"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
It sounds like all you are looking for is a well spoken shyster who can
sweet talk and scam people out of their money and then write up a good
report of the transaction......sort of like your old job where you stole
money from union members....can you say Ullico?

Maybe you should recruit Chuck. He used to sell used cars and would be
perfect for your company.


Attempt to start snot fight noted. Again.

What's that whine-line you trot out when people take your bait,
something about obsession? I wish you'd revive that old chestnut you
used to rely on, "It must suck to be you!" A little variety would be
appreciated.

Cast elsewhere, a tiny nibble but no bite here.



Indeed. Incidentally, there were never any accusations ULLICO stole money
from union members. Au contraire; part of ULLICO's problem in its
insurance business was that it was using investment income to subsidize
health insurance premiums it charged member unions and their members.

No policyholder has lost a nickel because of ULLICO, nor failed to have
legitimate claims paid, and no one with any brains has made such a charge.
ULLICO's problem was that certain senior officers and board members took
advantage of corporate rules that allowed them to buy and sell privately
held shares on terms more advantageous than those offered the small list
of remaining shareholders. Ownership of ULLICO shares is limited to unions
and their financial agents, members of the board, and senior officers of
the company.


You've read Harry's spin about what happened. Now here's the truth from a
report issued by the U.S. Senate Committee on Governmental Affairs:



( The 98-page majority staff report can be accessed on NLPC's website at
http://www.nlpc.org/pdfs/ULLICO%20Report.pdf.)



Key findings of the report include the following:



Although ULLICO (Union Labor Life Insurance Company) was a corporation
directed by leaders of organized labor, Georgine and other mgrs. structured
stock transactions largely for the benefit of insiders rather than the union
members whose unions and pension funds were the company's primary
shareholders. In the late 90s, ULLICO invested $7.6 million in Global
Crossing and realized an after-tax gain of about $305 million. These gains
temporarily masked operating losses in ULLICO's core businesses and created
the false impression that management was running the company successfully.
Senior executives used this illusion of success to justify unwarranted
increases in their compensation and benefits.



ULLICO insiders exploited the temporary windfall from the Global Crossing
investment to enrich themselves by orchestrating manipulative transactions
in ULLICO stock. ULLICO insiders received from company funds a net profit of
$10.6 million in stock transactions, which deprived other shareholders of
those gains. ULLICO's annually-fixed stock price combined with the
extraordinary growth of its investment in Global Crossing to create a
situation where merely observing Global Crossing's market price in December
provided a reliable indication of what ULLICO's price would be the following
May. Thus, ULLICO insiders were able to virtually guarantee profits from
transactions in ULLICO stock by manipulating the timing of their own
opportunities to buy and sell. When Global Crossing stock began to fall in
2000 and 2001, directors were allowed to sell their ULLICO stock back to the
company before its value was readjusted.



Most of the officers and directors held fewer than 10,000 shares, and each
year, ULLICO adopted a rule ensuring that those with fewer than 10,000
shares could sell all of their stock back to the company while other
shareholders, such as labor unions and pension plans, could sell only a
small portion of their shares back to the company.



The lack of oversight by the board of directors, including AFL-CIO pres.
John Sweeney and vice-pres. Richard Trumka, enabled Georgine to spend
company funds irresponsibly or for the benefit of himself and his relatives.
Examples include $380,000 in unsecured loans for his nephew, Patrick Mertz,
relatives on the payroll, and a $3.7 million lease for a corporate jet.



As he departed from ULLICO, Georgine attempted to give money to six sitting
directors. Committee staff attempted to interview all six board members
about this incident. However, four of them invoked their 5th Amendment right
against self-incrimination rather than answer questions from the Committee
staff about the attempted gift or any other ULLICO-related subject. Each
director who took the Fifth Amendment also refused ULLICO's request to
return his profits.



ULLICO spent nearly $14 million on legal, consulting, and lobbying fees to
deal with the multiple investigations spawned by the stock transactions.
"It shouldn't have taken the spotlight of a Senate hearing or grand jury
investigation for ULLICO to clean up its act," said Senator Collins.
According to the report, that grand jury is likely investigating a possible
mail fraud violation, involving a scheme to financially defraud a person or
organization through the mail.



"It is difficult to believe that it was only by accident that Robert
Georgine and other senior ULLICO officers created the conditions by which
they made millions of dollars at the expense of ULLICO's shareholders," acc.
to the report. "Rather, the facts in the ULLICO case suggest a series of
intentional acts by Georgine and other senior ULLICO officers calculated to
enrich them and other company insiders... [while] conceal[ing] from other
shareholders the extent to which they were loading up on ULLICO stock."
[U.S. Sen. Cmte. Governmental Affairs, 6/2/04]





I was never in any of those "illustrious" categories, and therefore never
owned a single share of its stock.



Maybe not. But you, Georgine, Terry McAuliffe, and others all illegally
profited from insider trading and stock manipulation of Global
Crossing...the stock which you have admitted to buying and selling at a huge
personal profit during the same time period Ullico was cheating its members.

NOYB,
Harry is in the "loop". ;)


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
Shouldn't you be on your way to Chicago for the AFL-CIO Convention
tomorrow?

Or are you part of the 4 million members who will be leaving them?

If I go, it'll just be for a day, and just to say "hello." I've done a
lot of work over the years for the federation and some of its
affiliates, but never get involved in their internal politics.

But if you don't go, how will you pitch the idea of a "soldier's union"
to them?



It was a joke; I had hoped you would "get" it.

I "got" it. I was just using the example to probe as to why you weren't
in Chicago.


Besides, if there were such a move, it would be most appealing to the
Service Employees, and that group seems intent on marching out of the
federation for reasons I wouldn't discuss here.


I thought you said that you "never get involved in their internal
politics". So how do you know the reason why groups with 4 million
members are leaving the AFL-CIO?

Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you made
with Ullico stock.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
It sounds like all you are looking for is a well spoken shyster who can
sweet talk and scam people out of their money and then write up a good
report of the transaction......sort of like your old job where you stole
money from union members....can you say Ullico?

Maybe you should recruit Chuck. He used to sell used cars and would be
perfect for your company.


Attempt to start snot fight noted. Again.

What's that whine-line you trot out when people take your bait,
something about obsession? I wish you'd revive that old chestnut you
used to rely on, "It must suck to be you!" A little variety would be
appreciated.

Cast elsewhere, a tiny nibble but no bite here.



Indeed. Incidentally, there were never any accusations ULLICO stole money
from union members. Au contraire; part of ULLICO's problem in its
insurance business was that it was using investment income to subsidize
health insurance premiums it charged member unions and their members.

No policyholder has lost a nickel because of ULLICO, nor failed to have
legitimate claims paid, and no one with any brains has made such a charge.
ULLICO's problem was that certain senior officers and board members took
advantage of corporate rules that allowed them to buy and sell privately
held shares on terms more advantageous than those offered the small list
of remaining shareholders. Ownership of ULLICO shares is limited to unions
and their financial agents, members of the board, and senior officers of
the company. I was never in any of those "illustrious" categories, and
therefore never owned a single share of its stock.

Interesting, though, that Hertvik insults the work of others and is too
embarrassed by what he does for a living to even mention it here. But
several righties here do that: knock others but won't reveal what they do.
Speaks volumes about them.

Harry,

I know that, but you didn't when you made that claim. Just as you did not
know I had access to the Yale Alumni web site when you made the claim you
graduated from Yale.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Real Name wrote:
Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you made
with Ullico stock.


Yet another one of your lies, dipstick. I was never eligible to buy ULLICO
stock.

Harry,
I am curious why you didn't chose Rutgers if you could not get into a good
school? Rutgers is head and shoulders over U of Kansas, and I would guess
even you could get into Rutgers.


"Real Name" wrote in message news:...
Harry,

I know that, but you didn't when you made that claim. Just as you did not
know I had access to the Yale Alumni web site when you made the claim you
graduated from Yale.


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Real Name wrote:
Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you
made with Ullico stock.


Yet another one of your lies, dipstick. I was never eligible to buy
ULLICO stock.

"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you made
with Ullico stock.


No. He bragged about making money on Global Crossing...which is the
Democrat's "Enron"...and a company that ULLICO and Terry McAuliffe profited
on from insider trading.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/184158.shtml

NOYB,
Thanks for the correction.


"NOYB" wrote in message
k.net...

"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you made
with Ullico stock.


No. He bragged about making money on Global Crossing...which is the
Democrat's "Enron"...and a company that ULLICO and Terry McAuliffe
profited on from insider trading.

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/arti...1/184158.shtml

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you
made with Ullico stock.


No. He bragged about making money on Global Crossing...which is the
Democrat's "Enron"...and a company that ULLICO and Terry McAuliffe
profited on from insider trading.



That's correct, but I didn't make any money because of "insider" trading.

So says you.

"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you
made with Ullico stock.


No. He bragged about making money on Global Crossing...which is the
Democrat's "Enron"...and a company that ULLICO and Terry McAuliffe
profited on from insider trading.



That's correct, but I didn't make any money because of "insider" trading.

So says you.

....and Martha Stewart.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:19:38 GMT, Don White wrote:

HarryKrause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:


Maybe you should recruit Chuck. He used to sell used cars and would
be perfect for your company.



It's mildly interesting that you and several other right-wing
trashmeisters here steadfastly refuse to discuss what it is you do for a
living, but never hesitate to knock what others do for a living.

This is a fairly consistent pattern among many (not all) of the
right-wingers here...knock the other other on what he does, where lives,
how he lives, et cetera, but don't post any "revealing" information
about yourself.

And, of course, you take it a step farther: you knock the boats of
others, without actually having a boat yourself.

You are some piece of work, Mr. Moped.


Imagine...a boatless 'Natural Born Liar' with a Moped and a blowup
dinghy stuffed in his attic, trashing another member because of the
modest size on his sailboat.
This guy is shameless. This newsgroup should have minimal standards for
membership.

The standards *are* minimal! Pressing buttons on a keyboard is not the
equivalent of the GRE.


--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:44:39 -0400, John H. wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 14:19:38 GMT, Don White wrote:

HarryKrause wrote:
*JimH* wrote:


Maybe you should recruit Chuck. He used to sell used cars and would
be perfect for your company.



It's mildly interesting that you and several other right-wing
trashmeisters here steadfastly refuse to discuss what it is you do for a
living, but never hesitate to knock what others do for a living.

This is a fairly consistent pattern among many (not all) of the
right-wingers here...knock the other other on what he does, where lives,
how he lives, et cetera, but don't post any "revealing" information
about yourself.

And, of course, you take it a step farther: you knock the boats of
others, without actually having a boat yourself.

You are some piece of work, Mr. Moped.


Imagine...a boatless 'Natural Born Liar' with a Moped and a blowup
dinghy stuffed in his attic, trashing another member because of the
modest size on his sailboat.
This guy is shameless. This newsgroup should have minimal standards for
membership.

The standards *are* minimal! Pressing buttons on a keyboard is not the
equivalent of the GRE.

Will someone hurry up and say, "You should know, John, you barely meet 'em!"

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Harry,
The difference between my word and yours, is I have never lied in rec.boats.
Your persona in rec.boats is nothing but a lie.

So why didn't you go to Rutgers? Were you SAT too low to get into a good
state school?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Real Name wrote:
Harry,

I know that,

Sorry, but I don't take the word of anonymous posters.

NYOB,
I would give 100 to 1 odds that Harry never owned Global Crossing Stock.


"NOYB" wrote in message
nk.net...

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
NOYB wrote:
"Real Name" wrote in message
...
Harry,
In one of your bragging moments you bragged about how much money you
made with Ullico stock.


No. He bragged about making money on Global Crossing...which is the
Democrat's "Enron"...and a company that ULLICO and Terry McAuliffe
profited on from insider trading.



That's correct, but I didn't make any money because of "insider" trading.

So says you.

Harry,
No one believes my name is "Real Name" or any other handle I have used in
here. I have not told anyone that any of the handles I have used is my real
name. It has always been very obvious to everyone, including you, when I
change handles, hence I have never lied.

You on the other hand are a compulsive liar. The question I have is why?

I am really curious why you chose U of Kansas. Certainly there are some
better 3rd state schools you could have attended.




"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Real Name wrote:
Harry,
The difference between my word and yours, is I have never lied in
rec.boats.

This from a dipstick who has posted here under 50 different handles.

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:25:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Apparently Doug equates slick public speaking with intelligence, moral
character etc.......which is why they got taken by Clintoon............if
spekaing ability were a measure of intelligence, stutters must be
stupid.,
and we all know that is not true.

"Some of these people have been trained to disassemble. That means to not
tell the truth". - George Bush

Sorry, Goff, but the boy not only screws up, but back up his mistakes with
definitions. This one was on television, by the way, not in a story from one
of the grownup news sources you like to slam.


You're not to bright, are you Doug? You were replying to a post by
Fritz, not me. A little CRS kicking in?

On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:12:08 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Jack Goff wrote:
?

I have hired a guy that is not well spoken, but is *very* intelligent,
and is one of our top performers. We have another that is not
visually pleasing, but is very effective at his job.


You're not too "well-spoken" yourself, bubba. Check the proper usage of
"that" and "who."

I'm an engineer, not a writer. I know the usage, and would have
caught it on a careful proofread. This NG is not that important.


I have a couple of simple tests for the few people I hire from time to
time and for the writers I help clients hire.

Your "test" may work for writers, but that's about it. It's no
definitive indication of anything, and gives you but a cursory glance
at their reading, speaking, and writing abilities. Again, no real
indication of actual intelligence, reasoning ability, etc.

Maybe you can dodge reality and point out another typo or grammar rule
I violated?

Harry,
If you know of one incorrect assumption I have made let me know.

You are here for one reason, to argue politics by making personal insults to
those you disagree. You have made your education, your boats and your
wife's education and profession as a means to attack those whose political
beliefs disagree with yours.

Since I am substantially smarter than you, it is fairly easy to catch you
are your lies. You did not go to Yale, your wife is not a MD, and you don't
own a Lobster Boat. It would be very easy to prove the validity of all of
these "claims" of yours, but you don't. Let someone question if you own a
Parker, and you mail Chuck Gould a copy of the bill of sale, want to make
$1000 bets and go on and on. When people offer to make the same bet about
your Lobster Boat you back down. You said your wife is a MD, but Maryland
has never heard of a doctor with the name Karen Grear, but a Karen Grear
works at the same place you do as a in house social worker.

What incorrect assumptions have I made?






"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
No one believes my name is "Real Name" or any other handle I have used in
here.

You ALWAYS are here under false pretenses, sailing under a false name,
never really revealing anything about yourself, but always quick to make
judgments (and usually incorrect ones) about others. You are perfectly
matched to the rest of the right-wing stunatz in he Hertvik, Robbins,
Tuuk, et cetera. You know...the empty suit crowd.

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:25:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Apparently Doug equates slick public speaking with intelligence, moral
character etc.......which is why they got taken by
Clintoon............if
spekaing ability were a measure of intelligence, stutters must be
stupid.,
and we all know that is not true.

"Some of these people have been trained to disassemble. That means to
not
tell the truth". - George Bush

Sorry, Goff, but the boy not only screws up, but back up his mistakes
with
definitions. This one was on television, by the way, not in a story from
one
of the grownup news sources you like to slam.


You're not to bright, are you Doug? You were replying to a post by
Fritz, not me. A little CRS kicking in?

And it still has nothing to do with his intelligence........doug has yet
to show any proof of a link between public speaking ability and
intelligence...

Maybe doug can learn something about his failed tactics

Bush Bashing Fizzles
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Com..._25_05_MB.html

Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?


"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
If you know of one incorrect assumption I have made let me know.

Since you read every word I post here, you are well aware of the
corrections to the b.s. you post here. There's no reason for me to repost
these corrections.

Further, you sail here under false colors. Therefore, *everything you
post* may be assumed to be false.

Finally, I haven't the slightest interest in playing your silly game.

At best, You are a miserably insufferable heathen and a debauched,
dandruff-eating presumptuous pejorative prattler.

P. Fritz wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:25:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Apparently Doug equates slick public speaking with intelligence, moral
character etc.......which is why they got taken by
Clintoon............if
spekaing ability were a measure of intelligence, stutters must be
stupid.,
and we all know that is not true.

"Some of these people have been trained to disassemble. That means to
not
tell the truth". - George Bush

Sorry, Goff, but the boy not only screws up, but back up his mistakes
with
definitions. This one was on television, by the way, not in a story from
one
of the grownup news sources you like to slam.


You're not to bright, are you Doug? You were replying to a post by
Fritz, not me. A little CRS kicking in?

And it still has nothing to do with his intelligence........doug has yet
to show any proof of a link between public speaking ability and
intelligence...

Maybe doug can learn something about his failed tactics

Bush Bashing Fizzles
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Com..._25_05_MB.html



How hilarious! There's an "on-line poll" at the website you linked. I
thought it would be interersting to participate. Apparently there is a
built in "liberal alarm" depending on the nature of the answers on the
first couple of pages. To avoid getting any opinions that might skew
the desired outcome, the poll just simply shuts down about halfway
through with a blank page and a note that the remainder of the survey
is "unavailable". Is this truly a technical glitch, or are you guys so
used to screwing with the truth you can't even run a legit suvey? :-)

On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 18:03:44 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Jack Goff wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jul 2005 22:12:08 -0400, HarryKrause
wrote:

Jack Goff wrote:
?
I have hired a guy that is not well spoken, but is *very* intelligent,
and is one of our top performers. We have another that is not
visually pleasing, but is very effective at his job.

You're not too "well-spoken" yourself, bubba. Check the proper usage of
"that" and "who."

I'm an engineer, not a writer. I know the usage, and would have
caught it on a careful proofread. This NG is not that important.

I have a couple of simple tests for the few people I hire from time to
time and for the writers I help clients hire.

Your "test" may work for writers, but that's about it. It's no
definitive indication of anything, and gives you but a cursory glance
at their reading, speaking, and writing abilities. Again, no real
indication of actual intelligence, reasoning ability, etc.

Maybe you can dodge reality and point out another typo or grammar rule
I violated?


I only pointed it out because you made an issue about being "well-spoken."

Negative. I pointed out that one does not need to be well spoken in
order to be intelligent, or proficient at a job. You guys are the
ones that seem to be fixated on being well spoken, or not.

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:25:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Apparently Doug equates slick public speaking with intelligence, moral
character etc.......which is why they got taken by
Clintoon............if
spekaing ability were a measure of intelligence, stutters must be
stupid.,
and we all know that is not true.

"Some of these people have been trained to disassemble. That means to not
tell the truth". - George Bush

Sorry, Goff, but the boy not only screws up, but back up his mistakes with
definitions. This one was on television, by the way, not in a story from
one
of the grownup news sources you like to slam.


You're not to bright, are you Doug? You were replying to a post by
Fritz, not me. A little CRS kicking in?

Is there really much difference between you and him? :-)

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:25:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Apparently Doug equates slick public speaking with intelligence,
moral
character etc.......which is why they got taken by
Clintoon............if
spekaing ability were a measure of intelligence, stutters must be
stupid.,
and we all know that is not true.

"Some of these people have been trained to disassemble. That means to
not
tell the truth". - George Bush

Sorry, Goff, but the boy not only screws up, but back up his mistakes
with
definitions. This one was on television, by the way, not in a story
from one
of the grownup news sources you like to slam.


You're not to bright, are you Doug? You were replying to a post by
Fritz, not me. A little CRS kicking in?

And it still has nothing to do with his intelligence........doug has yet
to show any proof of a link between public speaking ability and
intelligence...

Who needs to show proof? He doesn't have the core values that impress me in
a person. Apparently, for you, none are necessary.

On 25 Jul 2005 17:53:31 -0700, " wrote:



P. Fritz wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:25:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Apparently Doug equates slick public speaking with intelligence, moral
character etc.......which is why they got taken by
Clintoon............if
spekaing ability were a measure of intelligence, stutters must be
stupid.,
and we all know that is not true.

"Some of these people have been trained to disassemble. That means to
not
tell the truth". - George Bush

Sorry, Goff, but the boy not only screws up, but back up his mistakes
with
definitions. This one was on television, by the way, not in a story from
one
of the grownup news sources you like to slam.


You're not to bright, are you Doug? You were replying to a post by
Fritz, not me. A little CRS kicking in?

And it still has nothing to do with his intelligence........doug has yet
to show any proof of a link between public speaking ability and
intelligence...

Maybe doug can learn something about his failed tactics

Bush Bashing Fizzles
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Com..._25_05_MB.html



How hilarious! There's an "on-line poll" at the website you linked. I
thought it would be interersting to participate. Apparently there is a
built in "liberal alarm" depending on the nature of the answers on the
first couple of pages. To avoid getting any opinions that might skew
the desired outcome, the poll just simply shuts down about halfway
through with a blank page and a note that the remainder of the survey
is "unavailable". Is this truly a technical glitch, or are you guys so
used to screwing with the truth you can't even run a legit suvey? :-)

Maybe you had a glitch. I answered liberally and had no problem.

--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

"John H." wrote in message
...
On 25 Jul 2005 17:53:31 -0700, "
wrote:



P. Fritz wrote:
"Jack Goff" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 25 Jul 2005 13:25:13 GMT, "Doug Kanter"
wrote:

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...


Apparently Doug equates slick public speaking with intelligence,
moral
character etc.......which is why they got taken by
Clintoon............if
spekaing ability were a measure of intelligence, stutters must
be
stupid.,
and we all know that is not true.

"Some of these people have been trained to disassemble. That means
to
not
tell the truth". - George Bush

Sorry, Goff, but the boy not only screws up, but back up his
mistakes
with
definitions. This one was on television, by the way, not in a story
from
one
of the grownup news sources you like to slam.


You're not to bright, are you Doug? You were replying to a post by
Fritz, not me. A little CRS kicking in?

And it still has nothing to do with his intelligence........doug has
yet
to show any proof of a link between public speaking ability and
intelligence...

Maybe doug can learn something about his failed tactics

Bush Bashing Fizzles
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/Com..._25_05_MB.html



How hilarious! There's an "on-line poll" at the website you linked. I
thought it would be interersting to participate. Apparently there is a
built in "liberal alarm" depending on the nature of the answers on the
first couple of pages. To avoid getting any opinions that might skew
the desired outcome, the poll just simply shuts down about halfway
through with a blank page and a note that the remainder of the survey
is "unavailable". Is this truly a technical glitch, or are you guys so
used to screwing with the truth you can't even run a legit suvey? :-)

Maybe you had a glitch. I answered liberally and had no problem.

Poor chuckie see conspiracy in anything outside of his liebral viewpoint.



--
John H.
On the 'PocoLoco' out of Deale, MD

Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
wrote:

Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?


Bingo.

Harry lost his individual.net accout due to abuse of this newsgroup. What an
idiot. hahahahahahaha

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
HarryKrause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?
Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like
bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

Bingo.

Harry lost his individual.net accout due to abuse of this newsgroup.
What an idiot. hahahahahahaha



Does anyone really believe this idiot is Doug Kanter?


Kinda writes and behaves like...Netsock.

Don't be sore about losing your account krause, afterall you WERE WARNED
FIRST!

aaeeeaaaahahahahahahahaha

HarryKrause wrote:

usual Smither clone wrote..
Harry lost his individual.net accout due to abuse of this newsgroup.
What an idiot. hahahahahahaha



Does anyone really believe this idiot is Doug Kanter?

I think the only ones fooled are the Smithers brothers and their
hanger-ons. What a motley crew.

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
Doug Kanter wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
HarryKrause wrote:
Doug Kanter wrote:
"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
wrote:
Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?
Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like
bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

Bingo.

Harry lost his individual.net accout due to abuse of this newsgroup.
What an idiot. hahahahahahaha


Does anyone really believe this idiot is Doug Kanter?

Kinda writes and behaves like...Netsock.

Don't be sore about losing your account krause, afterall you WERE WARNED
FIRST!


I have no idea what you are drooling about now, dip.

Really? Why did you stop posting from individual.net? Did they terminate
your account for abuse krause???

hee hee hee

Kevin,
Why have you changed your nickname so often?


wrote in message
ups.com...


Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Kevin,
Why have you changed your nickname so often?

Remember the liebral rules......they are allowed to whine about others doing
the very thing they are guilty of.



wrote in message
ups.com...


Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

"HarryKrause" wrote in message
...
*JimH* wrote:


Maybe you should recruit Chuck. He used to sell used cars and would be
perfect for your company.


It's mildly interesting that you and several other right-wing
trashmeisters here steadfastly refuse to discuss what it is you do for a
living, but never hesitate to knock what others do for a living.

This is a fairly consistent pattern among many (not all) of the
right-wingers here...knock the other other on what he does, where lives,
how he lives, et cetera, but don't post any "revealing" information about
yourself.

And, of course, you take it a step farther: you knock the boats of
others, without actually having a boat yourself.

You are some piece of work, Mr. Moped.



Why should I tell you anything about my life? You already stalked me and my
wife, posted our names and address here, went to the bother of finding a
picture of our house then went on the make personal threats to both my wife
and me.

Yes, we are "boat-less" at the present time...and this after some 25 years
of boat ownership. sigh But you know the reason why we sold our 32
footer recently as I have posted it several time here. For that reason I
will not repeat the reason why.



Our kids grew up on our boats and on the lake (Lake Erie) since they were 6
month old babes. Both love the water and took to it instantly. Being able
to enjoy weekends, holidays and vacation together on the boat as a family
was absolutely priceless and provided them with memories they will never
forget.



We will buy a smaller boat when we buy our retirement house on the water in
a few years (or sooner). But that is not important at the moment.



Boat-less...indeed. But despite all this we remain *boaters*. Yes, one can
remain a boater without owning a boat. I would guess we spend more time on
the water and boating than you do. And you would never have seen a post
from me here during weekends, holiday or vacations when we owned a boat as
we were on it.



Despite all this the big questions to you Krause is: Why are you so
obsessed with the fact that I am boat-less for the moment and why does that
bother you so? Does boat ownership somehow make one more credible or more
important? You apparently think so...why am I not surprised?



Understand this Krause: I am comfortable with the fact that we do not own a

boat for the moment. My wife is comfortable with that fact. My kids are

comfortable with that fact. Despite that we are all happy and love each

other.



How can that be? I would rather be boat-less and happy than be the grumpy

old man you are. Unlike you I do not have to make up stories about owning a

phantom custom made 36 foot lobster boat. Unlike you I do not have to make

up stories about phantom fishing trips and being on the water. Unlike you I

do not post pictures of what I say is my wife that I lifted from the

internet. Unlike you I don't have to make up stories about my wife's

education. Unlike you I don't have to post pictures of my driveway and

brag about how long it is.



Yes, I don't have to make up stories about my life.....all things you do

right here....all things you have been caught in a lie doing so.



I am happy with my life, you obviously are not. You continue with the lies

about your fantasy life because you need some sort of validation from the

folks here...members of an obscure boating NG of all things.....a validation

that you need to show that are more than the grumpy old man eating cheese

doodles at his computer 24x7.



It must really suck to be you and to have to wake up each and every morning

to look in the mirror knowing you have to live another day as Harry Krause.



OUCH!!!

I change my name for one reason, it ****es Harry off. Harry is a low life
who has run rampant in this NG for too long. Bitch slapping Harry is the
only way to keep him in control.

Basskevin on the other hand is too brain dead to know when he has been
bitchslapped. ; )

"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Kevin,
Why have you changed your nickname so often?

Remember the liebral rules......they are allowed to whine about others
doing
the very thing they are guilty of.



wrote in message
ups.com...


Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
I change my name for one reason, it ****es Harry off. Harry is a low life
who has run rampant in this NG for too long. Bitch slapping Harry is the
only way to keep him in control.

Harry's been in a downward spiral has his little fantasy world collaspes
like the democratic party house of cards.


Basskevin on the other hand is too brain dead to know when he has been
bitchslapped. ; )

Isn't that the truth


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Kevin,
Why have you changed your nickname so often?

Remember the liebral rules......they are allowed to whine about others
doing
the very thing they are guilty of.



wrote in message
ups.com...


Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like
bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

Harry has gone out of his way to create a little fantasy world with him and
his young bride (the 20 yrs younger doctor with a PHD) living in his
palatial palace, boating on his custom built yacht. Remembering the good
times on the Yale Quad.

Everyone of his stories has been proven wrong. Harry knows it and is now
trying to be a nice guy instead of his normal ass.

No one really knows what is wrong with Harry, but he is one messed up dude.


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
I change my name for one reason, it ****es Harry off. Harry is a low
life
who has run rampant in this NG for too long. Bitch slapping Harry is the
only way to keep him in control.

Harry's been in a downward spiral has his little fantasy world collaspes
like the democratic party house of cards.


Basskevin on the other hand is too brain dead to know when he has been
bitchslapped. ; )

Isn't that the truth


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Kevin,
Why have you changed your nickname so often?

Remember the liebral rules......they are allowed to whine about others
doing
the very thing they are guilty of.



wrote in message
ups.com...


Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like
bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Harry has gone out of his way to create a little fantasy world with him
and
his young bride (the 20 yrs younger doctor with a PHD) living in his
palatial palace, boating on his custom built yacht. Remembering the good
times on the Yale Quad.

Everyone of his stories has been proven wrong. Harry knows it and is now
trying to be a nice guy instead of his normal ass.

No one really knows what is wrong with Harry, but he is one messed up
dude.

Well one thing that is wrong is that he has kevin and don both competind to
stick their noses up his ass. :-)

Second thing is that all the things harry has stood for....unions, liebrals,
the DNC, are all literally collasping around him...........much suck to wake
up everyday and realize that all your life's dedications have been to losing
causes.




"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
I change my name for one reason, it ****es Harry off. Harry is a low
life
who has run rampant in this NG for too long. Bitch slapping Harry is
the
only way to keep him in control.

Harry's been in a downward spiral has his little fantasy world collaspes
like the democratic party house of cards.


Basskevin on the other hand is too brain dead to know when he has been
bitchslapped. ; )

Isn't that the truth


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"Mr. R. Name" wrote in message
...
Kevin,
Why have you changed your nickname so often?

Remember the liebral rules......they are allowed to whine about
others
doing
the very thing they are guilty of.



wrote in message
ups.com...


Mr. R. Name wrote:
Harry,
Are you ashamed of yourself for
making up these stories?

Smithers, are you ashamed of yourself for being so gnat-like
bothersome
that you need to change your usenet handle every five minutes so
everyone won't have you killfiled?

Will you pussies stop already? You're like a bunch of 12 year old girls,
ready to start a hair pulling contest in the hallway at school. Jeez........

Mr. R. Name wrote:
I change my name for one reason, it ****es Harry off. Harry is a low life
who has run rampant in this NG for too long. Bitch slapping Harry is the
only way to keep him in control.

Basskevin on the other hand is too brain dead to know when he has been
bitchslapped. ; )

If you are talking to me, get one thing straight, you little ****ing
weasel. YOU aren't and will never, ever be man enough to "bitch slap"
me. Understand? I will allow you to try, okay, punk?