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The Increasingly Ugly Left
"It's always shocking when the left unmasks itself - it's usually very brief
but when it happens not only can't you turn away, it's actually important that you don't. While it would seem impossible, the left has found a new low, this time courtesy of both the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. On the same day, both newspapers published bizarre attacks on the most basic values of personal appearance and physical health of the president and those he supports. It's the newest indication of how frustrated and frenzied the left has grown in the face of an America which refuses to join them in their drowning pool."............................................ .......................... ....... .................................................. ........................... ............................."Of course, on the Left, one gets lost in groupthink. Personal health, exercise and being aware of one's own body in itself is an indication that you're conscious of yourself. Yet it is personal unconsciousness which is encouraged and fostered in leftist activist and leadership circles. Being Unhealthy and celebrating the Ungroomed is an art form on the Left. And ultimately, as evidenced by Chait's opinion piece, those who do take care of themselves, and dare to remind society of how things should be, are demonized. Why? Because they serve as a counterpoint to what the Left is not. You see, it now cannot be ignored that one side of the political spectrum even looks unwell. And how does the Left strive to make that irrelevant? By marginalizing those who are unlike them - the physically healthy, those who actually take care of themselves, are to be mocked and shunned".......................................... .......................... ..................................... http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...6/113857.shtml This explains it all about Harry, Kevin, Don, etc etc. |
Good article. Thanks.
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 10:44:11 -0400, "P. Fritz" wrote: "It's always shocking when the left unmasks itself - it's usually very brief but when it happens not only can't you turn away, it's actually important that you don't. While it would seem impossible, the left has found a new low, this time courtesy of both the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. On the same day, both newspapers published bizarre attacks on the most basic values of personal appearance and physical health of the president and those he supports. It's the newest indication of how frustrated and frenzied the left has grown in the face of an America which refuses to join them in their drowning pool."........................................... ........................... ...... ................................................. ........................... ............................"Of course, on the Left, one gets lost in groupthink. Personal health, exercise and being aware of one's own body in itself is an indication that you're conscious of yourself. Yet it is personal unconsciousness which is encouraged and fostered in leftist activist and leadership circles. Being Unhealthy and celebrating the Ungroomed is an art form on the Left. And ultimately, as evidenced by Chait's opinion piece, those who do take care of themselves, and dare to remind society of how things should be, are demonized. Why? Because they serve as a counterpoint to what the Left is not. You see, it now cannot be ignored that one side of the political spectrum even looks unwell. And how does the Left strive to make that irrelevant? By marginalizing those who are unlike them - the physically healthy, those who actually take care of themselves, are to be mocked and shunned"......................................... ........................... .................................... http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...6/113857.shtml This explains it all about Harry, Kevin, Don, etc etc. -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
HarryKrause wrote: P. Fritz wrote: "It's always shocking when the left unmasks itself - it's usually very brief but when it happens not only can't you turn away, it's actually important that you don't. While it would seem impossible, the left has found a new low, this time courtesy of both the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. On the same day, both newspapers published bizarre attacks on the most basic values of personal appearance and physical health of the president and those he supports. It's the newest indication of how frustrated and frenzied the left has grown in the face of an America which refuses to join them in their drowning pool."............................................ .......................... ...... .................................................. .......................... ............................"Of course, on the Left, one gets lost in groupthink. Personal health, exercise and being aware of one's own body in itself is an indication that you're conscious of yourself. Yet it is personal unconsciousness which is encouraged and fostered in leftist activist and leadership circles. Being Unhealthy and celebrating the Ungroomed is an art form on the Left. And ultimately, as evidenced by Chait's opinion piece, those who do take care of themselves, and dare to remind society of how things should be, are demonized. Why? Because they serve as a counterpoint to what the Left is not. You see, it now cannot be ignored that one side of the political spectrum even looks unwell. And how does the Left strive to make that irrelevant? By marginalizing those who are unlike them - the physically healthy, those who actually take care of themselves, are to be mocked and shunned".......................................... .......................... .................................... http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...6/113857.shtml This explains it all about Harry, Kevin, Don, etc etc. Wow...Fritz has become Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper. Betcha he's also worried about his precious bodily fluids, too. Now that JimH is being quite, he's taken to ramming his nose up NOYB's ass, instead. |
John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. |
"John H." wrote in message ... On 27 Jul 2005 09:14:03 -0700, wrote: HarryKrause wrote: P. Fritz wrote: "It's always shocking when the left unmasks itself - it's usually very brief but when it happens not only can't you turn away, it's actually important that you don't. While it would seem impossible, the left has found a new low, this time courtesy of both the Washington Post and the Los Angeles Times. On the same day, both newspapers published bizarre attacks on the most basic values of personal appearance and physical health of the president and those he supports. It's the newest indication of how frustrated and frenzied the left has grown in the face of an America which refuses to join them in their drowning pool."............................................ .......................... ...... .................................................. ........................... ............................"Of course, on the Left, one gets lost in groupthink. Personal health, exercise and being aware of one's own body in itself is an indication that you're conscious of yourself. Yet it is personal unconsciousness which is encouraged and fostered in leftist activist and leadership circles. Being Unhealthy and celebrating the Ungroomed is an art form on the Left. And ultimately, as evidenced by Chait's opinion piece, those who do take care of themselves, and dare to remind society of how things should be, are demonized. Why? Because they serve as a counterpoint to what the Left is not. You see, it now cannot be ignored that one side of the political spectrum even looks unwell. And how does the Left strive to make that irrelevant? By marginalizing those who are unlike them - the physically healthy, those who actually take care of themselves, are to be mocked and shunned".......................................... .......................... .................................... http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...6/113857.shtml This explains it all about Harry, Kevin, Don, etc etc. Wow...Fritz has become Brig. Gen. Jack D. Ripper. Betcha he's also worried about his precious bodily fluids, too. Now that JimH is being quite, he's taken to ramming his nose up NOYB's ass, instead. Is adolescence that difficult to outgrow, Kevin? Kevin will never outgrow stupidity.......... Kevin and Harry certainly were quick to take offense at the article.......must have hit to close to home LMAO -- John H. On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD |
wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. |
wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." (Double whammy on the second one- a nasty crack about Chelsea's looks as well as an implication about Hillary's sexual preferences.) Perhaps being denounced as "ugly" at a Republican Senate fundraiser or called a "dog" on television does not meet your standard of "poor or inappropriate treatment," but if it did- those would be two of many available examples. (In the interest of full disclosu Rush Limbaugh has publicly apologized for a series of inappropriate and hurtful remarks made against Chelsea Clinton. That may be classier behavior than exhibited by any of his apostles who now claim he never made any.) |
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wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: I ammended nothing Chuck. The original claim was "Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter." Note the key word *Republican* Chuck. Nice try. On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Not saying you are wrong but............Cite? Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Again, a cite would be appreciated. If they indeed said those things, they were wrong....dead wrong. The President's children are always off limits to snide remarks or jokes being made about them. Chelsea turned out to be a great kid and has a great future ahead of her. |
On 27 Jul 2005 13:42:04 -0700, "
wrote: Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: Perhaps being denounced as "ugly" at a Republican Senate fundraiser or called a "dog" on television does not meet your standard of "poor or inappropriate treatment," but if it did- those would be two of many available examples. It's done all the time in the name of humor. That's what your two examples are of, if they truely did even happen. How about all the remarks at that infamous Democratic fundraiser a couple of years ago. Were they all in humor as well? Or do you think a few of them were mean-spirited? Hmmm... Tune into Leno one night. Your head would be swimming for a week. |
HarryKrause wrote:
Why would anyone care what you assume, Hertvik? JimH is a big man in his own mind...thinks he leads a sizable flock under his pastoral care. (really it's about four or five...no matter how many names Smithers uses) |
"*JimH*" wrote in message ... wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: I ammended nothing Chuck. The original claim was "Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter." Note the key word *Republican* Chuck. Nice try. On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Not saying you are wrong but............Cite? Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Again, a cite would be appreciated. If they indeed said those things, they were wrong....dead wrong. The President's children are always off limits to snide remarks or jokes being made about them. Chelsea turned out to be a great kid and has a great future ahead of her. BTW Chuck: Do you find these jokes and comments acceptable about GWB's daughters? http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/002757.html http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...winsinjail.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinjokes.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinspics.htm It seems it happens on both sides of the fence Chuck. And neither side is right in doing it. |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: I ammended nothing Chuck. The original claim was "Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter." Note the key word *Republican* Chuck. Nice try. Nonsense. Wow- look at the thread! You amended the term "Republican lemmings" to "Republicans". Surely you were fully aware that "Republican lemmings" would include statements by almost anybody professing to be a Republican, while restricting the description to "Republicans" allows you to potentially counterargue that the statements weren't officially issued by the GOP? On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Not saying you are wrong but............Cite? Typing "Rush Limbaugh Chelsea Clinton Dog" into Google brought up 106 hits. Take your pick. Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Again, a cite would be appreciated. Typing "John McCain Chelsea Clinton Ugly" into Google brings up 70 hits. Once again, take your pick. There will surely be at least one source you're willing to accept but this discussion will likely become sidetracked on the credibility of my source rather than the statement itself if I cite one at random. If they indeed said those things, they were wrong....dead wrong. The President's children are always off limits to snide remarks or jokes being made about them. Chelsea turned out to be a great kid and has a great future ahead of her. The evidence is that they did indeed say those things. Hateful things are said regularly, by a wide variety of people with many political perspectives. I only submitted these two examples in response to your challenge to provide some proof that Republicans had treated Chelsea poorly or inappropriately, and it seems that we agree they did. |
Jack Goff wrote: On 27 Jul 2005 13:42:04 -0700, " wrote: Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: Perhaps being denounced as "ugly" at a Republican Senate fundraiser or called a "dog" on television does not meet your standard of "poor or inappropriate treatment," but if it did- those would be two of many available examples. It's done all the time in the name of humor. That's what your two examples are of, if they truely did even happen. How about all the remarks at that infamous Democratic fundraiser a couple of years ago. Were they all in humor as well? Or do you think a few of them were mean-spirited? Hmmm... Tune into Leno one night. Your head would be swimming for a week. Jack, I did not attempt to argue that only Republicans say cruel things. I offered those two examples in response to a challenge to furnish any example of "poor or inappropriate treatment" of Chelsea Clinton by "Republican lemmings". |
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wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: I ammended nothing Chuck. The original claim was "Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter." Note the key word *Republican* Chuck. Nice try. Nonsense. Wow- look at the thread! You amended the term "Republican lemmings" to "Republicans". Bull. On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Not saying you are wrong but............Cite? Typing "Rush Limbaugh Chelsea Clinton Dog" into Google brought up 106 hits. Take your pick. Fair enough. But you have still yet to privide a specific link to your allegation. Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Again, a cite would be appreciated. Typing "John McCain Chelsea Clinton Ugly" into Google brings up 70 hits. Once again, take your pick. There will surely be at least one source you're willing to accept but this discussion will likely become sidetracked on the credibility of my source rather than the statement itself if I cite one at random. Knowing you would put the burden on me to prove or disprove what you claim, as you usually do, I did my own googling and found what you said to be true. Why you kick and scream like a 3 year old when asked to provide specific proof or a link is beyond me, especially when all you have to do is copy and paste the link. I can teach you how to do that if you need help. If they indeed said those things, they were wrong....dead wrong. The President's children are always off limits to snide remarks or jokes being made about them. Chelsea turned out to be a great kid and has a great future ahead of her. The evidence is that they did indeed say those things. What evidence? You have not provided any. Hateful things are said regularly, by a wide variety of people with many political perspectives. I only submitted these two examples in response to your challenge to provide some proof that Republicans had treated Chelsea poorly or inappropriately, and it seems that we agree they did. I agree. The President's children are off limits. You never addressed my other post to this thread so I will repeat it: Do you find these jokes and comments acceptable about GWB's daughters? http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/002757.html http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...winsinjail.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinjokes.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinspics.htm Did you approve of Kerry dragging Cheney's daughter into the Presidential debates? If I recall, you thought that was appropriate. Double standards Chuck? |
On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:14:22 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote: Ahh, humor. So, when the Bush twins check into the Betty Ford Center, it'll be ok to joke about it? *If* that ever happens, they'll be fair game, just like everyone else has been in the past. It was someone else in this thread that had a problem with it, I never suggested otherwise. I just pointed out that it was commonly done. |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: I ammended nothing Chuck. The original claim was "Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter." Note the key word *Republican* Chuck. Nice try. Nonsense. Wow- look at the thread! You amended the term "Republican lemmings" to "Republicans". Bull. On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Not saying you are wrong but............Cite? Typing "Rush Limbaugh Chelsea Clinton Dog" into Google brought up 106 hits. Take your pick. Fair enough. But you have still yet to privide a specific link to your allegation. Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Again, a cite would be appreciated. Typing "John McCain Chelsea Clinton Ugly" into Google brings up 70 hits. Once again, take your pick. There will surely be at least one source you're willing to accept but this discussion will likely become sidetracked on the credibility of my source rather than the statement itself if I cite one at random. Knowing you would put the burden on me to prove or disprove what you claim, as you usually do, I did my own googling and found what you said to be true. Why you kick and scream like a 3 year old when asked to provide specific proof or a link is beyond me, especially when all you have to do is copy and paste the link. I can teach you how to do that if you need help. If they indeed said those things, they were wrong....dead wrong. The President's children are always off limits to snide remarks or jokes being made about them. Chelsea turned out to be a great kid and has a great future ahead of her. The evidence is that they did indeed say those things. What evidence? You have not provided any. Hateful things are said regularly, by a wide variety of people with many political perspectives. I only submitted these two examples in response to your challenge to provide some proof that Republicans had treated Chelsea poorly or inappropriately, and it seems that we agree they did. I agree. The President's children are off limits. You never addressed my other post to this thread so I will repeat it: Do you find these jokes and comments acceptable about GWB's daughters? http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/002757.html http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...winsinjail.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinjokes.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinspics.htm Did you approve of Kerry dragging Cheney's daughter into the Presidential debates? If I recall, you thought that was appropriate. Double standards Chuck? ????????????????? 1) I learn slow but I learn well. Providing you with a specific cite only leads to an argument about the credibility of the cite as a diversion from the central point. As I said, take your pick from the scores of cites available as one or more will be among a group you consider acceptably conservative. 2) No, jokes about Bush's daughters are also tasteless and inappropriate. I am not defending jokes about Bush's daughters- merely answering your specific challenge to provide an example of poor or inappropriate treatment of Chelsea Clinton by people professing to be Republicans. 3) You apparently have me confused with somebody else on the Cheney's daughter issue, I do think all kids should be left out of campaigns. We're not electing the kids. However, if you recall the context of the remark I believe it was John Edwards, (not John Kerry), who mentioned the VP's daughter during the VP debate and the entire statement was that Edwards admired the love and support the Cheney's showed for their own lesbian daughter. How funny that this kind and encouraging remark was considered a gross insult by the right wing. It has long been a known fact that Cheney's daughter is a self described lesbian- but only people with a really backward attitude toward homosexuality would presume that having a gay kid is a mark of substandard parenting or that mentioning the relationship is an insult. Cheney's general unfitness for public office has nothing to do, at all, with his daughter's sexuality. :-) |
"Jack Goff" wrote in message ... On Wed, 27 Jul 2005 17:14:22 -0400, HarryKrause wrote: Ahh, humor. So, when the Bush twins check into the Betty Ford Center, it'll be ok to joke about it? *If* that ever happens, they'll be fair game, just like everyone else has been in the past. It was someone else in this thread that had a problem with it, I never suggested otherwise. I just pointed out that it was commonly done. I still say that the President's children are off limits to jokes and snide remarks, regardless of political affiliation. I also repeat that Chelsea is a beautiful and smart lady who has a wonderful future ahead of her. The remark by McCain was uncalled for and not something one would expect to hear from any professional. But, as was pointed out in my earlier post, remarks and jokes like that are unfortunately made on both sides of the fence, although not proper or condoned. It is not a republican or democrat issue. It is a poor taste issue. |
wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: I ammended nothing Chuck. The original claim was "Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter." Note the key word *Republican* Chuck. Nice try. Nonsense. Wow- look at the thread! You amended the term "Republican lemmings" to "Republicans". Bull. On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Not saying you are wrong but............Cite? Typing "Rush Limbaugh Chelsea Clinton Dog" into Google brought up 106 hits. Take your pick. Fair enough. But you have still yet to privide a specific link to your allegation. Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Again, a cite would be appreciated. Typing "John McCain Chelsea Clinton Ugly" into Google brings up 70 hits. Once again, take your pick. There will surely be at least one source you're willing to accept but this discussion will likely become sidetracked on the credibility of my source rather than the statement itself if I cite one at random. Knowing you would put the burden on me to prove or disprove what you claim, as you usually do, I did my own googling and found what you said to be true. Why you kick and scream like a 3 year old when asked to provide specific proof or a link is beyond me, especially when all you have to do is copy and paste the link. I can teach you how to do that if you need help. If they indeed said those things, they were wrong....dead wrong. The President's children are always off limits to snide remarks or jokes being made about them. Chelsea turned out to be a great kid and has a great future ahead of her. The evidence is that they did indeed say those things. What evidence? You have not provided any. Hateful things are said regularly, by a wide variety of people with many political perspectives. I only submitted these two examples in response to your challenge to provide some proof that Republicans had treated Chelsea poorly or inappropriately, and it seems that we agree they did. I agree. The President's children are off limits. You never addressed my other post to this thread so I will repeat it: Do you find these jokes and comments acceptable about GWB's daughters? http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/002757.html http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...winsinjail.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinjokes.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinspics.htm Did you approve of Kerry dragging Cheney's daughter into the Presidential debates? If I recall, you thought that was appropriate. Double standards Chuck? ????????????????? 1) I learn slow but I learn well. Understood. 2) No, jokes about Bush's daughters are also tasteless and inappropriate. I am not defending jokes about Bush's daughters- merely answering your specific challenge to provide an example of poor or inappropriate treatment of Chelsea Clinton by people professing to be Republicans. Fair enough. There are assholes on both sides of the fence. Do you agree? 3) You apparently have me confused with somebody else on the Cheney's daughter issue, I do think all kids should be left out of campaigns. We're not electing the kids. However, if you recall the context of the remark I believe it was John Edwards, (not John Kerry), who mentioned the VP's daughter during the VP debate So that make it appropriate? Nope. Keep the kids out of it, as you previously stated. |
On 27 Jul 2005 15:14:04 -0700, "
wrote: I did not attempt to argue that only Republicans say cruel things. True. But you did sidestep the questions I posed to you about nasty (or is it humorous?) remarks made by the Democratic lemmings. Once again, do you feel they were inappropriate? I offered those two examples in response to a challenge to furnish any example of "poor or inappropriate treatment" of Chelsea Clinton by "Republican lemmings". I guess the definition of "poor or inappropriate" is in the eye of the beholder. One was a joke at a Republican fundraiser to a decidedly partisan audience, and the other an expected joke/jab by a talk show host who is paid to do just that. And neither are lemmings. Besides, face it... although she's improved with age, Chelsie was a double-bagger back in those days. Coyote. :-) |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, Assuming that Rush Limbaugh and Senator John McCain fall into the category used in the original claim (before you amended it to "Republicans") here are two very well known examples: I ammended nothing Chuck. The original claim was "Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter." Note the key word *Republican* Chuck. Nice try. Nonsense. Wow- look at the thread! You amended the term "Republican lemmings" to "Republicans". Bull. On his television show, Rush Limbaugh announced to his audience that the new White House occupants had a dog. He then held up a picture of Chelsea Clinton. Not saying you are wrong but............Cite? Typing "Rush Limbaugh Chelsea Clinton Dog" into Google brought up 106 hits. Take your pick. Fair enough. But you have still yet to privide a specific link to your allegation. Senator John McCain, at a Republican Senate fundraiser, said "Why is Chelsea Clinton so ugly? Because her father is Janet Reno." Again, a cite would be appreciated. Typing "John McCain Chelsea Clinton Ugly" into Google brings up 70 hits. Once again, take your pick. There will surely be at least one source you're willing to accept but this discussion will likely become sidetracked on the credibility of my source rather than the statement itself if I cite one at random. Knowing you would put the burden on me to prove or disprove what you claim, as you usually do, I did my own googling and found what you said to be true. Why you kick and scream like a 3 year old when asked to provide specific proof or a link is beyond me, especially when all you have to do is copy and paste the link. I can teach you how to do that if you need help. If they indeed said those things, they were wrong....dead wrong. The President's children are always off limits to snide remarks or jokes being made about them. Chelsea turned out to be a great kid and has a great future ahead of her. The evidence is that they did indeed say those things. What evidence? You have not provided any. Hateful things are said regularly, by a wide variety of people with many political perspectives. I only submitted these two examples in response to your challenge to provide some proof that Republicans had treated Chelsea poorly or inappropriately, and it seems that we agree they did. I agree. The President's children are off limits. You never addressed my other post to this thread so I will repeat it: Do you find these jokes and comments acceptable about GWB's daughters? http://www.blogsforbush.com/mt/archives/002757.html http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...winsinjail.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinjokes.htm http://politicalhumor.about.com/libr...htwinspics.htm Did you approve of Kerry dragging Cheney's daughter into the Presidential debates? If I recall, you thought that was appropriate. Double standards Chuck? ????????????????? 1) I learn slow but I learn well. Understood. 2) No, jokes about Bush's daughters are also tasteless and inappropriate. I am not defending jokes about Bush's daughters- merely answering your specific challenge to provide an example of poor or inappropriate treatment of Chelsea Clinton by people professing to be Republicans. Fair enough. There are assholes on both sides of the fence. Do you agree? Absolutely. Assholes come in all sizes, shapes, and political affiliations: liberal, conservative, democrat, republican, .......on and on, you name it. 3) You apparently have me confused with somebody else on the Cheney's daughter issue, I do think all kids should be left out of campaigns. We're not electing the kids. However, if you recall the context of the remark I believe it was John Edwards, (not John Kerry), who mentioned the VP's daughter during the VP debate So that make it appropriate? Nope. Keep the kids out of it, as you previously stated. That door has to swing both ways. As I recall the VP debates, Edwards only mentioned Cheney's daughter *after* Cheney had trotted her out as evidence that he and Mrs. Cheney were really, truly, absolutely, seriously, so-help-me, open-minded about homosexuality. Once you put your own kid in play as a political pawn, its ridiculous to become outraged when the opposition mentions her name- and especially in a favorable context about family loyalty and support. |
Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons,
INCLUDING their daughter...." Bill did a good enough job "treating" himself. concerning his daughter? I never touched her |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, I'm not Kevin. If you ask ME, I'll certainly answer. |
John H. wrote: On 27 Jul 2005 13:06:34 -0700, wrote: I'm not Kevin. Can you offer proof of that claim, Yes. or is that just another wild-assed assertion? No. |
wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, I'm not Kevin. If you ask ME, I'll certainly answer. Why would you answer when if I direct the question to 'ME' Kevin? |
*JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, I'm not Kevin. If you ask ME, I'll certainly answer. Why would you answer when if I direct the question to 'ME' Kevin? I'm not Kevin. |
wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message oups.com... *JimH* wrote: wrote in message ups.com... John H. wrote: Good article. Thanks. Not even CLOSE to the way the Republican lemmings treated the Clintons, INCLUDING their daughter. Exactly how was Chelsea Clinton treated poorly or inappropriately by the *Republicans* Kevin? I'm not Kevin. Sure you are. Now answer the question Kevin. If not I will assume that you cannot and that you make things up and then post them here as *facts*, I'm not Kevin. If you ask ME, I'll certainly answer. Why would you answer when if I direct the question to 'ME' Kevin? I'm not Kevin. And Clinton did not have sex with that woman. Whatever you say Kevin. |
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