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[email protected] July 11th 05 06:17 PM

OT Money Magazine Best Places to Live
 
Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html


HarryKrause July 11th 05 06:23 PM

aka Kevin Noble wrote:
Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html

Either is Snellville Ga, eh Kevin?
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Shortwave Sportfishing July 11th 05 06:42 PM

On 11 Jul 2005 10:17:36 -0700, wrote:

Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html

Barrington, RI #3?

BBAAWWWAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!

~~ cough - sputter - gag ~~

Oh man, that was funny. Even funnier was Colchester and Tolland CT.

Well, what do you expect for CNN - they still have their heads up
their collective asses.

NOYB July 11th 05 08:35 PM


"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 11 Jul 2005 10:17:36 -0700, wrote:

Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html

Barrington, RI #3?

BBAAWWWAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!

~~ cough - sputter - gag ~~

Oh man, that was funny. Even funnier was Colchester and Tolland CT.

Well, what do you expect for CNN - they still have their heads up
their collective asses.



I guess I don't need to respond. Shortwave and Harry summed it up pretty
well with their posts.




[email protected] July 11th 05 08:40 PM



NOYB wrote:
"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 11 Jul 2005 10:17:36 -0700, wrote:

Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html

Barrington, RI #3?

BBAAWWWAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!

~~ cough - sputter - gag ~~

Oh man, that was funny. Even funnier was Colchester and Tolland CT.

Well, what do you expect for CNN - they still have their heads up
their collective asses.



I guess I don't need to respond. Shortwave and Harry summed it up pretty
well with their posts.


True, after all, it IS money magazine, and they are looking at very
different factors than either boating or fishing.


[email protected] July 11th 05 08:43 PM



HarryKrause wrote:
wrote:
Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html



Morristown, NJ?

Vienna, Virginia? Blech. Had possibilities, but far too overcrowded
these days.

Peachtree City, GA? Near Atlanta? Double blech. Sorry.


Ever been to P'tree City? Really nice place.

Mill Valley, CA? Hehehe. Of all the places in California I find
appealing, Mill Valley ain't one of them.


NOWHERE in the Bay Area is livable. Again, this list wasn't compiled to
cater to a certain demographic such as boaters or fishers.



P. Fritz July 11th 05 09:00 PM


"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 11 Jul 2005 10:17:36 -0700, wrote:

Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html

Barrington, RI #3?

BBAAWWWAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!

~~ cough - sputter - gag ~~

Oh man, that was funny. Even funnier was Colchester and Tolland CT.

Well, what do you expect for CNN - they still have their heads up
their collective asses.



I guess I don't need to respond. Shortwave and Harry summed it up pretty
well with their posts.


Their criterea.
************************************************** *******************

OnBoard maintains a database of nearly 40,000 cities. To narrow our search,
we began by considering only those with population above 14,000,
above-median household income, population growth and real estate
appreciation over the past 5 years.

Those restrictions led to a list of 1,321 places.



From there, we eliminated places that aren't within 60 miles of a major
airport and 30 miles of a major teaching hospital.

We also eliminate towns with low education scores or that fall below the
25th percentile in any two of the following: unemployment, income growth,
crime, or arts resources.

That left 100 towns, which we ranked, weighing economic, education and
safety factors twice as much as arts, leisure and park space.

We limited any metropolitan area to one or two places.

To pick the winners, we culled more data on education, environment, housing
affordability, taxes, commute times and job market. MONEY writers also
interviewed residents and community leaders."

************************************************** ********************

60 mile to a "major" airport, 30 miles to a "major teaching hospital"
Sounds pretty arbitrary to me. Mileage is not nearly as critical as drive
time.


Kevin is still batting 000







NOYB July 11th 05 09:46 PM


"P. Fritz" wrote in message
...

"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net...

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On 11 Jul 2005 10:17:36 -0700, wrote:

Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html

Barrington, RI #3?

BBAAWWWAAAHHHHHHAAAAA!!!!!!!

~~ cough - sputter - gag ~~

Oh man, that was funny. Even funnier was Colchester and Tolland CT.

Well, what do you expect for CNN - they still have their heads up
their collective asses.



I guess I don't need to respond. Shortwave and Harry summed it up pretty
well with their posts.


Their criterea.
************************************************** *******************

OnBoard maintains a database of nearly 40,000 cities. To narrow our
search,
we began by considering only those with population above 14,000,
above-median household income, population growth and real estate
appreciation over the past 5 years.


The statistics that they use lists Naples' population at over 250,000.
Naples ain't anywhere near that size. What they keep doing is using all of
Collier County statistics...which means Immokalee (mostly migrant
farm-workers), Chokoloskee, Everglades City, Goodland, etc. are in there.

That's going to bump the crime statistics, number of students per teacher,
number of illiterate, etc.

It will lower the median household income, real estate appreciation, and
several other positive attributes.


Those restrictions led to a list of 1,321 places.



From there, we eliminated places that aren't within 60 miles of a major
airport and 30 miles of a major teaching hospital.


There goes Naples. We have the airport...but Miami has the nearest major
teaching hospital.


We also eliminate towns with low education scores or that fall below the
25th percentile in any two of the following: unemployment, income growth,
crime, or arts resources.

That left 100 towns, which we ranked, weighing economic, education and
safety factors twice as much as arts, leisure and park space.

We limited any metropolitan area to one or two places.

To pick the winners, we culled more data on education, environment,


Naples scored well there.

housing
affordability


Another knock on Naples.



Of course, I came down here to boat and fish year-round. For that, I
couldn't have picked a better area.





Bill McKee July 12th 05 05:08 AM


wrote in message
oups.com...


HarryKrause wrote:
wrote:
Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html



Morristown, NJ?

Vienna, Virginia? Blech. Had possibilities, but far too overcrowded
these days.

Peachtree City, GA? Near Atlanta? Double blech. Sorry.


Ever been to P'tree City? Really nice place.

Mill Valley, CA? Hehehe. Of all the places in California I find
appealing, Mill Valley ain't one of them.


NOWHERE in the Bay Area is livable. Again, this list wasn't compiled to
cater to a certain demographic such as boaters or fishers.



I see you have never been to Mill Valley.



[email protected] July 12th 05 01:01 PM



Bill McKee wrote:
wrote in message
oups.com...


HarryKrause wrote:
wrote:
Uh, oh........Naples, FL wasn't on the list. Can't wait to hear to
excuses......!!!

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/index.html



Morristown, NJ?

Vienna, Virginia? Blech. Had possibilities, but far too overcrowded
these days.

Peachtree City, GA? Near Atlanta? Double blech. Sorry.


Ever been to P'tree City? Really nice place.

Mill Valley, CA? Hehehe. Of all the places in California I find
appealing, Mill Valley ain't one of them.


NOWHERE in the Bay Area is livable. Again, this list wasn't compiled to
cater to a certain demographic such as boaters or fishers.



I see you have never been to Mill Valley.


I sure as hell have! While going to school, I worked part time for an
architect that lived in Mill Valley, spent a lot of time there. Too
many people with there collective noses stuck in the air, trying to act
better than everyone else, all the while in horrible debt trying to
keep up with the Joneses.



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