Help!
My 1988 searay 345 is leaking on the back starboard corner into the
cabin. Any idea what to look for?
I think that the bridge is out on in a crooked way. Is it easy to mend
to?

"Dubon" wrote in message
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Help!
My 1988 searay 345 is leaking on the back starboard corner into the
cabin. Any idea what to look for?
I think that the bridge is out on in a crooked way. Is it easy to mend
to?


I would guess the flybridge is attached mechanically and the cabin you are
referring to is just below it If so, it may involve the removal and
replacement of the head liner in the cabin.

Is this a reasonable close picture of your boat?

http://www.yachtshare.com/images/boats/1753_1

First try recaulking around the base of the flybridge, both inside and out.

If that does not correct the problem loosen the bolts securing the flybridge
seats and recaulk the holes that the bolts pass through.

If the leak continues you may have to loosen the bolts holding down the
flybridge, raise it slightly, caulk around the perimeter and at the bolts,
lower it, realign it, then tighten down the bolts.

I may be wrong but that would be my guess.

Any other ideas?

Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?

"Dubon" wrote in message
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Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?


No. The picture is not of my boat but one off the net.

My old dock neighbor had a similar problem with a Trojan flybridge and those
were some of the steps he took to correct it.

Dubon wrote:
Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?


ROFLMAO


Based on his recent comments about Sea Ray owners, JimH somehow managed
to refrain from warning you not to get your gold chains stuck in the
repair job. Kudos to JimH for his self control.

Nobody can diagnose your problem or suggest the proper solution via
crystal balls. Some of what Jim suggests might work, depending on the
cause, but you would want to be very careful about tring to loosen your
flybrige to raise it and stuff some marine sealant into the joint.
Those FB's are normally chemically bonded (glued) and/or glassed in
place as well as mechanically fastened. It's typically easier to remove
the cowling and seats as this is often required for truck transport-
but prying or jacking up the cabintop/flybridge deck is not something
to attempt based on an internet guess.
Correcting a structural failure of that magnitude would be appropriate
only for a highly experienced worker, and if that is indeed the
required remedy it will cost less to have a boatyard do it for you and
do it right than to ultimately hire a boatyard to rebuild a botched up
do-it-yourself job.

Anything fastened to the FB somewhere near the leak? Rail? Table
socket? Any sort of fitting at all? (It wouldn't absolutely have to be
directly above the leak, as your FB deck is likely crowned and small
amounts could wick outboard along the underside).

Check out and rule out all of the simple stuff first, but before you
start removing decks, etc, you will want to consult with a local,
on-scene, qualified expert.

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Dubon wrote:
Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?


ROFLMAO


Based on his recent comments about Sea Ray owners, JimH somehow managed
to refrain from warning you not to get your gold chains stuck in the
repair job. Kudos to JimH for his self control.


Yet another personal attack for no reason Chuck. You are showing your true
colors to this NG, as you did in the "OT What JimH does for a living"
thread, among others.

Yes, the real Chuck Gould is coming out for all to see.

What a shame Chuck.

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Dubon wrote:
Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?


ROFLMAO


Based on his recent comments about Sea Ray owners, JimH somehow managed
to refrain from warning you not to get your gold chains stuck in the
repair job. Kudos to JimH for his self control.


Yet another personal attack for no reason Chuck. You are showing your
true
colors to this NG, as you did in the "OT What JimH does for a living"
thread, among others.

Yes, the real Chuck Gould is coming out for all to see.

What a shame Chuck.

It appears chuck and kevin are following harry's lead

*JimH* wrote:
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Dubon wrote:
Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?


ROFLMAO


Based on his recent comments about Sea Ray owners, JimH somehow managed
to refrain from warning you not to get your gold chains stuck in the
repair job. Kudos to JimH for his self control.


Yet another personal attack for no reason Chuck. You are showing your true
colors to this NG, as you did in the "OT What JimH does for a living"
thread, among others.

Yes, the real Chuck Gould is coming out for all to see.

What a shame Chuck.

First, it's not a personal attack. You are on recent record as
dismissing Sea Ray owners as a bunch of posers with too many gold
chains and inadequate male anatomy. Given that, it is actually very
funny when somebody asks whether *you* had a similar problem (assuming
of course that you owned the same model). If you hadn't posted, several
times, (in last month's thread about the Sea Ray runabouts) that people
who own Sea Rays are this, that, and some other thing it wouldn't be
the least bit funny for somebody to ask whether had a similar problem
with a Sea Ray. As it is, it's a lot like somebody asking Harry Krause
whether he voted for Bush. Your own statement bit you on the arse, and
your choices are to lash out at others who enjoy the wry humor, or
laugh at yourself along with others and appreciate the irony.

Among my true colors is Missouri Elephant gray. I have a very good
memory, and I think actions speak louder than words. You expressed your
opinion of Sea Ray owners when it suited your previous purpose, but
then tripped all over yourself delivering a slough of Sea Ray advice
that covered the spectrum from squirting a bit of silicone to
rebuilding the cabintop. Nobody can provide this poster a good solution
without physically inspecting the boat, however--

Maybe somebody should suggest that the OP try to isolate the leak with
a garden hose. Turned on to flow perhaps a half gallon a minute or so-
enough to get everything wet but in a controlled fashion. Start with
the hose immediately over the point of the leak and spend a few minutes
watching the area from inside the cabin. If no leaking, move the hose
forward several inches, (but not inboard, yet), and repeat. Continue
the process until the hose is a few feet from the leak, and then if
there is some space aft start moving the hose aft in increments. Once
the areas immediately above, as well as fore and aft of the leak have
been ruled out, it's time to repeat the process by moving a few inches
inboard, up the crown toward centerline. Let a lot of water run around
any sort of fittings. The idea is to replicate the amount of water that
might be associated with a heavy rainstorm.

If there is still no leaking, put a nozzle on the hose and try washing
along the flybridge deck joint. If it leaks during this exercise but
didn't leak with the slow-running hose, that's a good clue that it
might be a deck joint issue and, if so, very likely beyond most do-it
yourself repair.

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Dubon wrote:
Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?


ROFLMAO


Based on his recent comments about Sea Ray owners, JimH somehow managed
to refrain from warning you not to get your gold chains stuck in the
repair job. Kudos to JimH for his self control.


Yet another personal attack for no reason Chuck. You are showing your
true
colors to this NG, as you did in the "OT What JimH does for a living"
thread, among others.

Yes, the real Chuck Gould is coming out for all to see.

What a shame Chuck.

First, it's not a personal attack.

Bullcrap

You are on recent record as
dismissing Sea Ray owners as a bunch of posers with too many gold
chains and inadequate male anatomy.

The old "Who, me?" routine comes out.....as expected.

As expected, you are alsoonce again exaggerating what I said. Google up my
statement and see how it was about the new generation SeaRay boats....you
know, the ones *you* said people buy only because it is all about "going
fast and looking good".

What a hyprocrite you are Chuck.

Too bad you ruined a perfectly good thread with your personal attack on me.
I offered sound advice to Dubon....then you stepped in.

BTW: I was a SeaRay owner....a 1987 270 Sundancer....I even posted a
picture of it here in this NG.

Now go and ruin another thread Chuck. Your act is getting old.

*JimH* wrote:
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*JimH* wrote:
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Dubon wrote:
Thanks jimH.
This is the boat! Did you have a similar problem?


ROFLMAO


Based on his recent comments about Sea Ray owners, JimH somehow managed
to refrain from warning you not to get your gold chains stuck in the
repair job. Kudos to JimH for his self control.


Yet another personal attack for no reason Chuck. You are showing your
true
colors to this NG, as you did in the "OT What JimH does for a living"
thread, among others.

Yes, the real Chuck Gould is coming out for all to see.

What a shame Chuck.

First, it's not a personal attack.

Bullcrap

You are on recent record as
dismissing Sea Ray owners as a bunch of posers with too many gold
chains and inadequate male anatomy.

The old "Who, me?" routine comes out.....as expected.

As expected, you are alsoonce again exaggerating what I said. Google up my
statement and see how it was about the new generation SeaRay boats....you
know, the ones *you* said people buy only because it is all about "going
fast and looking good".

What a hyprocrite you are Chuck.


Much as it pains me to do so, sort of, I must once again prove you a
liar.
I keep looking for a more humane word, but each time I use a phrase
like "selective memory", or what not, you protest very loudly. If you'd
like to suggest a good word aside from "liar" to describe your repeated
activity of doing something and then denying that you did- (or claiming
to have done something that you did not)I would certainly consider
using it. "Liar" has such a brutal tone, don't you think?

Here is *exactly* what you posted:

(begin quote)
Wow, a member of the "I own a SeaRay...look at me" club.

Gold chain holders......gold trim....fast boats...poor quality. All
owned
by fat old farts with gold chains and with severe shrinkage...."look at

me"....I own a go fast SeaRay.

(end quote)

Guess I'm having a very hard time seeing how your comments only apply
to certain Sea Rays. I think the phrase "all owned by" is pretty
inclusive, don't you? Your take on Sea Ray is that they are poor
quality boats, all owned by
fat old farts with gold chains and with severe shrinkage.

You're right about one thing JimH. My characterization of your comment,
(paraphrasing your description of Sea Ray owners as people with "too
many gold chains and diminished male anatomy") turns out to be less
than entirely accurate. Thanks to your suggestion that I google up your
post, it is obvious that your statement was even more viscious and
condescending than I suggested it might have been. I specifically left
out "fat, old farts" so I APOLOGIZE for failing to give you adequate
credit for the actual depth of your slam against tens of thousands of
boaters you have never met.

Please don't offer any advice about varnishing teak and holly soles-
rather obviously anybody who followed it would wind up trapped in a
corner.

As you now claim to be an ex-Sea Ray owner, were you then, or are you
now,
a fat old fart with gold chains and severe shrinkage?

I'm really sorry to hear that you're gnashing your teeth all night.
(PING NOYB thread) Hope our friendly bantering in the NG isn't
exacerbating your condition. They say that negative emotions are self
destructive- could they mean physically? I sleep like a baby, myself.
You have stated I have no morals or conscience, and if you're right
maybe that's why I sleep so well. Nothing shames or worries an amoral
man. How dreadful to hear that guilt and shame may be taking a toll on
you, I can only imagine that living with guilt and shame must be a
wretched existence. You might consider a brief, open-minded study of
karma, or maybe even the kabalah. There are some interesting insights
available about cause and effect- something that is an underlying
principle behind what you guys with morals and consciences often call
"The Golden Rule". May do a lot more to cure your teeth gnashing than a
chunk of plastic. :-)

(Either that or become as immoral as you claim I am, that would work
just as well).

Again, Kudos to you for your self control in this thread. Despite your
recently published opinion of Sea Ray owners, you did make an attempt
to be helpful and as you can see, I commended you for doing so. Speaks
well of you. Really.