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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:bn6qc.5145 He was impeached for having an affair. There was nothing else his opponents could needle him with. That simply is not true, Doug. You know I'm right, but if you want to keep believing it, and it helps you keep your bitterness alive, then feel free. |
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"John Gaquin" wrote in message
... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:bn6qc.5145 He was impeached for having an affair. There was nothing else his opponents could needle him with. That simply is not true, Doug. You know I'm right, but if you want to keep believing it, and it helps you keep your bitterness alive, then feel free. Two questions: 1) What else did they have that they could've dogged him about? 2) Was there any important business they could've attended to, or did Clinton interrupt a poker tournament at the Capitol? |
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Actually the last elected POTUS is still President of the USA. Just because the AGore people tried to change the rules after the election, and did not succeed, does not make Bush appointed. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John Gaquin" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message There's also a big difference between an extramarital affair, and using your country's armed forces as a no-charge mercenary force to protect your family's investments. There certainly is! As soon as a President has been impeached for having an affair, and as soon as it is documented that a President has used the US Armed Forces to protect his/her personal wealth, then we can investigate and debate. Until such events transpire, try to stick with facts. He was impeached for having an affair. There was nothing else his opponents could needle him with. He was not impeached for the affair! He was impeached for committing PERJURY in a court of law! |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John Gaquin" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message There's also a big difference between an extramarital affair, and using your country's armed forces as a no-charge mercenary force to protect your family's investments. There certainly is! As soon as a President has been impeached for having an affair, and as soon as it is documented that a President has used the US Armed Forces to protect his/her personal wealth, then we can investigate and debate. Until such events transpire, try to stick with facts. He was impeached for having an affair. There was nothing else his opponents could needle him with. He was not impeached for the affair! He was impeached for committing PERJURY in a court of law! ....well...sorta kinda. |
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Over 80 million dollars.....
"John Gaquin" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message And how many millions of dollars did it cost the U.S. taxpayers to find out Bill likes sex? It cost nothing. Everyone already knew that. It cost money to establish that Bill, among other things, obstructed justice, attempted to suborn witnesses, possibly committed rape, and specifically and knowingly lied to Congress, a Grand Jury, and the American public on at least seventeen documented occasions. |
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link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... The best part: They asked him questions that any normal male on the planet would've danced around. Even Newt Gingrich. Hey....anyone here want to talk about how Newt got really quiet toward the end of the impeachment process? |
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Please list those 17 occasions. Technically he did NOT lie when he said "I
did not have sex with that woman", since in D.C. Oral is NOT considered sex ( Now If I cold convince other women of that ....) Also please enlighten us on obstructing justice, suborning witnesses, and possible rape. These are nice stories that Republicans like to tell, maybe if they tell them enough, someone other than the brainwashed will believe them. wrote in message link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... "John Gaquin" wrote in message ... "basskisser" wrote in message And how many millions of dollars did it cost the U.S. taxpayers to find out Bill likes sex? It cost nothing. Everyone already knew that. It cost money to establish that Bill, among other things, obstructed justice, attempted to suborn witnesses, possibly committed rape, and specifically and knowingly lied to Congress, a Grand Jury, and the American public on at least seventeen documented occasions. |
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Yes bill, you are right.. Bush was elected... by a vote of 5 to 4
"Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net... Actually the last elected POTUS is still President of the USA. Just because the AGore people tried to change the rules after the election, and did not succeed, does not make Bush appointed. |
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On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:15:01 +0000, Calif Bill wrote:
Actually the last elected POTUS is still President of the USA. Just because the AGore people tried to change the rules after the election, and did not succeed, does not make Bush appointed. http://www.lightparty.com/Misc/NoneD...ItTreason.html |
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wrote in message link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... If all $80 million was spent to find out Bill likes sex, how much did it cost to find out he committed perjury? |
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wrote in message link.net... Yes bill, you are right.. Bush was elected... by a vote of 5 to 4 That's still a plurality...so what's your point? |
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Wake up Noyb... That was the vote of the US Supreme Court
"NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message link.net... Yes bill, you are right.. Bush was elected... by a vote of 5 to 4 That's still a plurality...so what's your point? |
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http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...%20impeachment
Articles of impeachment, an instrument which, in cases of impeachment, performs the same office which an indictment does in a common criminal case. Once again John Gaguin, you are proven wrong.. Keep trying you might get it right one day "John Gaquin" wrote in message ... God, I wish you folks would read and learn. Articles of Impeachment are *not* the same as an indictment handed down by a Grand Jury. Somewhat similar, but not the same. Press sources tout this analogy to help simple minds grasp what's going on, but it doesn't always work, as we see. The issue does *not* become meaningless upon failure to convict. The fact of impeachment remains on record forever. |
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wrote in message link.net... Wake up Noyb... That was the vote of the US Supreme Court No kidding. And it's still a plurality. |
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John Gaquin wrote:
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message news:bn6qc.5145 He was impeached for having an affair. There was nothing else his opponents could needle him with. That simply is not true, Doug. You know I'm right, but if you want to keep believing it, and it helps you keep your bitterness alive, then feel free. The only reason Clinton went through his ordeal is that the right-wing assholes who control the US House were looking for anything they could misuse to give him problems., It had nothing to do with morality or the law or anything except "payback." |
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"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... The only reason Clinton went through his ordeal is that the right-wing assholes who control the US House were looking for anything they could misuse to give him problems., It had nothing to do with morality or the law or anything except "payback." No, sir. The only reason Clinton went through his ordeal is because he lacked common sense and a respect for the office that he held. The republican controlled House simply took advantange of his screw ups. Polititics, you know. Eisboch |
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Actually, you are wrong.. Clinton not only welcomed the investigation, he
requested it. Then the right wing went off the deep end on a witch hunt "Eisboch" wrote in message . .. "Harry Krause" wrote in message ... The only reason Clinton went through his ordeal is that the right-wing assholes who control the US House were looking for anything they could misuse to give him problems., It had nothing to do with morality or the law or anything except "payback." No, sir. The only reason Clinton went through his ordeal is because he lacked common sense and a respect for the office that he held. The republican controlled House simply took advantange of his screw ups. Polititics, you know. Eisboch |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net... wrote in message link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... If all $80 million was spent to find out Bill likes sex, how much did it cost to find out he committed perjury? I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. On what subject did he perjure himself, in your opinion? |
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ink.net... http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...%20impeachment Articles of impeachment, an instrument which, in cases of impeachment, performs the same office which an indictment does in a common criminal case. Once again John Gaguin, you are proven wrong.. Keep trying you might get it right one day It's just the law. Why would a Patriot like John need to know anything about that? |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... If all $80 million was spent to find out Bill likes sex, how much did it cost to find out he committed perjury? I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. On what subject did he perjure himself, in your opinion? "Sexual relations with that woman" |
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Eisboch wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message ... The only reason Clinton went through his ordeal is that the right-wing assholes who control the US House were looking for anything they could misuse to give him problems., It had nothing to do with morality or the law or anything except "payback." No, sir. The only reason Clinton went through his ordeal is because he lacked common sense and a respect for the office that he held. The republican controlled House simply took advantange of his screw ups. Polititics, you know. Eisboch And it had nothing to do with morality or the law. |
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Doug,
When Clinton was asked to testify before a grand jury he lied to the grand jury. "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... If all $80 million was spent to find out Bill likes sex, how much did it cost to find out he committed perjury? I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. On what subject did he perjure himself, in your opinion? |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... If all $80 million was spent to find out Bill likes sex, how much did it cost to find out he committed perjury? I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. On what subject did he perjure himself, in your opinion? "Sexual relations with that woman" Thank you. Your costume has melted, you silly little child. Clinton's sexual values never made any difference to you at the time, nor do they now. The only possible reason you think his impeachment was a good thing is pettiness or jealousy on your part. |
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"John Smith" wrote in message
news:N1cqc.70856$xw3.3934691@attbi_s04... Doug, When Clinton was asked to testify before a grand jury he lied to the grand jury. Regarding what subject, in YOUR OPINION. If you provide links or quotes, you will be admitting things you don't want spelled out in public. |
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wrote in message link.net... Bert It is a matter of the word chosen. You mean it depends upon what the definition of is is? |
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Actually, the real quote is what the definition of "sexual relations" is....
And according the Washington D.C. Law... I believe I saw somewhere that oral sex is not defined as sexual relations. "Bert Robbins" wrote in message ... wrote in message link.net... Bert It is a matter of the word chosen. You mean it depends upon what the definition of is is? |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message link.net... Over 80 million dollars..... If all $80 million was spent to find out Bill likes sex, how much did it cost to find out he committed perjury? I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. On what subject did he perjure himself, in your opinion? "Sexual relations with that woman" Thank you. Your costume has melted, you silly little child. Clinton's sexual values never made any difference to you at the time, nor do they now. The only possible reason you think his impeachment was a good thing is pettiness or jealousy on your part. I don't think impeachment was a good thing. I thought it was disgraceful. However, it was very effective in showing Clinton for what he truly was...a bold-faced liar. If he'd lie to a grand jury, he'd lie to the people. In fact, he looked at the camera, waved his finger, and *did* lie to the people. High crimes? Nawwww. But at least it was one lie that Republicans could prove...and then burn his ass with. |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net... I'm gonna play devil's advocate for a moment. On what subject did he perjure himself, in your opinion? "Sexual relations with that woman" Thank you. Your costume has melted, you silly little child. Clinton's sexual values never made any difference to you at the time, nor do they now. The only possible reason you think his impeachment was a good thing is pettiness or jealousy on your part. I don't think impeachment was a good thing. I thought it was disgraceful. However, it was very effective in showing Clinton for what he truly was...a bold-faced liar. If he'd lie to a grand jury, he'd lie to the people. In fact, he looked at the camera, waved his finger, and *did* lie to the people. High crimes? Nawwww. But at least it was one lie that Republicans could prove...and then burn his ass with. Priceless. Would you have felt the same way about Nixon, or was he another one of your great American heroes? What about Reagan and his Iran-Contra scam? By the way, it's bAld faced, not bOld faced. Strange, but true. |
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wrote in message link.net... Actually, the real quote is what the definition of "sexual relations" is.... And according the Washington D.C. Law... I believe I saw somewhere that oral sex is not defined as sexual relations. In Washington D.C., the home of our very unscrupulous Congressman and politicians, I'd definitely believe it if they had passed such a law. |
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It does not matter what he lied about, he committed perjury to a grand jury.
"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message news:N1cqc.70856$xw3.3934691@attbi_s04... Doug, When Clinton was asked to testify before a grand jury he lied to the grand jury. Regarding what subject, in YOUR OPINION. If you provide links or quotes, you will be admitting things you don't want spelled out in public. |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ...
He was impeached for having an affair. There was nothing else his opponents could needle him with. They learned to play that "game" from the left. After Bob Packwood, John Tower, Clarence Thomas, and the speaker who never was (the guy who resigned prior to Hastert) it was time to put some "points on the board". So, why don't you stop crybabying about the fact that the very same tactics you repeatedly and sucessfully used against others managed to "snare" your boy? Some of you need to go weep on your mommy's aporn behind closed doors for awhile and quit embarrassing yourselves in public. Comeback when you can finally stop whimpering. Btw, did Clinton lose his license to practice law for "having an affair"? Of course not. -- SJM |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message
... "John Smith" wrote in message news:N1cqc.70856$xw3.3934691@attbi_s04... Doug, When Clinton was asked to testify before a grand jury he lied to the grand jury. Regarding what subject, in YOUR OPINION. If you provide links or quotes, you will be admitting things you don't want spelled out in public. Well, I guess you're smarter than NOYB, but only by a hair. |
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"Scott McFadden" wrote in message
om... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... He was impeached for having an affair. There was nothing else his opponents could needle him with. They learned to play that "game" from the left. After Bob Packwood, John Tower, Clarence Thomas, and the speaker who never was (the guy who resigned prior to Hastert) it was time to put some "points on the board". Hard to believe you'd actually include Clarence Thomas in that list. :-) So, why don't you stop crybabying about the fact that the very same tactics you repeatedly and sucessfully used against others managed to "snare" your boy? Some of you need to go weep on your mommy's aporn behind closed doors for awhile and quit embarrassing yourselves in public. Comeback when you can finally stop whimpering. Btw, did Clinton lose his license to practice law for "having an affair"? Of course not. -- SJM |
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"NOYB" wrote in message
link.net... wrote in message link.net... Actually, the real quote is what the definition of "sexual relations" is.... And according the Washington D.C. Law... I believe I saw somewhere that oral sex is not defined as sexual relations. In Washington D.C., the home of our very unscrupulous Congressman and politicians, I'd definitely believe it if they had passed such a law. Any chance the law categorizes oral sex as a sin against god, instead of a "valid" sexual act? Or, don't your Sesame Street-league news sources discuss the religious history of this country? |
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"NOYB" wrote in message link.net... wrote in message link.net... Actually, the real quote is what the definition of "sexual relations" is.... And according the Washington D.C. Law... I believe I saw somewhere that oral sex is not defined as sexual relations. In Washington D.C., the home of our very unscrupulous Congressman and politicians, I'd definitely believe it if they had passed such a law. Doesn't matter what D.C law is, only federal law would apply |
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wrote in message link.net... Yes bill, you are right.. Bush was elected... by a vote of 5 to 4 "Calif Bill" wrote in message nk.net... Actually the last elected POTUS is still President of the USA. Just because the AGore people tried to change the rules after the election, and did not succeed, does not make Bush appointed. And gore lost 4 to 5. and the Daley who learned to steal elections at his daddy's feet, lost out on theft this time. |
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"thunder" wrote in message ... On Mon, 17 May 2004 19:15:01 +0000, Calif Bill wrote: Actually the last elected POTUS is still President of the USA. Just because the AGore people tried to change the rules after the election, and did not succeed, does not make Bush appointed. http://www.lightparty.com/Misc/NoneD...ItTreason.html So the Charles Manson prosecutor has an opinion. Just not the same as the majority of the Supreme court. As the court stated, you can not change the rules in the middle of the election. You would have been happy if the rules had been changed to give Gore the election? Saying any double votes counted for the Democrat candidate, and any non-vote also counted for the Democrat? |
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"Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message news:N1cqc.70856$xw3.3934691@attbi_s04... Doug, When Clinton was asked to testify before a grand jury he lied to the grand jury. Regarding what subject, in YOUR OPINION. If you provide links or quotes, you will be admitting things you don't want spelled out in public. Well, I guess you're smarter than NOYB, but only by a hair. He lied in a sexual harassment case. If you pulled down your pants and told an employee of yours to suck the one-eyed snake, you would probably end up in jail and end up paying the employee a lot of money. Clinton escaped the jail time, but paid the employee a bunch of money. When you are ordering a subordinate to have sex with you, it is now out of the consensual sex realm and in to the realm of you having to answer questions under oath in front of a grand jury. You appear to be not very smart. |
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"Calif Bill" wrote in message
ink.net... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "Doug Kanter" wrote in message ... "John Smith" wrote in message news:N1cqc.70856$xw3.3934691@attbi_s04... Doug, When Clinton was asked to testify before a grand jury he lied to the grand jury. Regarding what subject, in YOUR OPINION. If you provide links or quotes, you will be admitting things you don't want spelled out in public. Well, I guess you're smarter than NOYB, but only by a hair. He lied in a sexual harassment case. If you pulled down your pants and told an employee of yours to suck the one-eyed snake, you would probably end up in jail and end up paying the employee a lot of money. Clinton escaped the jail time, but paid the employee a bunch of money. When you are ordering a subordinate to have sex with you, it is now out of the consensual sex realm and in to the realm of you having to answer questions under oath in front of a grand jury. You appear to be not very smart. In other discussions of Clinton, someone's usually had a list of his supposed transgressions. I needed to be sure NOYB and Smith were focused on the blowjob, just to be sure we could put things in perspective against the vast landscape of what the current president has done. Mission accomplished. |
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