Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

With my buddy Rich (better known as "Gimp") I took the "PocoLoco" out for her
first fishing trip after my trip to Holland. We left the dock about 7:15, headed
for buoy #83 east of Deale. Upon hitting 30' of water we put the lines out, two
umbrella rigs and two tandem parachute rigs. Within 30 minutes one of the reels
began screaming and we pulled in a 35" rockfish on a chartreuse parachute.
(That's similar to a bucktail, with a plastic 9" sassy shad attached.) The fish
put up a decent fight, although rockfish are not known for their fights.

We continued trolling for about four more hours, but didn't even have a bite. At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four gallon per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44. Not bad for a nice
rockfish, only a little over $1 per inch!

The weather was spectacular, light breeze, waves about one foot. It was a
gorgeous day!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

John H wrote:
.... At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four gallon per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44.

Perhaps you should consider getting a sailboat.

DSK

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John H wrote:

With my buddy Rich (better known as "Gimp") I took the "PocoLoco" out for her
first fishing trip after my trip to Holland. We left the dock about 7:15, headed
for buoy #83 east of Deale. Upon hitting 30' of water we put the lines out, two
umbrella rigs and two tandem parachute rigs. Within 30 minutes one of the reels
began screaming and we pulled in a 35" rockfish on a chartreuse parachute.
(That's similar to a bucktail, with a plastic 9" sassy shad attached.) The fish
put up a decent fight, although rockfish are not known for their fights.

We continued trolling for about four more hours, but didn't even have a bite. At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four gallon per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44. Not bad for a nice
rockfish, only a little over $1 per inch!

The weather was spectacular, light breeze, waves about one foot. It was a
gorgeous day!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


Did you circle 83 and scan the bottom with your fishfinder? Very, very
interesting. There is something BIG down there...

83A is an interesting place to fish, too. Bottom structure...natural.

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

DSK wrote:

John H wrote:

.... At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four
gallon per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44.


Perhaps you should consider getting a sailboat.

DSK


He's trolling too fast.

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On Thu, 13 May 2004 15:34:36 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
.... At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four gallon per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44.

Perhaps you should consider getting a sailboat.

DSK

I see a lot of sailboats in the bay, but never see anyone fishing from them. Why
not? Is it because they require a lot more attention than a power boat? I'm not
trying to put down sailboaters, I just wonder why more of them don't try to fish
from their boats.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

John H wrote:
I see a lot of sailboats in the bay, but never see anyone fishing from them. Why
not?

Maybe you're not looking close enough? It's true that a fairly low
percentage of sailors are interested in fishing, as opposed to 100% of
center console or walk-around boaters. But I know a lot of guys who like
to drown worms from their boats. Among long distance cruisers, it's
almost mandatory.

... Is it because they require a lot more attention than a power boat?

A little. But not a lot. It's like walking & chewing gum. And you could
easily anchor, or use an autopilot.

... I'm not
trying to put down sailboaters, I just wonder why more of them don't try to fish
from their boats.

OK. I'm not trying to put down fishermen, either. I was idly speculating
if the increase in gas prices is going to increase interest in sailing.
It's actually not the cheap & efficient means of propulsion it's often
made out to be, so probably not.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:04:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

I see a lot of sailboats in the bay, but never see anyone fishing from them.

I occasionally see people fishing from their sailboats, but I've never
seen anyone sailing in their fishing boat.

bb

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On Thu, 13 May 2004 22:48:44 GMT, bb wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:04:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

I see a lot of sailboats in the bay, but never see anyone fishing from them.

I occasionally see people fishing from their sailboats, but I've never
seen anyone sailing in their fishing boat.

bb

Does holding up a bikini top (or bottom) count?

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

On Thu, 13 May 2004 17:41:59 -0400, DSK wrote:

John H wrote:
I see a lot of sailboats in the bay, but never see anyone fishing from them. Why
not?

Maybe you're not looking close enough? It's true that a fairly low
percentage of sailors are interested in fishing, as opposed to 100% of
center console or walk-around boaters. But I know a lot of guys who like
to drown worms from their boats. Among long distance cruisers, it's
almost mandatory.

... Is it because they require a lot more attention than a power boat?

A little. But not a lot. It's like walking & chewing gum. And you could
easily anchor, or use an autopilot.

... I'm not
trying to put down sailboaters, I just wonder why more of them don't try to fish
from their boats.

OK. I'm not trying to put down fishermen, either. I was idly speculating
if the increase in gas prices is going to increase interest in sailing.
It's actually not the cheap & efficient means of propulsion it's often
made out to be, so probably not.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

The increase hurts a little, but it amounts to only a couple dollars for a trip.
In other words, the marginal cost doesn't play into the decision much. Also, I
always have a friend or two to go along and share the cost. Split two or three
ways, the cost isn't too bad.

I've never thought seriously about buying a sail boat, but I have thought about
buying a bigger power boat, so I'll have more room for fishing!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

John H wrote:
The increase hurts a little, but it amounts to only a couple dollars for a trip.

Agreed. We see the effect of higher prices more in driving to the boat
than in use of the boat. Fuel is a very small cost of ownership; unless
you have a real gas-guzzler of a fast boat and use it at high speed a lot.

In other words, the marginal cost doesn't play into the decision much. Also, I
always have a friend or two to go along and share the cost. Split two or three
ways, the cost isn't too bad.

Sure. And most people, when they get 'bit' for big fuel bill, will try
to use the boat in a more fuel efficient manner (ie go slower, don't go
as far) rather than switch to a different type of boat.


I've never thought seriously about buying a sail boat, but I have thought about
buying a bigger power boat, so I'll have more room for fishing!

And it would be less weather sensitive, too.

Fair Skies
Doug King

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On Thu, 13 May 2004 19:31:38 -0400, John H
wrote:


I occasionally see people fishing from their sailboats, but I've never
seen anyone sailing in their fishing boat.

bb

Does holding up a bikini top (or bottom) count?

Yes, but in a different way.

bb

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

"John H" wrote in message
...

With my buddy Rich (better known as "Gimp") I took the "PocoLoco" out for
her
first fishing trip after my trip to Holland. We left the dock about 7:15,
headed
for buoy #83 east of Deale. Upon hitting 30' of water we put the lines
out, two
umbrella rigs and two tandem parachute rigs. Within 30 minutes one of the
reels
began screaming and we pulled in a 35" rockfish on a chartreuse parachute.
(That's similar to a bucktail, with a plastic 9" sassy shad attached.) The
fish
put up a decent fight, although rockfish are not known for their fights.

We continued trolling for about four more hours, but didn't even have a
bite. At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four gallon
per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44. Not bad for a nice
rockfish, only a little over $1 per inch!

The weather was spectacular, light breeze, waves about one foot. It was a
gorgeous day!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

I do not understand the trolling for stripers with umbrella rigs. No wonder
there is little fight. Too much gear. We troll for stripers in the
Sacramento Delta and SF bay with either HairRaisers or rebels with a worm
tail trailer. That way we can catch them on 12-17# line. Fight well.
Bill

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

"bb" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 13 May 2004 16:04:01 -0400, John H
wrote:

I see a lot of sailboats in the bay, but never see anyone fishing from
them.

I occasionally see people fishing from their sailboats, but I've never
seen anyone sailing in their fishing boat.

bb


Then you have never seen people fishing from sailboats.

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"John H" wrote in message
...

With my buddy Rich (better known as "Gimp") I took the "PocoLoco" out
for
her
first fishing trip after my trip to Holland. We left the dock about
7:15,
headed
for buoy #83 east of Deale. Upon hitting 30' of water we put the lines
out, two
umbrella rigs and two tandem parachute rigs. Within 30 minutes one of
the
reels
began screaming and we pulled in a 35" rockfish on a chartreuse
parachute.
(That's similar to a bucktail, with a plastic 9" sassy shad attached.)
The
fish
put up a decent fight, although rockfish are not known for their fights.

We continued trolling for about four more hours, but didn't even have a
bite. At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four
gallon
per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44. Not bad for a nice
rockfish, only a little over $1 per inch!

The weather was spectacular, light breeze, waves about one foot. It was
a
gorgeous day!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

I do not understand the trolling for stripers with umbrella rigs. No
wonder
there is little fight. Too much gear. We troll for stripers in the
Sacramento Delta and SF bay with either HairRaisers or rebels with a worm
tail trailer. That way we can catch them on 12-17# line. Fight well.
Bill

The Chesapeake Bay is a magical fishing place. If you have ever been jigging
for Sea Trout, weakfish, and have been slowly pulling the Sea Trout up to
the surface to and just as the Sea Trout gets to the surface you feel a pull
on the line and see a flash and then realize that half of your Sea Trout is
gone. What just happened is that a blue fish has eaten your dinner.

Also, you can catch spot, flounder and blue fish all within the same 30
minute time frame from the shore.

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

Calif Bill wrote:

"John H" wrote in message
...

With my buddy Rich (better known as "Gimp") I took the "PocoLoco" out for

her

first fishing trip after my trip to Holland. We left the dock about 7:15,

headed

for buoy #83 east of Deale. Upon hitting 30' of water we put the lines

out, two

umbrella rigs and two tandem parachute rigs. Within 30 minutes one of the

reels

began screaming and we pulled in a 35" rockfish on a chartreuse parachute.
(That's similar to a bucktail, with a plastic 9" sassy shad attached.) The

fish

put up a decent fight, although rockfish are not known for their fights.

We continued trolling for about four more hours, but didn't even have a

bite. At

$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four gallon

per

hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44. Not bad for a nice
rockfish, only a little over $1 per inch!

The weather was spectacular, light breeze, waves about one foot. It was a
gorgeous day!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I do not understand the trolling for stripers with umbrella rigs. No wonder
there is little fight. Too much gear. We troll for stripers in the
Sacramento Delta and SF bay with either HairRaisers or rebels with a worm
tail trailer. That way we can catch them on 12-17# line. Fight well.
Bill




There is a growing contingent of fishermen in Chesapeake Bay who are
beginning to realize that when you use an umbrella rig, what you really
are doing is catching heavy metal. Stripers are not great fighters,
especially on the heavy tackle you need to handle the typical umbrella rig.

Many fishermen have good success trolling for stripers with parachute
jigs tipped with artificials. I use these once in a while, but I use the
lightest chutes around...and I use fairly light tackle, even when
trolling for stripers.

There are a couple of places between where Herring fishes and I fish
where you can catch stripers by trolling nothing more than a real or
artificial sandworm. Sandworms are the traditional striper trolling bait
up north, and they work in the Bay, too.

I've also caught stripers while anchored near structure...using chunk bait.

The endless hours of trolling heavy rigs for stripers...and then reeling
in a heavy umbrella rig...not for me. Besides, at best, stripers are
third-rate table fare. To me, the real Bay table fish is flounder.

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Bert Robbins wrote:

"Calif Bill" wrote in message
link.net...

"John H" wrote in message
. ..

With my buddy Rich (better known as "Gimp") I took the "PocoLoco" out

for

her

first fishing trip after my trip to Holland. We left the dock about

7:15,

headed

for buoy #83 east of Deale. Upon hitting 30' of water we put the lines

out, two

umbrella rigs and two tandem parachute rigs. Within 30 minutes one of

the

reels

began screaming and we pulled in a 35" rockfish on a chartreuse

parachute.

(That's similar to a bucktail, with a plastic 9" sassy shad attached.)

The

fish

put up a decent fight, although rockfish are not known for their fights.

We continued trolling for about four more hours, but didn't even have a

bite. At

$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four

gallon

per

hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44. Not bad for a nice
rockfish, only a little over $1 per inch!

The weather was spectacular, light breeze, waves about one foot. It was

a

gorgeous day!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

I do not understand the trolling for stripers with umbrella rigs. No

wonder

there is little fight. Too much gear. We troll for stripers in the
Sacramento Delta and SF bay with either HairRaisers or rebels with a worm
tail trailer. That way we can catch them on 12-17# line. Fight well.
Bill


The Chesapeake Bay is a magical fishing place. If you have ever been jigging
for Sea Trout, weakfish, and have been slowly pulling the Sea Trout up to
the surface to and just as the Sea Trout gets to the surface you feel a pull
on the line and see a flash and then realize that half of your Sea Trout is
gone. What just happened is that a blue fish has eaten your dinner.

Also, you can catch spot, flounder and blue fish all within the same 30
minute time frame from the shore.




In the right places you can catch flounder and seatrout 100 feet from
shore. Blues can be anywhere, and spot are also a near shore variety.
In the southern bay, tautogs, reds, and occasional pelagics.

Another Beautiful Bay Day!
 

DSK wrote:
John H wrote:

The increase hurts a little, but it amounts to only a couple dollars
for a trip.


Agreed. We see the effect of higher prices more in driving to the boat
than in use of the boat. Fuel is a very small cost of ownership; unless
you have a real gas-guzzler of a fast boat and use it at high speed a lot.

That's sort of the same thing as with a car though. Fuel is maybe only
1/3rd the cost per mile of driving an average car. The latest increases
of maybe 0.20 per gal in the the last few weeks are around a 10%
increase. 1/3rd of that is around a 3% increase in the total cost per
mile of driving your car in the last few weeks. You just notice the
fuel costs more than the other costs (maintenance, insurance,
depreciation, cost of money tied up in the car, loan interest, etc.)
because it's coming out of your pocket at the pump every time you fill up.

Steve

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On Fri, 14 May 2004 02:27:22 GMT, "Calif Bill"
wrote:


"John H" wrote in message
.. .

With my buddy Rich (better known as "Gimp") I took the "PocoLoco" out for
her
first fishing trip after my trip to Holland. We left the dock about 7:15,
headed
for buoy #83 east of Deale. Upon hitting 30' of water we put the lines
out, two
umbrella rigs and two tandem parachute rigs. Within 30 minutes one of the
reels
began screaming and we pulled in a 35" rockfish on a chartreuse parachute.
(That's similar to a bucktail, with a plastic 9" sassy shad attached.) The
fish
put up a decent fight, although rockfish are not known for their fights.

We continued trolling for about four more hours, but didn't even have a
bite. At
$2.20 per gallon for gas, a total of five hours trolling at a four gallon
per
hour fuel consumption rate, that fish cost about $44. Not bad for a nice
rockfish, only a little over $1 per inch!

The weather was spectacular, light breeze, waves about one foot. It was a
gorgeous day!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

I do not understand the trolling for stripers with umbrella rigs. No wonder
there is little fight. Too much gear. We troll for stripers in the
Sacramento Delta and SF bay with either HairRaisers or rebels with a worm
tail trailer. That way we can catch them on 12-17# line. Fight well.
Bill


About half of the fish I've caught were on umbrellas, the other half on
parachutes (similar to a buck tail with a plastic shad).

When caught on the umbrella, there is not much fight. More like dragging a
Volkswagen through the water. But, they still taste just as good.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!