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John Gaquin May 13th 04 05:45 PM

Where is everyone?????
 
Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government, the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.

Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized nations.]
Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad because
you still wind up dead. What the hell is wrong with you people? Like the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.



Harry Krause May 13th 04 06:04 PM

Where is everyone?????
 
John Gaquin wrote:

Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government, the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.



Maybe everyone agrees. One thing is certain...more details of the
tortures are coming to light and more than seven soldiers were involved.
Oh...and the soldiers did a tad more than pull frat hazing pranks on
prisoners.


Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized nations.]


There are many ways to hide one's face when one is killing civilians.
One is to drop cluster bombs from a mile up in sky where no one can see
your face. No need for a hood, eh? Oh...I know...if any of those bombs
killed innocent civilians, well, we're sorry.



Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad because
you still wind up dead.



Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties. In
fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.



What the hell is wrong with you people? Like the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.



And, don't forget, a direct result of Bush-Cheney-Rumsfeld policies in
Iraq. It is foolish to think that those with an entirely different
culture will respond the way Christian America does, by simply bombing
from above and lobbing in shells from tanks.

Let he who is without sin cast the first stone, eh?

John Gaquin May 13th 04 06:42 PM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gho77F311ksU1@uni-

Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties. In
fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.



You can make any effort you want to explain away what you put in print.
Nothing changes, for any of you. By your words and by your silence the truth
becomes known. The mist dissolves and the face becomes clear. You, Doug,
asskisser, et al -- show more concern for discommoded terrorists than for a
fellow citizen being hacked to death merely for effect.



Harry Krause May 13th 04 07:27 PM

Where is everyone?????
 
John Gaquin wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gho77F311ksU1@uni-

Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties. In
fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.




You can make any effort you want to explain away what you put in print.
Nothing changes, for any of you. By your words and by your silence the truth
becomes known. The mist dissolves and the face becomes clear. You, Doug,
asskisser, et al -- show more concern for discommoded terrorists than for a
fellow citizen being hacked to death merely for effect.


Bull****.

The behavior of our soldiers in those prisons has gone a long way
towards putting us down at the level of those we're supposed to be
opposing. My guess is the prison torture story not only has legs, it is
far more of them than we - or congress - have seen so far. And those
people being held in those prisons were not just inconvenienced, as you
claim. They were brutalized.

As for Berg, he surely did not deserve being executed. He also was in a
place he should't have been, and he was warned several times to get the
hell out of Iraq. Or so our government claims.

This entire mess - all of it, every bit of it - is the fault of George
W. Bush and his neoconvict advisers. Bush has made a bad situation worse.

And what about those oil prices...who is making the money there...his
supporters in big oil? Halliburton? Bush's buddies in the terrorist
state of Saudi Arabia?

We've got a summer of interesting disclosures ahead. Bush will be
paddling furiously to avoid going over the falls.

John Smith May 13th 04 07:39 PM

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Since the majority of these soldiers were trained while Bill Clinton was in
office, if you use your logic, Bill Clinton is to blame. Since the Generals
were probably trained while Carter was in office, let's blame Carter for the
Generals not being on top of things. ; )




"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gho77F311ksU1@uni-

Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties. In
fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.




You can make any effort you want to explain away what you put in print.
Nothing changes, for any of you. By your words and by your silence the

truth
becomes known. The mist dissolves and the face becomes clear. You,

Doug,
asskisser, et al -- show more concern for discommoded terrorists than

for a
fellow citizen being hacked to death merely for effect.


Bull****.

The behavior of our soldiers in those prisons has gone a long way
towards putting us down at the level of those we're supposed to be
opposing. My guess is the prison torture story not only has legs, it is
far more of them than we - or congress - have seen so far. And those
people being held in those prisons were not just inconvenienced, as you
claim. They were brutalized.

As for Berg, he surely did not deserve being executed. He also was in a
place he should't have been, and he was warned several times to get the
hell out of Iraq. Or so our government claims.

This entire mess - all of it, every bit of it - is the fault of George
W. Bush and his neoconvict advisers. Bush has made a bad situation worse.

And what about those oil prices...who is making the money there...his
supporters in big oil? Halliburton? Bush's buddies in the terrorist
state of Saudi Arabia?

We've got a summer of interesting disclosures ahead. Bush will be
paddling furiously to avoid going over the falls.




John H May 13th 04 08:21 PM

Where is everyone?????
 
On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:45:35 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:

Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government, the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.

Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized nations.]
Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad because
you still wind up dead. What the hell is wrong with you people? Like the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.


Well, yesterday I went fishing. Whoops, that's on topic. Better start another
thread.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Harry Krause May 13th 04 08:22 PM

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John H wrote:

On Thu, 13 May 2004 12:45:35 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government, the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.

Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized nations.]
Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad because
you still wind up dead. What the hell is wrong with you people? Like the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.



Well, yesterday I went fishing. Whoops, that's on topic. Better start another
thread.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!




ahh, good...hope you caught the dinks so I don't.

John H May 13th 04 08:57 PM

Where is everyone?????
 
On Thu, 13 May 2004 13:42:11 -0400, "John Gaquin"
wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gho77F311ksU1@uni-

Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties. In
fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.



You can make any effort you want to explain away what you put in print.
Nothing changes, for any of you. By your words and by your silence the truth
becomes known. The mist dissolves and the face becomes clear. You, Doug,
asskisser, et al -- show more concern for discommoded terrorists than for a
fellow citizen being hacked to death merely for effect.


John, you are dealing with some folks who unashamedly hope for atrocities that
will reflect badly on the administration. In their eyes, the prisoner abuse was
a 'very bad' thing because it reflected negatively on the administration.
Therefore they are happy it occurred. The beheading of Berg reflects badly on Al
Quaeda, but not the administration. Therefore it is not nearly 'bad' enough for
them to be happy about.

Both acts were bad. But the beheading of an innocent person is much more severe
and atrocious then the stripping, posing, and photographing of prisoners. Of
course, Ted Kennedy and Harry will disagree, but who gives a rat's a$$.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

John Gaquin May 14th 04 12:27 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2ght2rF30aogU1@uni-

The behavior of our soldiers in those prisons has gone a long way
towards putting us down at the level


Cram that where the sun don't shine. The so-called "Arab street" doesn't
give two ****s about the abu Ghraib photos, because that's exactly what they
expect to happen in a prison. You can't **** this away anymore, Harry.
You've shown where your loyalties and preferences lie. You are actively
working against the best interests of the US.

... My guess is the prison torture story .....


There has been no documented torture, only allegations. The only documented
events involve a rape at Camp Bucca last May, and piles of naked terrorists.
Every allegation of torture so far has come from -- an Iraqi prisoner!!!
Imagine that!! Taguba considered them credible for God only knows what
reason.

He also was in a
place he should't have been, and he was warned several times to get the
hell out of Iraq. Or so our government claims.


Well, it is clearly his own fault that his head got hacked off, on camera.
Happens all the time.


This entire mess - all of it, every bit of it - is the fault of George
W. Bush and his neoconvict advisers.


Well, is it Bush's fault, or Berg's? Make up your mind! Pick someone,
because it surely isn't Zarqawi's fault. God knows, we can't blame the
f..ing Arab! Probably had a "deprived childhood", you know.

And what about those oil prices...who is making the money there...his
supporters in big oil? Halliburton? Bush's buddies in the terrorist
state of Saudi Arabia?


Oh, just shut up! Its all about oil? How f...ing dumb can you get? Your
junior high school rationales are nothing but tripe, pumped out by your left
wing pals and targeted at 2-digit IQs. I suppose it should tell us all
something that you so readily buy into all the ****. You're believing your
own press releases. God knows I've tried several times to give you the
benefit of the doubt, but you've now proven me inarguably wrong -- you are,
in fact, every bit as galactically senseless as you seem to be.










John Gaquin May 14th 04 12:33 AM

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"John H" wrote in message

The Berg beheading shows Americans yet again just exactly the kind of people
and culture we are dealing with. The response of the few rabid leftists on
this NG shows all the others just exactly what kind of people *they* are.

Don't even mention Senator Kopechne. That gas-bag left the planet years
ago.



May 14th 04 12:39 AM

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Hey Harry

Looks like your 2-digit IQ target took the bait.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2ght2rF30aogU1@uni-

Your
junior high school rationales are nothing but tripe, pumped out by your

left
wing pals and targeted at 2-digit IQs.




John Gaquin May 14th 04 01:05 AM

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wrote in message news:UGToc.4827

Looks like your 2-digit IQ target took the bait.


Christ, another 4th grade wit.



Harry Krause May 14th 04 02:37 AM

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wrote:

Hey Harry

Looks like your 2-digit IQ target took the bait.

"John Gaquin" wrote in message
...

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2ght2rF30aogU1@uni-

Your
junior high school rationales are nothing but tripe, pumped out by your


left

wing pals and targeted at 2-digit IQs.






Yes, Gawkin' swallowed the treble hooks.

Harry Krause May 14th 04 02:48 AM

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John Gaquin wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2ght2rF30aogU1@uni-

The behavior of our soldiers in those prisons has gone a long way
towards putting us down at the level



Cram that where the sun don't shine. The so-called "Arab street" doesn't
give two ****s about the abu Ghraib photos, because that's exactly what they
expect to happen in a prison. You can't **** this away anymore, Harry.
You've shown where your loyalties and preferences lie. You are actively
working against the best interests of the US.




Because I don't buy into your right-wing rationalizations?


... My guess is the prison torture story .....


There has been no documented torture, only allegations. The only documented
events involve a rape at Camp Bucca last May, and piles of naked terrorists.
Every allegation of torture so far has come from -- an Iraqi prisoner!!!
Imagine that!! Taguba considered them credible for God only knows what
reason.



Right...the whole thing is made up. And Rush thinks whatever happened,
it was ok.



He also was in a
place he should't have been, and he was warned several times to get the
hell out of Iraq. Or so our government claims.



Well, it is clearly his own fault that his head got hacked off, on camera.
Happens all the time.



No, but anyone with a working brain would have stayed the hell away from
Iraq. Especially a free-lance.






This entire mess - all of it, every bit of it - is the fault of George
W. Bush and his neoconvict advisers.



Well, is it Bush's fault, or Berg's? Make up your mind! Pick someone,
because it surely isn't Zarqawi's fault. God knows, we can't blame the
f..ing Arab! Probably had a "deprived childhood", you know.



The buck stops on Bush's desk. He decided to make war on Iraq.

And what about those oil prices...who is making the money there...his


supporters in big oil? Halliburton? Bush's buddies in the terrorist
state of Saudi Arabia?



Oh, just shut up! Its all about oil? How f...ing dumb can you get? Your
junior high school rationales are nothing but tripe, pumped out by your left
wing pals and targeted at 2-digit IQs. I suppose it should tell us all
something that you so readily buy into all the ****. You're believing your
own press releases. God knows I've tried several times to give you the
benefit of the doubt, but you've now proven me inarguably wrong -- you are,
in fact, every bit as galactically senseless as you seem to be.



Check the price of oil lately, Gawkin?

BTW, you seem to be a bit overwhelmed by your own "rightness."



I suggest you get yourself a large package of BEANO; you are so full of
noxious gas, you might explode at any minute.

Whatever you do, don't strike a match...

Bert Robbins May 14th 04 03:01 AM

Where is everyone?????
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
John Gaquin wrote:
"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gho77F311ksU1@uni-

Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties. In
fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.




You can make any effort you want to explain away what you put in print.
Nothing changes, for any of you. By your words and by your silence the

truth
becomes known. The mist dissolves and the face becomes clear. You,

Doug,
asskisser, et al -- show more concern for discommoded terrorists than

for a
fellow citizen being hacked to death merely for effect.


Bull****.

The behavior of our soldiers in those prisons has gone a long way
towards putting us down at the level of those we're supposed to be
opposing. My guess is the prison torture story not only has legs, it is
far more of them than we - or congress - have seen so far. And those
people being held in those prisons were not just inconvenienced, as you
claim. They were brutalized.

As for Berg, he surely did not deserve being executed. He also was in a
place he should't have been, and he was warned several times to get the
hell out of Iraq. Or so our government claims.

This entire mess - all of it, every bit of it - is the fault of George
W. Bush and his neoconvict advisers. Bush has made a bad situation worse.

And what about those oil prices...who is making the money there...his
supporters in big oil? Halliburton? Bush's buddies in the terrorist
state of Saudi Arabia?

We've got a summer of interesting disclosures ahead. Bush will be
paddling furiously to avoid going over the falls.


It is interesting watching all of you libs have oral spasms about what bush
did and what bush didn't do. The one thing missing from this election cycle
is what Kerry is going to do if, by a remote chance, he gets elected. All
of my bush hating friends keep saying "we have got to get Bush out of
office." but, nothing about what Kerry is going to do. Ever heard better the
devil you know then the one you don't know.



Bert Robbins May 14th 04 03:08 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...
Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

John Gaquin wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gho77F311ksU1@uni-

Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties.

In
fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.



You can make any effort you want to explain away what you put in print.
Nothing changes, for any of you. By your words and by your silence the


truth

becomes known. The mist dissolves and the face becomes clear. You,


Doug,

asskisser, et al -- show more concern for discommoded terrorists than


for a

fellow citizen being hacked to death merely for effect.



Bull****.

The behavior of our soldiers in those prisons has gone a long way
towards putting us down at the level of those we're supposed to be
opposing. My guess is the prison torture story not only has legs, it is
far more of them than we - or congress - have seen so far. And those
people being held in those prisons were not just inconvenienced, as you
claim. They were brutalized.

As for Berg, he surely did not deserve being executed. He also was in a
place he should't have been, and he was warned several times to get the
hell out of Iraq. Or so our government claims.

This entire mess - all of it, every bit of it - is the fault of George
W. Bush and his neoconvict advisers. Bush has made a bad situation

worse.

And what about those oil prices...who is making the money there...his
supporters in big oil? Halliburton? Bush's buddies in the terrorist
state of Saudi Arabia?

We've got a summer of interesting disclosures ahead. Bush will be
paddling furiously to avoid going over the falls.



It is interesting watching all of you libs have oral spasms about what

bush
did and what bush didn't do. The one thing missing from this election

cycle
is what Kerry is going to do if, by a remote chance, he gets elected.

All
of my bush hating friends keep saying "we have got to get Bush out of
office." but, nothing about what Kerry is going to do. Ever heard better

the
devil you know then the one you don't know.




Let's ask Berg's father about that:


It seems that our friend Berg may have been in contact with Al-Qaida back in
2002, as reported on ABC's radio news tonight. It sounds like we haven't
gotten the full story on young Berg yet.




Harry Krause May 14th 04 03:08 AM

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Bert Robbins wrote:

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...

Bert Robbins wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
...


John Gaquin wrote:


"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gho77F311ksU1@uni-

Yet another attempt to take my simple expository writing and turn it
into something I did not says. What I said was that from the point of
view of the victim, the result was the same...death. We have a long
history in THIS country ov violently killing people we don't like, and
that is true from the federal government on down to lynching parties.


In

fact, a few years ago, some asswipe governor of Texas was making jokes
about the last pleading moments of a woman he allowed to be executed.



You can make any effort you want to explain away what you put in print.
Nothing changes, for any of you. By your words and by your silence the

truth


becomes known. The mist dissolves and the face becomes clear. You,

Doug,


asskisser, et al -- show more concern for discommoded terrorists than

for a


fellow citizen being hacked to death merely for effect.



Bull****.

The behavior of our soldiers in those prisons has gone a long way
towards putting us down at the level of those we're supposed to be
opposing. My guess is the prison torture story not only has legs, it is
far more of them than we - or congress - have seen so far. And those
people being held in those prisons were not just inconvenienced, as you
claim. They were brutalized.

As for Berg, he surely did not deserve being executed. He also was in a
place he should't have been, and he was warned several times to get the
hell out of Iraq. Or so our government claims.

This entire mess - all of it, every bit of it - is the fault of George
W. Bush and his neoconvict advisers. Bush has made a bad situation


worse.

And what about those oil prices...who is making the money there...his
supporters in big oil? Halliburton? Bush's buddies in the terrorist
state of Saudi Arabia?

We've got a summer of interesting disclosures ahead. Bush will be
paddling furiously to avoid going over the falls.


It is interesting watching all of you libs have oral spasms about what


bush

did and what bush didn't do. The one thing missing from this election


cycle

is what Kerry is going to do if, by a remote chance, he gets elected.


All

of my bush hating friends keep saying "we have got to get Bush out of
office." but, nothing about what Kerry is going to do. Ever heard better


the

devil you know then the one you don't know.




Let's ask Berg's father about that:



It seems that our friend Berg may have been in contact with Al-Qaida back in
2002, as reported on ABC's radio news tonight. It sounds like we haven't
gotten the full story on young Berg yet.





Indeed. There's apparently considerably more to the Berg story. Also, at
least some members of that family were on a conservative Republican
"hit" list....


John Gaquin May 14th 04 04:25 AM

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"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:2gimtiF3dsueU1@uni-


Because I don't buy into your right-wing rationalizations?


No, because you never pass up an opportunity to denigrate those who serve,
or insult the country in some contrived way.



Right...the whole thing is made up.


I didn't say that. I said there was no documented torture. Buy yourself a
High-School level debating text. You need to upgrade your amateur
rhetorical skills.




No, but anyone with a working brain would have stayed the hell away from
Iraq.


Don't judge everyone by youself. Not everyone cowers when faced with
danger.



The buck stops on Bush's desk. He decided to make war on Iraq.


No, this buck stops on Zarqawi's desk. Or rock, or dirt spot, as the case
may be.



BTW, you seem to be a bit overwhelmed by your own "rightness."


Not even close. I'm right more often than I'm wrong, but I make no claim to
omniscience. What I find overwhelming is how any person can be more
concerned over the comfort of our terrorist enemies than they are over the
barbaric actions of those enemies. That's what has been in evidence on this
NG over the last several days, and it's disturbing.



jps May 14th 04 04:38 AM

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In article ,
says...
Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government, the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.

Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized nations.]
Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad because
you still wind up dead. What the hell is wrong with you people? Like the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.


Frankly John, the whole situation makes me so sick to my stomach that
I'm beyond comment. Did you see that poor father break down on his
front lawn having found out how his precious son had died?

Can you imagine how devastating that is to a parent, sibling,
grandparent, friend? It's devastating to me to imagine how far one has
to travel to be able to do that to another human being.

Is it any less tragic to lose your life to a 500 lb cluster bomb? Do
you like the packaging a little better? Don't have to touch it? I'm in
favor of people understanding the consequences of their actions. It's a
hell of lot easier to drop a bomb than cut someone's head off. Perhaps
you should think about those barbarians in the same light as hunters who
don't mind taking a life with their own hands. No intermediary to do
the hellish task for you.

To make political fodder of such a tragic event is calloused, but you
feel free to follow your nature.

Worthless garbage indeed, but please have a look in the mirror first.

jps

John Gaquin May 14th 04 04:59 AM

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"jps" wrote in message

Is it any less tragic to lose your life to a 500 lb cluster bomb? Do
you like the packaging a little better? Don't have to touch it? I'm in
favor of people understanding the consequences of their actions. It's a
hell of lot easier to drop a bomb than cut someone's head off. Perhaps
you should think about those barbarians in the same light as hunters who
don't mind taking a life with their own hands. No intermediary to do
the hellish task for you.



While I'm sure Mr. Berg would appreciate your sympathy, I doubt he would
agree we should admire the scum for being direct and gutsy. Bull****. You
want to pump tripe like that, get in line behind Krause. I've lived and
worked over there. Eyeball to eyeball. The only thing right in the Moslem
world is their calendar.



jps May 14th 04 06:16 AM

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In article ,
says...

"jps" wrote in message

Is it any less tragic to lose your life to a 500 lb cluster bomb? Do
you like the packaging a little better? Don't have to touch it? I'm in
favor of people understanding the consequences of their actions. It's a
hell of lot easier to drop a bomb than cut someone's head off. Perhaps
you should think about those barbarians in the same light as hunters who
don't mind taking a life with their own hands. No intermediary to do
the hellish task for you.



While I'm sure Mr. Berg would appreciate your sympathy, I doubt he would
agree we should admire the scum for being direct and gutsy. Bull****. You
want to pump tripe like that, get in line behind Krause. I've lived and
worked over there. Eyeball to eyeball. The only thing right in the Moslem
world is their calendar.



Unfortunately, *your* eyes are connected to *your* brain.

basskisser May 14th 04 11:52 AM

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message The only thing right in the Moslem
world is their calendar.


What evidence do YOU have that would suggest that the Moslem religion,
and their beliefs is "wrong".
I suppose that by saying that, you are also saying that Christianity
is right? What do you have to support THAT stance? To the two
questions above, do you have ANYTHING but pure rhetoric, and
ignorance?

John Gaquin May 14th 04 02:29 PM

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"basskisser" wrote in message

....do you have ANYTHING but pure rhetoric, and
ignorance?


That's a real chuckle, coming from you.



basskisser May 17th 04 08:00 PM

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"John Gaquin" wrote in message ...
"basskisser" wrote in message

....do you have ANYTHING but pure rhetoric, and
ignorance?


That's a real chuckle, coming from you.


Then answer the questions, can you? Here they are again:

What evidence do YOU have that would suggest that the Moslem religion,
and their beliefs is "wrong".
I suppose that by saying that, you are also saying that Christianity
is right? What do you have to support THAT stance? To the two
questions above, do you have ANYTHING but pure rhetoric, and
ignorance?

Roy Jose Lorr May 18th 04 01:55 AM

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John Gaquin wrote:

Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government, the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.

Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized nations.]
Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad because
you still wind up dead. What the hell is wrong with you people? Like the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.


What's wrong with these People? Not much. They're just your typical,
common, run in the mill, every day DemoCommies, bent on destroying
the U.S. any way they can.
--

The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.



IBNFSHN May 18th 04 02:39 AM

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The majority people in my kill file comes from this group. Looks like
another one to add.

--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va


"Roy Jose Lorr" wrote in message
...


John Gaquin wrote:

Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government,

the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers

depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.

Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off

of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the

masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to

hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized

nations.]
Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp

at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then

Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad

because
you still wind up dead. What the hell is wrong with you people? Like

the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true

colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.


What's wrong with these People? Not much. They're just your typical,
common, run in the mill, every day DemoCommies, bent on destroying
the U.S. any way they can.
--

The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.





Roy Jose Lorr May 18th 04 04:49 AM

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IBNFSHN wrote:

The majority people in my kill file comes from this group. Looks like
another one to add.


Strike a nerve, chumly?



--
Bill
Chesapeake, Va

"Roy Jose Lorr" wrote in message
...


John Gaquin wrote:

Where did all the posts go??? A week ago we had all the usual suspects
ranting on about how base and despicable the President, the government,

the
Nation, and most of the people are because seven American soldiers

depanted
some Iraqis and photographed them.

Now we've got naught but a few desultory comments about the hacking off

of
Nick Berg's head on camera. For those who needed the reminder, the

masked
marvels on tape have shown our country exactly the type of people we are
fighting. [I can't think of any group in history who felt the need to

hide
their faces and still enjoyed any ethical regard from civilized

nations.]
Where's the fury? All the anti-Bush folk were choking on righteous
indignation at the humiliation of a few terrorists, but sound not a burp

at
the animalistic slaughter of an unconnected civilian US citizen. Then

Harry
comes up with that sophomoric drivel that it really isn't that bad

because
you still wind up dead. What the hell is wrong with you people? Like

the
medieval barbarians on the videotape, you have now shown your true

colors
for all to see. Worthless garbage, every one.


What's wrong with these People? Not much. They're just your typical,
common, run in the mill, every day DemoCommies, bent on destroying
the U.S. any way they can.


--
The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.



basskisser May 18th 04 05:38 PM

Where is everyone?????
 
Roy Jose Lorr wrote in message
What's wrong with these People? Not much. They're just your typical,
common, run in the mill, every day DemoCommies, bent on destroying
the U.S. any way they can.


The right wing keeps getting dumber and dumber....

Roy Jose Lorr May 18th 04 09:03 PM

Where is everyone?????
 


basskisser wrote:

Roy Jose Lorr wrote in message
What's wrong with these People? Not much. They're just your typical,
common, run in the mill, every day DemoCommies, bent on destroying
the U.S. any way they can.


The right wing keeps getting dumber and dumber....


I agree with you but not for the same reason.
--

The last stage of
utopian sentimentalism
is homicidal mania.




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