On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:54:00 GMT, Shortwave Sportfishing
wrote:

On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 07:38:38 -0400, DSK wrote:

wrote:
NEWS From BoatU.S.
BOATU.S. ONLINE CONSUMER DATABASE DEBUTS
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Thanks, Chuck. I'm a Boats US member and didn't know about this.

BTW if the Boats US magazine is included in the $14 membership, I'd
recommend it highly as a good deal.

Give me a good reason to join BoatUS for $14 per year - seriously, as
a member, what do you gain for the $14?

I get a nickel off each gallon of gas at my marina. Only 300 gallons and I've
made a small fortune!
--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."

"Shortwave Sportfishing" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 16 Jun 2005 11:40:40 -0400, DSK wrote:

... we like the idea of free towing even if we haven't ever used it.



Shortwave Sportfishing wrote:
I've been with Sea//Tow since the CG started with private services
and have never had to use them.

Clearly, we're doing it wrong. We're shelling out hard earned money for
a service that we never use. We both should start boating more
dangerously!

Never quite thought of it that way before.

I have Vessel Assist, is the towing service in the San Francisco area. Only
tow I need was on the Sacramento river, and a fellow boater towed me in.
Broke a U-joint while running about 35 up the river. The coupling banging
around dinged up the inout shaft, making for major headache during repairs.
(Kodiak jet drive). But at $150 / hour for a tow, Is cheap to pay the $80 a
year.

We've considered shifting to a true maritime insurance policy which covers
a lot of boat-related casualties that Boats US (along with any other
mainstream insurance co) won't touch.


Doug Kanter wrote:
What sorts of casualties?


The only one I can think of off the top of my head is disposal... which
can get very expensive, and was a big issue for many people along the
Gulf after last year's hurricanes. Much less of an issue for smaller
boats, or trailerables kept at home.

Fair Skies-
Doug King

Clearly, we're doing it wrong. We're shelling out hard earned money for
a service that we never use. We both should start boating more
dangerously!

Never quite thought of it that way before.


Bill McKee wrote:
I have Vessel Assist, is the towing service in the San Francisco area. Only
tow I need was on the Sacramento river, and a fellow boater towed me in.

In that case, the tow boat company should pay you... or the fellow who
did tow you in...

DSK

"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Clearly, we're doing it wrong. We're shelling out hard earned money for
a service that we never use. We both should start boating more
dangerously!

Never quite thought of it that way before.


Bill McKee wrote:
I have Vessel Assist, is the towing service in the San Francisco area.
Only tow I need was on the Sacramento river, and a fellow boater towed me
in.

In that case, the tow boat company should pay you... or the fellow who did
tow you in...

DSK


Have to be a licensed tower. Actually remembered another tow. Lake, and
ran out of gas about 100 yards from the ramp. Had been waiting about a 1/2
hour for my turn to pull out. The guy towed me into and tryed to tow me
over the dock. I would have had less agravation getting the paddle out.

That's $14 per search.

Later,


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It certainly would be if the only service one ever took advantage of
was a single search.

But on the other hand, would $14 be a ridiculous expenditure for
information related to the purchase of a $10,000 outboard motor, or
$150,000 boat? This may be the same sort of information onw would find
in a Consumer Reports magazine. What does an annual subscription to CU
cost? How many people will use it more than once or twice a year, just
prior to a major purchase?

I wouldn't suggest everybody sign up for this, but knowing that it is
available may be of some specific assistance in some specific cases.

On 16 Jun 2005 15:08:47 -0700, wrote:

That's $14 per search.

Later,


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It certainly would be if the only service one ever took advantage of
was a single search.

But on the other hand, would $14 be a ridiculous expenditure for
information related to the purchase of a $10,000 outboard motor, or
$150,000 boat? This may be the same sort of information onw would find
in a Consumer Reports magazine. What does an annual subscription to CU
cost? How many people will use it more than once or twice a year, just
prior to a major purchase?

I wouldn't suggest everybody sign up for this, but knowing that it is
available may be of some specific assistance in some specific cases.

Agreed...

Later,

Tom

On 15 Jun 2005 21:32:41 -0700, wrote:

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information that is not available absolutely free of charge to all
comers, please move on to the next thread. Thanks.

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NEWS From BoatU.S.
Boat Owners Association of The United States
880 S. Pickett St., Alexandria, VA 22304
BoatU.S. News Room at http://www.BoatUS.com/news/releases.asp

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
Press Contact: Scott Croft, 703-461-2864,
Date: June 15, 2005

BOATU.S. ONLINE CONSUMER DATABASE DEBUTS

One-of-a-Kind Reference Tool Now Available Online

If a boat could talk, what would it tell you?

For nearly 20 years, the BoatU.S. Consumer Protection Bureau has
maintained the only nationwide database of consumer complaints and
safety information reported by boat owners, the U.S. Coast Guard,
manufacturers, marine surveyors and marine technicians. Now, for the
first time, this one-of-a kind database previously only available only
via phone and fax is now accessible online as an exclusive reference
tool available to BoatU.S. members.

"Whether you are buying a boat, trying to determine if a problem on
your current boat is widespread, or just curious, we can help," said
BoatU.S. Consumer Protection Bureau Director Caroline Ajootian.

The database contains thousands of specific reports about boats, marine
engines, boating products, dealers, marinas and related boating
services as well as information about how, or whether, the companies
involved responded to each complaint. Also included are manufacturer's
defect recall notices and safety alerts published by the U.S. Coast
Guard and a selection of service bulletins issued by boat builders.

BoatU.S. members can search the database by boat and engine make,
model, year, hull number or serial number, or by the type of problem
and they can also register a new problem. The database has been used
by the U.S. Coast Guard to issue defect recall notices.

To increase accuracy, BoatU.S. makes every effort to collect boat make
and model information and hull and engine identification numbers.
Having this data is vital because analysis often shows that problems
are confined to specific models or a series of hull numbers.

Ajootian also cautioned, "We do not rate or evaluate boats, engines,
marine products or services, so users should not expect to find an
overall company report card. Also, boaters searching the database will
most likely find reports about larger companies simply because large
companies have more products on the water. Keep in mind that the
presence - or absence - of reports is as much a reflection on market
share, rather than the quality of a boat or lack of it."

The database is located at http://www.BoatUS.com/consumer If you
aren't a BoatU.S. member yet, this Web site also gives boaters the
option of easily signing up at a special online rate of only $14.00.
BoatU.S. - Boat Owners Association of The United States - is the
nation's leading advocate for recreational boaters providing its
595,000 members with a wide array of consumer services.

I'll add this post to my 'keeper' list, just in case. I wish it were $14 a year
though.

--
John H

"All decisions are the result of binary thinking."