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Richard Malcolm May 6th 04 02:06 AM

gas won't go in
 
I have always had a hard time filling my gas tank up. When I would go
fast it would spill out the vent. I even made a thing to catch the gas
as it spills. But today, the second gas stop of the season, (the first
was to top off the tank),when I went to fill her up the gas came out
the tube that I was trying to pump it in. I tried all different angles
and even had them slow the gas down as much as they could. I even went
to a second gas station. I could not get even a cup worth of gas to go
in with out comming out. 2 gas stations, a total of $7 dollars of gas
and I don't think any of it went in the tank. I am thinking that
either the gas hose or the vent hose is clogged, bent, squeezed or
creature has moved in. I even tried to put a coat hanger in to see of
I could find anything.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE WAY TO KEEP MY GAS COST DOWN BUT.........
Does anyone have any ideas thanks

Calif Bill May 6th 04 02:14 AM

gas won't go in
 

"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
I have always had a hard time filling my gas tank up. When I would go
fast it would spill out the vent. I even made a thing to catch the gas
as it spills. But today, the second gas stop of the season, (the first
was to top off the tank),when I went to fill her up the gas came out
the tube that I was trying to pump it in. I tried all different angles
and even had them slow the gas down as much as they could. I even went
to a second gas station. I could not get even a cup worth of gas to go
in with out comming out. 2 gas stations, a total of $7 dollars of gas
and I don't think any of it went in the tank. I am thinking that
either the gas hose or the vent hose is clogged, bent, squeezed or
creature has moved in. I even tried to put a coat hanger in to see of
I could find anything.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE WAY TO KEEP MY GAS COST DOWN BUT.........
Does anyone have any ideas thanks


Blow in the vent and see if it is plugged. May have been a mud dauber wasp
or similar creature taking up residence.



Tony Thomas May 6th 04 02:38 AM

gas won't go in
 
As you have guessed, your vent is stopped up. Remove the vent line and
clean it out good. Would not hurt to remove the fuel line and make sure it
is good and clean also if possible. As for how fast/slow the fuel flows is
all a matter of how the boat was manufactured. The
shorter/straighter/steeper the hose - the better it will flow. Long hoses
that bend, turn and lay flat are a real pain.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com



"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
I have always had a hard time filling my gas tank up. When I would go
fast it would spill out the vent. I even made a thing to catch the gas
as it spills. But today, the second gas stop of the season, (the first
was to top off the tank),when I went to fill her up the gas came out
the tube that I was trying to pump it in. I tried all different angles
and even had them slow the gas down as much as they could. I even went
to a second gas station. I could not get even a cup worth of gas to go
in with out comming out. 2 gas stations, a total of $7 dollars of gas
and I don't think any of it went in the tank. I am thinking that
either the gas hose or the vent hose is clogged, bent, squeezed or
creature has moved in. I even tried to put a coat hanger in to see of
I could find anything.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE WAY TO KEEP MY GAS COST DOWN BUT.........
Does anyone have any ideas thanks




William G. Andersen May 6th 04 06:36 AM

gas won't go in
 
Clean or replace the vent. Mine has a metal mesh inside in that was
thoroughly corroded. I sat it in a dish of CLR overnight and it looked new.
Now that I know what it looks like, I'll replace it next time for about $12.
(Until I took it out, I wasn't sure what it looked like to buy a
replacement.)


"Tony Thomas" wrote in message
news:hGgmc.38849$I%1.2539530@attbi_s51...
As you have guessed, your vent is stopped up. Remove the vent line and
clean it out good. Would not hurt to remove the fuel line and make sure

it
is good and clean also if possible. As for how fast/slow the fuel flows

is
all a matter of how the boat was manufactured. The
shorter/straighter/steeper the hose - the better it will flow. Long hoses
that bend, turn and lay flat are a real pain.

--
Tony
my boats at http://t.thomas.home.mchsi.com



"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
I have always had a hard time filling my gas tank up. When I would go
fast it would spill out the vent. I even made a thing to catch the gas
as it spills. But today, the second gas stop of the season, (the first
was to top off the tank),when I went to fill her up the gas came out
the tube that I was trying to pump it in. I tried all different angles
and even had them slow the gas down as much as they could. I even went
to a second gas station. I could not get even a cup worth of gas to go
in with out comming out. 2 gas stations, a total of $7 dollars of gas
and I don't think any of it went in the tank. I am thinking that
either the gas hose or the vent hose is clogged, bent, squeezed or
creature has moved in. I even tried to put a coat hanger in to see of
I could find anything.
I KNOW THAT THIS IS ONE WAY TO KEEP MY GAS COST DOWN BUT.........
Does anyone have any ideas thanks






Richard Malcolm May 6th 04 12:30 PM

gas won't go in
 
thanks for your responces. On my boat (Four Winns) I can follow the 2
hoses for a while and then they go through a wall to the gas tank. How
does one "clean or repalce" these and what should I avoid doing so I
don't blow my self up. Is this ssomething that a mechanic should do or
can I try some of this.
Let me know your thoughts

Gary Warner May 6th 04 04:31 PM

gas won't go in
 

"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
thanks for your responces. On my boat (Four Winns) I can follow the 2
hoses for a while and then they go through a wall to the gas tank. How
does one "clean or repalce" these and what should I avoid doing so I
don't blow my self up. Is this ssomething that a mechanic should do or
can I try some of this.
Let me know your thoughts


Rich,

I understand that some of the run of both hoses goes through a wall where
you
can't see them. But can you see the other side of the hoses - where they
connect
to the tank? I'm guessing not. But if you can...maybe you can take them
off on
that side and then blow high pressure air through them. Of course, you'ld
want
to take the vent and cap off the other ends first. Not sure where you can
get high
pressure air. Maybe Doug or Chip has some idea.

If your gas tank is low (as it seems from your story) there are lots of
fumes in the
open volume of your tank. This is a potential scenario for sparks to do bad
things.
So think twice about any actions such as running a metal coat hanger way
down the
lines etc.

Gary

PS: Thanks for the stay the other night. Was quite a trip to be back there.




Rod McInnis May 6th 04 10:15 PM

gas won't go in
 

"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
I have always had a hard time filling my gas tank up. When I would go
fast it would spill out the vent.


Well, like you and others have guessed the vent line is probably blocked.
It may not be blocked by anything solid, however. It might be blocked by
liquid.

Check the vent hose and make sure it doesn't have any dips in it. If there
is a dip, and you have recently spilled gas out the vent, then there the dip
will be full of gas. This will block the air from flowing out the vent. If
the vent is higher than the filler spout then you will never be able to lift
the gas in the vent hose high enough to purge it out by simply filling the
tank.

Rod



William G. Andersen May 7th 04 03:51 AM

gas won't go in
 
In my boat (a 19' Bayliner bowrider with 3 liter MerCruiser), the fuel
filler pipe goes almost in a straight line from the fill end to the tank and
the vent hose goes almost in a straight line to the transom. At the transom,
it loops up, then back down to the vent. The vent hose is forced over the
end of the vent and held in place with a stainless steel clamp. I loosened
the clamp and pulled the hose off the vent. The vent is held against the
transom with a large, thin nut. I removed that and pushed the vent out. My
fuel vent is 281360 (the Perko).
If I knew what it looked like before I removed it, I would have bought a new
one and taken it with me to replace right away. Since I had to take it out
to see what to buy for a replacement, I cleaned it by leaving it in a glass
with CLR overnight. (It was so caked up from running in salt water that I
couldn't even blow through it.)
It works great now, but I won't bother to clean it a second time.

"Rod McInnis" wrote in message
...

"Richard Malcolm" wrote in message
om...
I have always had a hard time filling my gas tank up. When I would go
fast it would spill out the vent.


Well, like you and others have guessed the vent line is probably blocked.
It may not be blocked by anything solid, however. It might be blocked by
liquid.

Check the vent hose and make sure it doesn't have any dips in it. If

there
is a dip, and you have recently spilled gas out the vent, then there the

dip
will be full of gas. This will block the air from flowing out the vent.

If
the vent is higher than the filler spout then you will never be able to

lift
the gas in the vent hose high enough to purge it out by simply filling the
tank.

Rod






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