Best Way to Protect Paddles - Car
 

Any suggestion on what to use to protect my kayak paddles on top of the
car (Rack) ? Bag ? hard case ?

I sometimes put my (Nicer ) paddle in a hard shell gun case . It gets
some curiosity at the airport but that is all. I tie my paddles to the
top of the car when traveling and I can't put it in the car.
Note... Don't use bungies on paddles on the roof. I lost two paddles at
high speed and had to hike back to recover them. They were scratched
but otherwise no worse for the increadible journey i saw in my rear
view. I was luckey that traffic was very light.

I try to keep the paddles inside the car as they can vanish.

I have a buddy who lost a $400.00 paddle off his suv. Thought about
investing in one of those thule or yakima hardshell cases. But they take
up allot of room. Not sure how the thule hullivator will work with paddles.

wrote:
I sometimes put my (Nicer ) paddle in a hard shell gun case . It gets
some curiosity at the airport but that is all. I tie my paddles to the
top of the car when traveling and I can't put it in the car.
Note... Don't use bungies on paddles on the roof. I lost two paddles at
high speed and had to hike back to recover them. They were scratched
but otherwise no worse for the increadible journey i saw in my rear
view. I was luckey that traffic was very light.

I try to keep the paddles inside the car as they can vanish.

It just a thought - use alpine ski bags. You can carry them thru
airports and put them on top of your car. Hmmm.

Drew Cutter wrote:
I have a buddy who lost a $400.00 paddle off his suv. Thought about
investing in one of those thule or yakima hardshell cases. But they take
up allot of room. Not sure how the thule hullivator will work with paddles.

wrote:

I sometimes put my (Nicer ) paddle in a hard shell gun case . It gets
some curiosity at the airport but that is all. I tie my paddles to the
top of the car when traveling and I can't put it in the car.
Note... Don't use bungies on paddles on the roof. I lost two paddles at
high speed and had to hike back to recover them. They were scratched
but otherwise no worse for the increadible journey i saw in my rear
view. I was luckey that traffic was very light.

I try to keep the paddles inside the car as they can vanish.

On 30-Jul-2005, Drew Cutter wrote:

Any suggestion on what to use to protect my kayak paddles on top of the
car (Rack) ? Bag ? hard case ?

What do you mean by protect? - against theft or against damage (like UV, dirt,
rock chips etc?)

Mike

Rocks chips

Michael Daly wrote:
On 30-Jul-2005, Drew Cutter wrote:


Any suggestion on what to use to protect my kayak paddles on top of the
car (Rack) ? Bag ? hard case ?


What do you mean by protect? - against theft or against damage (like UV, dirt,
rock chips etc?)

Mike

Drew Cutter wrote:

Rocks chips

If air above the roads you drive on is so rock strewn as to pose a
threat to a paddle above your roof, don't you end up replacing your
windshield every couple of days?

It's a paddle, man, not a Limoges. It gets hit on rocks every time you
use it. Chill.

Michael Daly wrote:

On 30-Jul-2005, Drew Cutter wrote:

Any suggestion on what to use to protect my kayak paddles on top of the
car (Rack) ? Bag ? hard case ?

What do you mean by protect? - against theft or against damage (like
UV, dirt, rock chips etc?)

UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.

Steve

--
Steve Cramer
Athens, GA

wrote in message
oups.com...
|I sometimes put my (Nicer ) paddle in a hard shell gun case . It gets
| some curiosity at the airport but that is all. I tie my paddles to
the
| top of the car when traveling and I can't put it in the car.
| Note... Don't use bungies on paddles on the roof. I lost two paddles
at
| high speed and had to hike back to recover them. They were scratched
| but otherwise no worse for the increadible journey i saw in my rear
| view. I was luckey that traffic was very light.
SNIP

The traffic was also lucky, I bet you would have felt silly asking the
State Trooper for your paddle back, as soon as they had the blood and
brains of some unsuspecting motorist wiped off them.

On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:

UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.

For some trips, the put-in is days away. I know some folks who leave
their stuff on the roof of the car for days at a time in the driveway.

Mike

On 30-Jul-2005, Drew Cutter wrote:

Rocks chips

I wouldn't worry about that. The odds of getting hit by
a rock chip that would do any damage is slight.

Mike

Michael Daly wrote:
On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:

UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.

For some trips, the put-in is days away. I know some folks who leave
their stuff on the roof of the car for days at a time in the driveway.

And those trips are days long, right?

Anybody who can't be bothered to unpack for days at a time deserves
whatever they get. Now we should be talking theft, not UV.

In any case, is UV much of a problem for fiberglass, carbon, and wood
paddles?

--
Steve Cramer
Athens, GA

yes

"Steve Cramer" wrote in message
...
| Michael Daly wrote:
| On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:
|
| UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.
|
| For some trips, the put-in is days away. I know some folks who
leave
| their stuff on the roof of the car for days at a time in the
driveway.
|
| And those trips are days long, right?
|
| Anybody who can't be bothered to unpack for days at a time deserves
| whatever they get. Now we should be talking theft, not UV.
|
| In any case, is UV much of a problem for fiberglass, carbon, and
wood
| paddles?
|
| --
| Steve Cramer
| Athens, GA

in article , Michael Daly at
wrote on 7/31/05 12:41 PM:

On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:

UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.

For some trips, the put-in is days away. I know some folks who leave
their stuff on the roof of the car for days at a time in the driveway.

Mike

LOL. Reminds me of my mother worrying that our furniture will fade without
drapes. Some people just can't find enough things to worry about. It's
amazing how a recreation can become obsessive fussing.

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
| in article , Michael Daly at
| wrote on 7/31/05 12:41 PM:
|
| On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:
|
| UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.
SNIP|
| LOL. Reminds me of my mother worrying that our furniture will fade
without
| drapes. Some people just can't find enough things to worry about.
It's
| amazing how a recreation can become obsessive fussing.
|
Hmmm - Speaks of mother he does. What would Freud call it? The Oedipus
complex, that's it. No that's not it, Oedipus loved his mother, hated
his father. KMAN on the other hand ridicules his mother for her
apparent worship of material positions, and hence the transposed
aggression to anyone who shows the slightest propensity towards
eliminative materialism. But wait, wasn't that the outcome of what
Freud was talking about when he said "Every new arrival on this planet
is faced by the task of mastering the Oedipus complex; anyone who
fails to do so falls a victim to neurosis." (Sigmund Freud, Three
Essays on the Theory of Sexuality (1905) SE, Volume Seven (London:
Hogarth Press, 1953), p. 226.) And we all know to what else that
failure leads.



So much for the fun stuff, lighten up. If the OP wants to protect the
paddle from UV, road grim, rock chips or even bird sh_t what of it. If
you think it's foolish fine. Don't bother to contribute. BTW sunlight
will fade furniture, upholstery, carpet and anything else not suitably
protected, even little children left out in the sun too long by their
mothers, who were too busy obsessing over the furniture. ;)

--
The Hobbit

Patients are nothing but riff-raff. The only useful purposes they
serve are to help us earn a living and to provide learning material.
In any case, we cannot help them. - Sigmund Freud

Mungo Bulge wrote:

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
| in article , Michael Daly at
| wrote on 7/31/05 12:41 PM:
|
| On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:
|
| UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.
SNIP|
| LOL. Reminds me of my mother worrying that our furniture will fade
without
| drapes. Some people just can't find enough things to worry about.
It's
| amazing how a recreation can become obsessive fussing.
|
Hmmm - Speaks of mother he does. What would Freud call it? The Oedipus
complex, that's it. No that's not it, Oedipus loved his mother, hated
his father. KMAN on the other hand ridicules his mother for her
apparent worship of material positions, and hence the transposed
aggression to anyone who shows the slightest propensity towards
eliminative materialism. But wait, wasn't that the outcome of what
Freud was talking about when he said "Every new arrival on this planet
is faced by the task of mastering the Oedipus complex; anyone who
fails to do so falls a victim to neurosis." (Sigmund Freud, Three
Essays on the Theory of Sexuality (1905) SE, Volume Seven (London:
Hogarth Press, 1953), p. 226.) And we all know to what else that
failure leads.

So much for the fun stuff, lighten up. If the OP wants to protect the
paddle from UV, road grim, rock chips or even bird sh_t what of it. If
you think it's foolish fine. Don't bother to contribute. BTW sunlight
will fade furniture, upholstery, carpet and anything else not suitably
protected, even little children left out in the sun too long by their
mothers, who were too busy obsessing over the furniture. ;)

--
The Hobbit

Patients are nothing but riff-raff. The only useful purposes they
serve are to help us earn a living and to provide learning material.
In any case, we cannot help them. - Sigmund Freud

How about keeping them in side the car?

JAM

Drew, the most inexpensive paddle bags I know of aren't paddle bags,
they are gun socks or ski-snowboard bags.

You can pick up a Remington gunsock for less than $5 at Wally-mart. Ski
bags or snow board bags are a little trickier, but if you bide your
time you can usually find them on end-of-season clearance for $10 - $15.

Any suggestion on what to use to tie the (paddles/skibag) to the rack ?

wrote:
Drew, the most inexpensive paddle bags I know of aren't paddle bags,
they are gun socks or ski-snowboard bags.

You can pick up a Remington gunsock for less than $5 at Wally-mart. Ski
bags or snow board bags are a little trickier, but if you bide your
time you can usually find them on end-of-season clearance for $10 - $15.

http://www.hookandloop.com/site/recstrap.cfm
http://www.us-parks.com/gear_details...y_1725 1.html
http://doityourself.com/store/6589832.htm
http://www.mojosgear.com/html/cstrap98.htm
They're called Velcro cinch straps, just don't use shock cord.

"Drew Cutter" wrote in message
...
| Any suggestion on what to use to tie the (paddles/skibag) to the
rack ?
|
| wrote:
| Drew, the most inexpensive paddle bags I know of aren't paddle
bags,
| they are gun socks or ski-snowboard bags.
|
| You can pick up a Remington gunsock for less than $5 at
Wally-mart. Ski
| bags or snow board bags are a little trickier, but if you bide
your
| time you can usually find them on end-of-season clearance for
$10 - $15.
|

On 1-Aug-2005, "Mungo Bulge" wrote:

They're called Velcro cinch straps,

Velcro loosens up in wet conditions. Rain and road vibration - not a
combination I'd want with this.

in article , Mungo Bulge at
wrote on 8/1/05 12:02 PM:


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
| in article , Michael Daly at
| wrote on 7/31/05 12:41 PM:
|
| On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:
|
| UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.
SNIP|
| LOL. Reminds me of my mother worrying that our furniture will fade
without
| drapes. Some people just can't find enough things to worry about.
It's
| amazing how a recreation can become obsessive fussing.
|
Hmmm - Speaks of mother he does. What would Freud call it? The Oedipus
complex, that's it. No that's not it, Oedipus loved his mother, hated
his father. KMAN on the other hand ridicules his mother for her
apparent worship of material positions, and hence the transposed
aggression to anyone who shows the slightest propensity towards
eliminative materialism. But wait, wasn't that the outcome of what
Freud was talking about when he said "Every new arrival on this planet
is faced by the task of mastering the Oedipus complex; anyone who
fails to do so falls a victim to neurosis." (Sigmund Freud, Three
Essays on the Theory of Sexuality (1905) SE, Volume Seven (London:
Hogarth Press, 1953), p. 226.) And we all know to what else that
failure leads.



So much for the fun stuff, lighten up.

LOL. Heal thyself! See above.

If the OP wants to protect the
paddle from UV, road grim, rock chips or even bird sh_t what of it. If
you think it's foolish fine. Don't bother to contribute. BTW sunlight
will fade furniture, upholstery, carpet and anything else not suitably
protected, even little children left out in the sun too long by their
mothers, who were too busy obsessing over the furniture. ;)

It nevertheless amazes me that someone would fuss over paddling equipment
left in the sun for a day or two! So it might fade to some indescernable
degree. Sheesh. Why get it wet! Something might develop a rust stain!

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that. You'd think I would have lost at
least one in the past twenty years. That is what I use to hold my 9.5
foot double ended paddle to my role bar on my Jeep. Come to think of
it, I've also used them to hold my canoe on the role bar (I have some
realy long ones). I guess I'll have to stop using them on my Jeep,
motorcycle, backpack, canoe, cycle, and snowmobile sleigh. However,
just to be on the safe side, I have taken the liberty of CC'ing Velcro
Industries to see what they have to say for themselves. Thanks
Michael.

"Michael Daly" wrote in message
...
|
| On 1-Aug-2005, "Mungo Bulge" wrote:
|
| They're called Velcro cinch straps,
|
| Velcro loosens up in wet conditions. Rain and road vibration - not
a
| combination I'd want with this.

in article , Johnny Thunder at "Johnny
wrote on 8/1/05 1:34 PM:

Mungo Bulge wrote:

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
| in article , Michael Daly at
| wrote on 7/31/05 12:41 PM:
|
| On 30-Jul-2005, Steve Cramer wrote:
|
| UV? On the drive to the put in? Give me a break.
SNIP|
| LOL. Reminds me of my mother worrying that our furniture will fade
without
| drapes. Some people just can't find enough things to worry about.
It's
| amazing how a recreation can become obsessive fussing.
|
Hmmm - Speaks of mother he does. What would Freud call it? The Oedipus
complex, that's it. No that's not it, Oedipus loved his mother, hated
his father. KMAN on the other hand ridicules his mother for her
apparent worship of material positions, and hence the transposed
aggression to anyone who shows the slightest propensity towards
eliminative materialism. But wait, wasn't that the outcome of what
Freud was talking about when he said "Every new arrival on this planet
is faced by the task of mastering the Oedipus complex; anyone who
fails to do so falls a victim to neurosis." (Sigmund Freud, Three
Essays on the Theory of Sexuality (1905) SE, Volume Seven (London:
Hogarth Press, 1953), p. 226.) And we all know to what else that
failure leads.

So much for the fun stuff, lighten up. If the OP wants to protect the
paddle from UV, road grim, rock chips or even bird sh_t what of it. If
you think it's foolish fine. Don't bother to contribute. BTW sunlight
will fade furniture, upholstery, carpet and anything else not suitably
protected, even little children left out in the sun too long by their
mothers, who were too busy obsessing over the furniture. ;)

--
The Hobbit

Patients are nothing but riff-raff. The only useful purposes they
serve are to help us earn a living and to provide learning material.
In any case, we cannot help them. - Sigmund Freud

How about keeping them in side the car?

JAM

There is no special expertise required for that solution, therefore it is
invalid. But thank you for trying!

in article , Mungo Bulge at
wrote on 8/1/05 9:02 PM:

Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that.

What you might want to do is attach some velcro fasteners to your car, and
using a poweful digital camera mounted on the car and set in an auto-shoot
mood, take pictures of the fasteners in action for a period of several
months in all types of weather. Use the photos to analyze the loosening of
the velcro, if any, and report back as to whether it is truly unsafe.

You'd think I would have lost at least one in the past twenty years.

You are obviously just lucky, but nevertheless ignorant.

That is what I use to hold my 9.5
foot double ended paddle to my role bar on my Jeep. Come to think of
it, I've also used them to hold my canoe on the role bar (I have some
realy long ones). I guess I'll have to stop using them on my Jeep,
motorcycle, backpack, canoe, cycle, and snowmobile sleigh.

Correct. You have not only endangered your equipment, but the lives of the
many people who have been in proximity as you've driven by in your various
vehicles. Your reckless use of velcro means you are a borderline criminal.
Why did you not at least consult this group before foolishly proceding in
this manner?

However,
just to be on the safe side, I have taken the liberty of CC'ing Velcro
Industries to see what they have to say for themselves. Thanks
Michael.

Perhaps it will arrive just after my letter, congratulating them for a
product that has held up against gale force winds and thunderstorms in
securing the bug screen on my porch.







"Michael Daly" wrote in message
...
|
| On 1-Aug-2005, "Mungo Bulge" wrote:
|
| They're called Velcro cinch straps,
|
| Velcro loosens up in wet conditions. Rain and road vibration - not
a
| combination I'd want with this.

Reading comprehension gone too, I don't have a car. KMAN is right, I
am not qualified to answerer the question. But I bet KMAN was really
traumatised as a kid by those drapes mother wanted to shield the
furniture from the sun. ;)
"KMAN" wrote in message
...
| in article , Mungo Bulge at
| wrote on 8/1/05 9:02 PM:
|
| Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that.
|
| What you might want to do is attach some velcro fasteners to your
car, and
| using a poweful digital camera mounted on the car and set in an
auto-shoot
| mood, take pictures of the fasteners in action for a period of
several
| months in all types of weather. Use the photos to analyze the
loosening of
| the velcro, if any, and report back as to whether it is truly
unsafe.
|
| You'd think I would have lost at least one in the past twenty
years.
|
| You are obviously just lucky, but nevertheless ignorant.
|
| That is what I use to hold my 9.5
| foot double ended paddle to my role bar on my Jeep. Come to think
of
| it, I've also used them to hold my canoe on the role bar (I have
some
| realy long ones). I guess I'll have to stop using them on my Jeep,
| motorcycle, backpack, canoe, cycle, and snowmobile sleigh.
|
| Correct. You have not only endangered your equipment, but the lives
of the
| many people who have been in proximity as you've driven by in your
various
| vehicles. Your reckless use of velcro means you are a borderline
criminal.
| Why did you not at least consult this group before foolishly
proceding in
| this manner?
|
| However,
| just to be on the safe side, I have taken the liberty of CC'ing
Velcro
| Industries to see what they have to say for themselves. Thanks
| Michael.
|
| Perhaps it will arrive just after my letter, congratulating them for
a
| product that has held up against gale force winds and thunderstorms
in
| securing the bug screen on my porch.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Michael Daly" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | On 1-Aug-2005, "Mungo Bulge" wrote:
| |
| | They're called Velcro cinch straps,
| |
| | Velcro loosens up in wet conditions. Rain and road vibration -
not
| a
| | combination I'd want with this.
|
|
|

in article , Mungo Bulge at
wrote on 8/1/05 10:20 PM:

Reading comprehension gone too, I don't have a car. KMAN is right, I
am not qualified to answerer the question. But I bet KMAN was really
traumatised as a kid by those drapes mother wanted to shield the
furniture from the sun. ;)

LOL. Just to clarify, I am talking about the house my wife and I live in now
(my mother has her own house). She's all in a fret that we don't have drapes
to protect the furniture. I find putting drapes all over the house is like
living in a big coffin :-)


"KMAN" wrote in message
...
| in article , Mungo Bulge at
| wrote on 8/1/05 9:02 PM:
|
| Thanks, I'll keep an eye on that.
|
| What you might want to do is attach some velcro fasteners to your
car, and
| using a poweful digital camera mounted on the car and set in an
auto-shoot
| mood, take pictures of the fasteners in action for a period of
several
| months in all types of weather. Use the photos to analyze the
loosening of
| the velcro, if any, and report back as to whether it is truly
unsafe.
|
| You'd think I would have lost at least one in the past twenty
years.
|
| You are obviously just lucky, but nevertheless ignorant.
|
| That is what I use to hold my 9.5
| foot double ended paddle to my role bar on my Jeep. Come to think
of
| it, I've also used them to hold my canoe on the role bar (I have
some
| realy long ones). I guess I'll have to stop using them on my Jeep,
| motorcycle, backpack, canoe, cycle, and snowmobile sleigh.
|
| Correct. You have not only endangered your equipment, but the lives
of the
| many people who have been in proximity as you've driven by in your
various
| vehicles. Your reckless use of velcro means you are a borderline
criminal.
| Why did you not at least consult this group before foolishly
proceding in
| this manner?
|
| However,
| just to be on the safe side, I have taken the liberty of CC'ing
Velcro
| Industries to see what they have to say for themselves. Thanks
| Michael.
|
| Perhaps it will arrive just after my letter, congratulating them for
a
| product that has held up against gale force winds and thunderstorms
in
| securing the bug screen on my porch.
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
| "Michael Daly" wrote in message
| ...
| |
| | On 1-Aug-2005, "Mungo Bulge" wrote:
| |
| | They're called Velcro cinch straps,
| |
| | Velcro loosens up in wet conditions. Rain and road vibration -
not
| a
| | combination I'd want with this.
|
|
|

On 1-Aug-2005, "Mungo Bulge" wrote:

I have taken the liberty of CC'ing Velcro
Industries to see what they have to say for themselves.

Velcro's competition makes fasteners for marine and wet environments
that aren't hook and loop - like 3M Dual Lock. Someone obviously
knows what's going on.

Mike

KMAN: " Some people just can't find enough things to worry about. It's
amazing how a recreation can become obsessive fussing."
=========

TOO RIGHT!!!

"KMAN" wrote in message
...
| in article , Mungo Bulge at
| wrote on 8/1/05 10:20 PM:
|
| Reading comprehension gone too, I don't have a car. KMAN is right,
I
| am not qualified to answerer the question. But I bet KMAN was
really
| traumatised as a kid by those drapes mother wanted to shield the
| furniture from the sun. ;)
|
| LOL. Just to clarify, I am talking about the house my wife and I
live in now
| (my mother has her own house). She's all in a fret that we don't
have drapes
| to protect the furniture. I find putting drapes all over the house
is like
| living in a big coffin :-)

Yah sure, whatever.

in article , BCITORGB
at wrote on 8/2/05 7:16 PM:

KMAN: " Some people just can't find enough things to worry about. It's
amazing how a recreation can become obsessive fussing."
=========

TOO RIGHT!!!

LOL. The way certain members of this group talk about paddling reminds me of
the old SNL skit with the Anal Retentive Chef. Remember that? Try to think
what rbp posters could take over the job of Gene. Here's how Gene disposes
of garbage:

(from http://www.goodeatsfanpage.com/Humor/SNL/Anal.htm)

===

[Background: the anal retentive chef is preparing a steak with bell peppers,
but stops to remove one of the peppers because it is not the same size as
the others]

And how do we throw things out? Okay. We take our paper towel, two
pieces, unbroken, lay it out neatly, dump the refuse inside, arranged neatly
.... [assembles the garbage] ... let's take these little nasties we separated
earlier, put that back ... fold over carefully, making sure the corners are
square ... and ... we take a piece of aluminum foil, and we place our refuse
onto the foil, and fold over very carefully - this way, it won't leak onto
the other garbage. Aluminum foil is such a miracle product! It's really an
extraordinary product.

Alright, and then we take a brown, paper sandwich bag ... [opens bag]
....place the refuse inside ... [drops it in] ...and ... oh no, this bag is
torn.. [looks around] Well ... no, that's alright. We'll just fold over, and
no one will see. We'll fold it over twice to be careful ... then we get our
tape. [grabs tape, which is naturally covered in a cozy] And, we tape it
shut - be very careful to center the tape on the bag. I like to keep my tape
dispenser right here on the counter. There we go! [holds up bag] All ready
for the trash. Now that's some garbage you can live with! [laughs]

Alright, I noticed some of you were admiring my tape dispenser cozy. Isn't
that pretty? I made it myself, out of toothpicks, felt, plain old buckroom,
a couple of pearl buttons and some eyelets. Now, isn't that better than
looking at an old tape dispenser? I think so! Alright. Let's set this over
here. [places tape dispenser onto the counter next to the sink, behind him]

Okay, where were we?

----

Cheers,

Keenan

PS: If anyone would care to write an anal retentive paddler script (without
copying any of the actual writing from this protect paddles thread) I bet it
would be a riot!