, that if a liberal debates ANYTHING that has spewed from
BushCo et al., then the Bush lemmings automatically call that being
shrill or whiney."

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

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