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On 12 Apr 2004 23:02:19 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

I'd probably never buy a new gas boat myself, but millions of people do. If you
recover 50% of a $50k upcharge, you still need to save a lot of fuel to cover
the diff.

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That's true but there are other advantages, the biggest being
increased range.

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On 12 Apr 2004 23:23:31 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:
Anchor pulpit? Visibly flopping up and down?

My own guess is that a docking accident is more likely to blame than hull
layup.

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It's possible but there are no signs of external damage. My guess is
that some sort of internal delamination is taking place.

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It's possible but there are no signs of external damage. My guess is
that some sort of internal delamination is taking place.

The accident that could create the situation you describe would involve a
vertical blow to the pulpit itself. It's a total structural failure, not a
simple case of delam.

Coming down hard on top of a piling?

If it isn't the result of a collision, it's an issue that Sea Ray would cover
under warranty unless the boat is pretty old.

As far as I know, Sea Ray doesn't use cored hulls on boats under 40-feet. Your
friend's 290 is suffering from something other than a cored hull issue.

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That's true but there are other advantages, the biggest being
increased range.

Agreed. As I commented,....."if fuel savings were the only consideration...."
and clearly they are not.

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On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 06:02:27 GMT, WaIIy
wrote:

What year is his boat?

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Not sure. I'll have to sneak a peak at his transom numbers some day.

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Good reading material Chuck. My (USCG-A) Floatilla Commander has a 340,
diesel powered. It IS a fine ride. We did find it a little slugish in high
speed manuvers though. It tended to heel over and plow in a tight, high
speed, turn. IMHO the diesels, while wonderfully effcient and quiet, were
not providing enough horsies for a boat of that weight.
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Capt. Frank

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On 13 Apr 2004 03:01:26 GMT, (Gould 0738) wrote:

PS. Don't know if you take pictures while you're riding around, but I just
got a
new Nikon D70 digital SLR, and I think it's fantastic!

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!


I shoot a couple of hundred photos per month for one project or another. With a
keeper ratio of about 30-40%, and the paginator hoping for at least twice as
many photos as anybody else thinks he'll need (or ultimately uses), it burns a
lot of silver.

Will go digital when:

1. Find a 35mm SLR digital, 5 megapixels (sp?) that will accept my Zeiss
lenses.

2. Costs under a $geezel. If I drop one overboard or off the dock, I'd rather
have an
"unfortunate financial experience" than a mini disaster. $1k= unfortunate day
at the office. $4k= mini disaster.

So many of the digital cameras can take a photo of a housefly atop a flagpole
at the other end of a football field- but cannot capture enough in wide angle
mode to be useful for interior photos of a boat. With my 19mm lens I can stand
at the edge of even very small compartments and get a photo that tells a lot
about the interior....

Of course, that same lens makes the
main salon on a 28 footer look as long as a bowling alley, so there's no
perfect solution.......only a choice between available compromises. Much like
boats in general -or other aspects of life. :-)

The Nikon D70 costs about $1300 with an 18-70mm zoom lens that is getting pretty
good reviews (http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond70/). I absolutely love
mine!

Just can't wait to take pics of the 52" striper I plan to catch this year.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

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The Nikon D70 costs about $1300 with an 18-70mm zoom

Isn't 18mm on a digital about equal to 30-40 mm on a traditional SLR?

I used to use a 28mm lens, but finally dropped down to the 19 because there are
just those times you absolutely need the difference.

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Gould 0738 wrote:

The Nikon D70 costs about $1300 with an 18-70mm zoom


Isn't 18mm on a digital about equal to 30-40 mm on a traditional SLR?

I used to use a 28mm lens, but finally dropped down to the 19 because there are
just those times you absolutely need the difference.


I have a Nikon D100, and finding a good WA lense that actually works as
a good WA lense with it is a problem. In fact, ?I still don't have one
for it. But I can handhold a 300 mm lense, which translates into a much
longer lense with this camera. I could not possibly handhold a nearly
500 mm lense.

With the right lense, it is a very good portrait and candid camera, and
I used it recently to photograph some folks struggling with the
aftermath of being Wal-Marted.

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On Mon, 12 Apr 2004 05:15:39 +0000, Gould 0738 wrote:

In the interest of providing the rec.boats political debate society with a
short, boating related interlude, I am tossing in one of my more recent boat
review items. :-)

Be warned.

1. It's very long. Send out for coffee after the first 1700 words.

2. Some favorable comments about many aspects of the product are included. Those
who become emotionally distraught when reading anything not bitterly hostile to
the marine industry are invited to either skip this thread or flame me privately
at . Won't accept responsibility anybody becoming po'd and
acting badly after ignoring this advance disclosure.

3. Alternate, issue-oriented, informed opinions offered without personal insult
are eagerly solicited in this venue for the purpose of promoting discussion.
Thank you.

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A Boat for All Seasons

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Thanks for the review, Chuck! Here's some hopefully-#3 comments rather than
#2...

First, OK, it's a "favourable" review. But surely SOMETHING was wrong with the
boat? Of course, I'd say 30 gph is in the "yikes!" category: it takes me a month
to burn that much. What about access forward in those "questionable" conditions
(often a problem with express cruisers)? Anything else you DIDN'T like?

In fact, Impressing the Babes is about the only way I could justify burning
30gph to go 25mph. Let's see...Vancouver to Desolation Sound: about 100 miles.
That's 4 hrs each way, but 120 gals!

And waterproof instruments in an open cockpit? what a concept! ;)

Also, loved your description of the brochures: too true! We have a Standing Joke
in Engineering that in order to be an Engineer, you need a white shirt and tie
(no jacket), a hardhat, a clipboard, and you must be pointing at something. This
is how we're portrayed in ALL brochures...

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36