NOYB wrote:
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NOYB wrote:


Your analogy is extremely flawed as usual.


Well, then do tell, answer the question I asked. How do you know that
if the United States hadn't invaded Iraq, that binLaden would now be in
control of all of the mideast oil?

You snipped my answer, so here it is again:


If bin Laden got us to leave Saudi Arabia following 9/11, we would had
virtually no military presence in the Middle East. His goal of
overthrowing the Saudis and creating a radical Islamic state utilizing the
wealth from the Saudi oil would have come to fruition...and we wouldn't have
had the resources in place to stop it.

Instead, we now have 130,000+ troops setting up bases smack dab in the
middle of the world's second largest oil supply...and right on the doorstep
of the world's largest oil supply. We could move on the fundamentalists in
a heartbeat if bin Laden successfully overthrew the Saudi government.

What you forget about Kuwait is that it took nearly half a year to get the
troops in place to toss Saddam out of there. Imagine Saudi oil supply was
interrupted for 6 months *and* there was no Iraqi oil supply (unlike we have
today). We'd have an instant meltdown of our economy. We couldn't afford
to wait 6 months to get troops in place to toss out the fundamentalists.

bin Laden greatly misjudged Bush's response. Instead of staying on the
defensive and holding our bases in Saudi Arabia (which would have become
more and more difficult due to the tremendous pressure the Saudi royals were
feeling from within), Bush made a brilliant strategic move to preempt bin
Laden's powergrab. He invaded Iraq and put 130,000+ troops in the
region...and did it in the name of liberating a country from tyranny.

The Saudis were able to relieve some of their internal strife by asking the
US to leave...and we were able to keep a foothold in the Middle East.

The reason al Qaeda has focused all their toperations in Iraq is because
they realize that none of bin Laden's plans to grab Saudi oil will ever
happen as long as the US has a strong military presence on the Saudi border.
They must first get us out of Iraq. And the liberals in the US want to help
'em do it!

So that is your criteria for KNOWING that if we hadn't gone to Iraq,
that bin Laden would have succeeded in taking over all of the mideast's
oil supplies??????!!!!!!!! You have GOT to be kidding.........
So, now that I've quit laughing, let me get this straight. You KNOW FOR
A FACT, that because bin Laden said he wanted to control the oil
supply, that if we hadn't invaded Iraq, that he would have
succeeded????? Oh, my god......