Bert Robbins wrote:

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Bert Robbins wrote:


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NOYB wrote:


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these techniques entailed a systematic softening up of prisoners

through

isolation, privations, insults, threats and humiliation-methods that

the

Red Cross concluded were "tantamount to torture."


Isolation, insults, threats, and humiliation are "tantamount to

torture"?


LOL.





The Bush administration created a bold legal framework to justify this
system of interrogation, according to internal government memos

obtained

by NEWSWEEK. What started as a carefully thought-out, if aggressive,
policy of interrogation in a covert war-designed mainly for use by a
handful of CIA professionals-evolved into ever-more ungoverned tactics
that ended up in the hands of untrained MPs in a big, hot war.
Originally, Geneva Conventions protections were stripped only from

Qaeda

and Taliban prisoners. But later Rumsfeld himself, impressed by the
success of techniques used against Qaeda suspects at Guantanamo Bay,
seemingly set in motion a process that led to their use in Iraq, even
though that war was supposed to have been governed by the Geneva
Conventions. Ultimately, reservist MPs, like those at Abu Ghraib, were
drawn into a system in which fear and humiliation were used to break
prisoners' resistance to interrogation.


I'm glad we've gone almost 3 years since a terrorist attack on our
soil...despite the promises from bin Laden and al-Zawahiri that the

next

attack was imminent. I credit those in our government and armed

services


who took bold steps (outside the usual legal box that confines them) to
protect our country.

The war on terrorism is an unconventional war being fought by *illegal*
combatants as defined by the Geneva Convention. If the terrorists are
illegal combatants, then they're not guaranteed the protection granted

to


"legal" combatants by the Geneva Convention. Humiliation, insult,

threats,


and isolation are not "torture" anyhow.




How the **** would you know? You're a 32-year-old dentist who has had
the world handed to him on a silver platter.


Ah, I would imagine that you need to refer to the said 32-year old
individual as Dr. NYOB.

Harry you are one ****ed on old fart that is jealous of anyone's and
everyone's success in life.




Jealous? Of a dentist? Heheehehe.


Of course I am jealous of a Dentist. You work four or so days a week and you
make a lot of money? Maybe in my next life I'll work a little harder in
school.




Well, Bertie, if you want to be jealous of a dentist, you go right ahead.

"NOYB" wrote in message hlink.net...
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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these techniques entailed a systematic softening up of prisoners through
isolation, privations, insults, threats and humiliation-methods that the
Red Cross concluded were "tantamount to torture."

Isolation, insults, threats, and humiliation are "tantamount to torture"?
LOL.

Hell, in BushCo's eyes, insults and threats are tantamount to TERRORISM!!!

"NOYB" wrote in message news:9Raqc.12937
How the **** would you know? You're a 32-year-old dentist who has had
the world handed to him on a silver platter.

33.

wow, you really MUST have had the world handed to you on a silver
platter. I've never known anyone so naive, or just plain ignorant
about life in general, at 33 years old.

Bert,
Not only is Harry upset about others success, he is so embarrassed about his
life that he has to make up stories about an elusive Lobster Boat and his
wife's education.

"Bert Robbins" wrote in message
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message

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these techniques entailed a systematic softening up of prisoners
through
isolation, privations, insults, threats and humiliation-methods that
the
Red Cross concluded were "tantamount to torture."


Isolation, insults, threats, and humiliation are "tantamount to
torture"?
LOL.



The Bush administration created a bold legal framework to justify this
system of interrogation, according to internal government memos
obtained
by NEWSWEEK. What started as a carefully thought-out, if aggressive,
policy of interrogation in a covert war-designed mainly for use by a
handful of CIA professionals-evolved into ever-more ungoverned tactics
that ended up in the hands of untrained MPs in a big, hot war.
Originally, Geneva Conventions protections were stripped only from
Qaeda
and Taliban prisoners. But later Rumsfeld himself, impressed by the
success of techniques used against Qaeda suspects at Guantanamo Bay,
seemingly set in motion a process that led to their use in Iraq, even
though that war was supposed to have been governed by the Geneva
Conventions. Ultimately, reservist MPs, like those at Abu Ghraib, were
drawn into a system in which fear and humiliation were used to break
prisoners' resistance to interrogation.


I'm glad we've gone almost 3 years since a terrorist attack on our
soil...despite the promises from bin Laden and al-Zawahiri that the
next
attack was imminent. I credit those in our government and armed
services
who took bold steps (outside the usual legal box that confines them)
to
protect our country.

The war on terrorism is an unconventional war being fought by
*illegal*
combatants as defined by the Geneva Convention. If the terrorists are
illegal combatants, then they're not guaranteed the protection granted
to
"legal" combatants by the Geneva Convention. Humiliation, insult,
threats,
and isolation are not "torture" anyhow.




How the **** would you know? You're a 32-year-old dentist who has had
the world handed to him on a silver platter.

Ah, I would imagine that you need to refer to the said 32-year old
individual as Dr. NYOB.

Harry you are one ****ed on old fart that is jealous of anyone's and
everyone's success in life.

"John Smith" wrote in message news:mspqc.30192$6f5.2871279@attbi_s54...
Bert,
Not only is Harry upset about others success, he is so embarrassed about his
life that he has to make up stories about an elusive Lobster Boat and his
wife's education.

Do you have any proof that he has lied about his wife, or his Lobster
Boat, or is your life so embarrassing that you need to make up stories
about other people?