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Jim May 16th 04 02:51 PM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 
Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a nice
tasteful webpage. see

http://web.archive.org/web/199812021...elcome-nt.html

Then along came Bush and things turned political

www.whitehouse.gov.

Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of Whitehouse.gov
during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find archived
copies of my ISP home page back to day 1

http://web.archive.org/web/*/rpa.net

I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php



Jim May 16th 04 03:09 PM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 
First I'm sorry for mispelling whitehouse in the topic line.
I have learned more
see
http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/colu...s/001450.shtml

Where there is notice that someone who controls Whitehouse.gov set loose a
bot

Begin quote of comment
"
Well, go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt and go see for yourself.
It's *only* 61K, and I'll excerpt a little for you here Mr. Mortimer.

# robots.txt for http://www.whitehouse.gov/

User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin
Disallow: /search
Disallow: /query.html
Disallow: /help
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/iraq
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/text
Disallow: /360pics/iraq
Disallow: /360pics/text
Disallow: /911/911day/iraq
Disallow: /911/911day/text
Disallow: /911/heroes/iraq
Disallow: /911/heroes/text
Disallow: /911/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/text
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/text
Disallow: /911/progress/iraq
Disallow: /911/progress/text

It was done. It was *obviously* done. As a constituent, I am *not* amused!"



Kinda makes me go hummmmm



"Jim" wrote in message
...
Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a nice
tasteful webpage. see


http://web.archive.org/web/199812021...elcome-nt.html

Then along came Bush and things turned political

www.whitehouse.gov.

Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of

Whitehouse.gov
during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find

archived
copies of my ISP home page back to day 1

http://web.archive.org/web/*/rpa.net

I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php





Gould 0738 May 16th 04 04:57 PM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 
Jim,

You don't spell whorehouse with a "t".

:-)

(just kidding)

Jim May 17th 04 04:11 AM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 
This:
http://www.differentstrings.info/archives/003137.html

Yesterday, Atrios posted a story about how the folks at The White House
Website have changed their robots.txt file to prevent search engines
from cataloging pages about Iraq. While no one is quite sure, yet, why
they're doing this, one theory that has been floated is that it is to
prevent those pages from being cached by Google, thus making it harder
to prove that anything has been changed - such as earlier this year when
they edited all the pages that has referred to Bush declaring that
"combat operations" in Iraq had ended to show, instead, that Bush had
said that "major combat operations" had ended.

And the line we are supposed to believe is that John Kerry "flip/flops"

I have a link somewhere that clearly shows the whitehouse web page
before and after the quote was changed. Want me to find it?
Jim


Jim wrote:

First I'm sorry for mispelling whitehouse in the topic line.
I have learned more
see
http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/colu...s/001450.shtml

Where there is notice that someone who controls Whitehouse.gov set loose a
bot

Begin quote of comment
"
Well, go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt and go see for yourself.
It's *only* 61K, and I'll excerpt a little for you here Mr. Mortimer.

# robots.txt for http://www.whitehouse.gov/

User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin
Disallow: /search
Disallow: /query.html
Disallow: /help
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/iraq
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/text
Disallow: /360pics/iraq
Disallow: /360pics/text
Disallow: /911/911day/iraq
Disallow: /911/911day/text
Disallow: /911/heroes/iraq
Disallow: /911/heroes/text
Disallow: /911/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/text
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/text
Disallow: /911/progress/iraq
Disallow: /911/progress/text

It was done. It was *obviously* done. As a constituent, I am *not* amused!"



Kinda makes me go hummmmm



"Jim" wrote in message
...

Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a nice
tasteful webpage. see



http://web.archive.org/web/199812021...elcome-nt.html

Then along came Bush and things turned political

www.whitehouse.gov.

Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of


Whitehouse.gov

during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find


archived

copies of my ISP home page back to day 1

http://web.archive.org/web/*/rpa.net

I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php







Jim May 17th 04 04:18 AM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 
I would like very much to see a comparison between the last days of Clinton
and the current use of Whitehouse.gov. Please post any links you can find


"Jim" wrote in message
ink.net...
This:
http://www.differentstrings.info/archives/003137.html

Yesterday, Atrios posted a story about how the folks at The White House
Website have changed their robots.txt file to prevent search engines
from cataloging pages about Iraq. While no one is quite sure, yet, why
they're doing this, one theory that has been floated is that it is to
prevent those pages from being cached by Google, thus making it harder
to prove that anything has been changed - such as earlier this year when
they edited all the pages that has referred to Bush declaring that
"combat operations" in Iraq had ended to show, instead, that Bush had
said that "major combat operations" had ended.

And the line we are supposed to believe is that John Kerry "flip/flops"

I have a link somewhere that clearly shows the whitehouse web page
before and after the quote was changed. Want me to find it?
Jim


Jim wrote:

First I'm sorry for mispelling whitehouse in the topic line.
I have learned more
see
http://weblog.siliconvalley.com/colu...s/001450.shtml

Where there is notice that someone who controls Whitehouse.gov set loose

a
bot

Begin quote of comment
"
Well, go to http://www.whitehouse.gov/robots.txt and go see for

yourself.
It's *only* 61K, and I'll excerpt a little for you here Mr. Mortimer.

# robots.txt for http://www.whitehouse.gov/

User-agent: *
Disallow: /cgi-bin
Disallow: /search
Disallow: /query.html
Disallow: /help
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/iraq
Disallow: /1/2/3/4/text
Disallow: /360pics/iraq
Disallow: /360pics/text
Disallow: /911/911day/iraq
Disallow: /911/911day/text
Disallow: /911/heroes/iraq
Disallow: /911/heroes/text
Disallow: /911/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism/text
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/iraq
Disallow: /911/patriotism2/text
Disallow: /911/progress/iraq
Disallow: /911/progress/text

It was done. It was *obviously* done. As a constituent, I am *not*

amused!"



Kinda makes me go hummmmm



"Jim" wrote in message
...

Once upon a time (in the days of Clinton) the White House published a

nice
tasteful webpage. see




http://web.archive.org/web/199812021...elcome-nt.html

Then along came Bush and things turned political

www.whitehouse.gov.

Of interest also is that cached copies showing the history of


Whitehouse.gov

during the Clinton administration are hard to find, but I can find


archived

copies of my ISP home page back to day 1

http://web.archive.org/web/*/rpa.net

I used wayback machine to find these. If anyone else can find a better
history of whitehouse.gov, I would be interested.

http://www.archive.org/web/web.php









Gary Warner May 17th 04 02:11 PM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...

Very interesting thread, Jim, even if it is all you responding to yourself.

Seriously, I feel the Whitehouse & other government sites should not
disallow archiving. If something is on a governement website it is
public information paid for by tax dollars.

While I'm no fan of Bush, and haven't even followed your whitehouse.gov
link to look yet - - I will note this about the comparison between Clinton
and Bush web sites: The use, understanding, and roll of the internet have
changed a LOT between Clinton's time and Bush's. That may or may not
justtify a more political Whitehouse.GOV site, but it at least need to be
considered. The Internet, or "Information Super Highway" as it was
called ad nausium back then, REALLY got the publics attention around
1994/1996. But even from 2001 to today - the realization of the
political power and uses of the internet has changed DRASTICLY.

Comparing Clinton era use of the internet to Bush era use might
be an unfair comparison on some levels.




Jim May 17th 04 02:52 PM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 
Check the addresses GAry -- I responded to my post once to apologise for a
spelling error, and now this one, -- there are several other Jims here, I
know it can get confusing. Maybe we should all pick a number Jim1,2,3 ect.
"Gary Warner" wrote in message
...

"Jim" wrote in message
...

Very interesting thread, Jim, even if it is all you responding to

yourself.

Seriously, I feel the Whitehouse & other government sites should not
disallow archiving. If something is on a governement website it is
public information paid for by tax dollars.

While I'm no fan of Bush, and haven't even followed your whitehouse.gov
link to look yet - - I will note this about the comparison between Clinton
and Bush web sites: The use, understanding, and roll of the internet have
changed a LOT between Clinton's time and Bush's. That may or may not
justtify a more political Whitehouse.GOV site, but it at least need to be
considered. The Internet, or "Information Super Highway" as it was
called ad nausium back then, REALLY got the publics attention around
1994/1996. But even from 2001 to today - the realization of the
political power and uses of the internet has changed DRASTICLY.

Comparing Clinton era use of the internet to Bush era use might
be an unfair comparison on some levels.






Gary Warner May 17th 04 03:41 PM

Whotehouse.gov turns political
 

"Jim" wrote in message
...
Check the addresses GAry -- I responded to my post once to apologise for a
spelling error, and now this one, -- there are several other Jims here, I
know it can get confusing. Maybe we should all pick a number Jim1,2,3

ect.

My appologies.

And I wasn't trying to knock you, just be a little funny. But
I guess the joke is on me ;)








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