On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:25:32 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

I've saved your post so I can reread it once I know what it means. Right
now, I'm reading Linux for Dummies. That would be me.

I don't know about your personal coding skills, but in my experience,
the Linux experience is very similar to the early DOS days only there
is a more extensive set of commands.

Personally, if you are wanting to experiment, put it on a separate
machine and learn it first before deploying it - that seems to be the
way a of of successful Linux deployments for personal computers seems
to go.

If you are doing this to be away from MS, think it through first. With
Linux you are on your own.

As always, do what you will - just some advice.

Later,

Tom

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 07:25:32 -0400, HarryKrause wrote:


Red Hat is one of the more commercial distributions. That isn't a bad
thing, but there are many other distributions that may more closely fit
your needs. Check some of them out at:

http://distrowatch.com/

I've been using Linux for close to ten years now, and I've never looked
back. When forced to use Windows, I break out in hives. ;-)
Distributions can be a quite personal decision, but I have found Debian
to be about perfect for my needs. Apt is the easiest way to keep a OS
current, bar none.

http://www.debian.org/distrib/

If you need any help/advice, drop me a line. If I don't have the
answer, I should be able to find it. Be careful, Harry, your Windows
days may be numbered.


I've saved your post so I can reread it once I know what it means. Right
now, I'm reading Linux for Dummies. That would be me.

OK, I'll translate as best I can. Something you don't need to know right
now, "Linux" technically is just the kernel, the software core, if you
will. Something you do need to know right now, distributions are the
entire operating system. There are similarities and differences amongst
the distributions.

Red Hat, I believe, is now primarily for business applications, with a
subscription fee. Fedora is Red Hat for the masses (free). I would
suggest going with Fedora, Suse, or Debian. They are all full blown
Linuxes, with easy installs.

Apt is a Debian, and other distribution, program to install additional
programs and to keep your distribution current with bug fixes and security
updates.

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:39:22 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The is a very liberal
upgrade policy

Well, I've been using Agent for many years, and have been very happy
with it, but I'll be darned if I'm going to support some gosh darned
liberal software company. Damnit, anybody got a suggestion for a good
old fashioned flag waving, god fearing, family oriented news reader?

Rot In Hell Forte!!!!


bb

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 11:51:11 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


I don't know about your personal coding skills, but in my experience, the
Linux experience is very similar to the early DOS days only there is a
more extensive set of commands.

These days it can be, but it doesn't need to be. Most mainline
distributions can have you up and running as easy or easier than a Windows
install. You can use Linux fully GUI, but you have the option to use the
command line.

Personally, if you are wanting to experiment, put it on a separate machine
and learn it first before deploying it - that seems to be the way a of of
successful Linux deployments for personal computers seems to go.

The easiest way these days, is a Live CD. You can run Linux of the CD,
without ever having to install onto your hard drive. No muss, no fuss,
albeit slower due to having to decompress.

If you are doing this to be away from MS, think it through first. With
Linux you are on your own.

Not really, there is a tremendous amount of support out there. With
Linux, you may not have a support desk to call, but you do have quite a
few newsgroups. I have found Linux to be quite well documented online. I
have never run into a problem that couldn't be solved with a little onlne
reading.

Linux really had come a long way. If you liked it then, you might want to
give it another try. A couple of live CDs:

http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/

http://www.novell.com/products/linux...nux/index.html


As always, do what you will - just some advice.

Later,

Tom

Im using outlook express, works great for me has filters so you can filter
out some of the junk posts.

Ed
"bb" wrote in message
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On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:39:22 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The is a very liberal
upgrade policy

Well, I've been using Agent for many years, and have been very happy
with it, but I'll be darned if I'm going to support some gosh darned
liberal software company. Damnit, anybody got a suggestion for a good
old fashioned flag waving, god fearing, family oriented news reader?

Rot In Hell Forte!!!!


bb

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 10:25:27 -0400, thunder
wrote:

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 11:51:11 +0000, Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:


I don't know about your personal coding skills, but in my experience, the
Linux experience is very similar to the early DOS days only there is a
more extensive set of commands.

These days it can be, but it doesn't need to be. Most mainline
distributions can have you up and running as easy or easier than a Windows
install. You can use Linux fully GUI, but you have the option to use the
command line.

I'll tell you the honest truth. I burned out writing long algorithms,
proofing same, diagnosing same plus my regular job back in the
original days when I was involved in some rather heavy theoretical
physics and mathematics. I worked closely with some hyper-brainacs
from high power physics labs around the world and frankly, I'm not
interested in rewriting an operating system to suit me which is what
would happen if I got a hold of open source software. :)

Personally, if you are wanting to experiment, put it on a separate machine
and learn it first before deploying it - that seems to be the way a of of
successful Linux deployments for personal computers seems to go.

The easiest way these days, is a Live CD. You can run Linux of the CD,
without ever having to install onto your hard drive. No muss, no fuss,
albeit slower due to having to decompress.

I know - believe me, I've looked at it more than once. The problem is
that I'm obsessive about these things (which can be a positive trait
in the scientific world), but it's taken me 10 years to decompress
from that environment and just enjoy my computational machinery.

If you are doing this to be away from MS, think it through first. With
Linux you are on your own.

Not really, there is a tremendous amount of support out there. With
Linux, you may not have a support desk to call, but you do have quite a
few newsgroups. I have found Linux to be quite well documented online. I
have never run into a problem that couldn't be solved with a little onlne
reading.

Linux really had come a long way. If you liked it then, you might want to
give it another try. A couple of live CDs:

http://www.pclinuxonline.com/pclos/

http://www.novell.com/products/linux...nux/index.html

~~ gets out a crucifix and waves it at the monitor ~~

BACK - BACK SPAWN OF THE DEVIL - BACK I SAY!!!! :)

On Fri, 05 Aug 2005 14:09:23 GMT, bb wrote:

On Wed, 03 Aug 2005 23:39:22 GMT, Gene Kearns
wrote:

The is a very liberal upgrade policy

Well, I've been using Agent for many years, and have been very happy
with it, but I'll be darned if I'm going to support some gosh darned
liberal software company. Damnit, anybody got a suggestion for a good
old fashioned flag waving, god fearing, family oriented news reader?

Rot In Hell Forte!!!!

Wha?

Oh, wait - I get it - I get jokes.