On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:35:57 -0400, DSK wrote:

NOYB wrote:
We'll always have a military presence in Iraq. Always.


So, the pronouncements that we went into Iraq to spread democracy &
freedom, then leave, all that was also a lie?

DSK

The Pres will be on the tube in about 1 minute. Listen closely.
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"DSK" wrote in message
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NOYB wrote:
We'll always have a military presence in Iraq. Always.


So, the pronouncements that we went into Iraq to spread democracy &
freedom, then leave, all that was also a lie?


Nope. It was the truth...albeit a partial truth.

NOYB wrote:
We'll always have a military presence in Iraq. Always.



So, the pronouncements that we went into Iraq to spread democracy &
freedom, then leave, all that was also a lie?



NOYB wrote:
Nope. It was the truth...albeit a partial truth.


So, it's wet, but the partial truth is that it's dry and has always
been? It's black, but the partial truth is that it's white? Up but
partially down?

Your inner socialist agitator must be enjoying this, making the
Bush/Cheney party line so ridiculous.

DSK

This cowboy's idea
of leadership is to prance around in a flight suit. It's not enough. "

But I bet he knows what "is" is.... ;)

NOYB wrote:

We will never lose as long as a Bush is President.

Narrow minded twit.

In the famous words of NOYB, himself "go **** yourself".

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NOYB wrote:

We will never lose as long as a Bush is President.

Narrow minded twit.

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John H wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jun 2005 19:35:57 -0400, DSK wrote:

NOYB wrote:
We'll always have a military presence in Iraq. Always.


So, the pronouncements that we went into Iraq to spread democracy &
freedom, then leave, all that was also a lie?

DSK

The Pres will be on the tube in about 1 minute. Listen closely.
--
John H

yeah, he mentions 9/11 SIX TIMES. There is no connection to Iraq and
9/11, and most people know this, although many don't admit it.

The only apology that I can think that the "conservative" intelligent
persons of the US have to make, is that we provided a public school system
that could unleash people that cannot understand the real issues of the war.
This war is not lost! The campaign is actually going quite well.
Unfortunately, due to most of the network news medias bias you won't be able
to see the victories. You might actually have to do a little research to
find the truth. But I can see from the original post, that research would
be out of the question.

"DSK" wrote in message
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I would like to ask the conservatives on this board to publicly
apologize for supporting this war.


NOYB wrote:
Go **** yourself.


What an intelligent, well reasoned response.

BTW--I would like to ask the liberals on this board to publicly thank the
President for having the insight to institute a plan that would draw the
terrorists into a central location in the Middle East...so that our
properly armed soldiers can fight them there, instead of civilians
getting blown up over here.


Actually, that's not what's happening at all.

Ask any clued-in person at the CIA, DIA, State Dept, or military intel
about the 'Class of 2005' effect.

DSK

NOBBY wrote:
Whoever the next President is, I just hope he doesn't pull out of Iraq,
further emboldening the terrorists.


You said the other day that we will "always" have military in Iraq? Why
did President Bush, just last night, say that we will not stay one day
longer than necessary?

Sounds to me like he's setting the stage for a 'declare victory and go
home' scenario.

thunder wrote:
Well, I agree with that. Thanks to GWB, we have broken Iraq. It is now
our duty to fix it.


Agreed, but how? Right now, there is darn little progress being made on
"rebuilding" Iraq... our military was ordered to blow up electric &
water plants, so that US contractors could make a fat profit rebuilding
them... but now the contractors are spending 99% of their money on
security, and 99% of their time hunkered down waiting. We haven't even
restored basic services to all of Baghdad.

DSK

Jack wrote:
The only apology that I can think that the "conservative" intelligent
persons of the US have to make, is that we provided a public school system
that could unleash people that cannot understand the real issues of the war.

What, cheap oil and getting revenge for W's daddy?


This war is not lost! The campaign is actually going quite well.

If by 'the campaign' you mean the scramble for dollars by Bush &
Cheney's cronies, then yeah it's great. However, the overall strategic
outlook in terms of conventional military strength has not looked so
bleak for the U.S. since the British marched in and burned the White
House in 1812. We are heavily in debt, have very little uncommitted
strength, and no credibibility.

If you look at the anti-terrorist picture, it's possibly worse. Instead
of isolated bases in Afghanistan, anti-US terrorists now have a
centralized location. Instead of using irrational religious dogma to try
and make recruits hate America, now they flock into terrorist cells with
a burning desire to kill Americans even if it means becoming a suicide
bomber. Instead of learning how to home-brew primitive bombs from books,
now they have live-fire exercises with sophisticated IEDs. Yeah, it's
going well.


Unfortunately, due to most of the network news medias bias you won't be able
to see the victories.

You mean, Fox News and the Rush Limbaugh Hair Club For Angry White Men
isn't giving us the truth?

Face facts, the mainstream media now is biased very heavily towards
promoting President Bush and his agenda. How many times have you heard
about how terrible Howard Dean is, and how many times have you heard
about Halliburton's ongoing theft & fraud investigation?


... You might actually have to do a little research to
find the truth. But I can see from the original post, that research would
be out of the question.

I can see from your post that facing actual facts in the real world is
out o the question, so go ahead with your 'research.' Maybe you can tell
us how the insurgency is on it's last legs.

DSK