Is the ICW going to close up shop down there?

nyuk nyuk.

Do tell, my OI friend.

db






"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...

I've got Oak Island and Little River news if you are still checking
into this OT cesspool......
--
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In article , "Gene Kearns" wrote:


I've got Oak Island and Little River news if you are still checking
into this OT cesspool......

Spank yourself officer O'Kearnes. You didn't say "boat" in your posting....

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:22:43 -0400, "D0N ßâiley"
wrote:

Is the ICW going to close up shop down there?

nyuk nyuk.


It already is.... and that isn't funny. Areas of Little River and ICW
at Lockwood Folly are already closed to commercial traffic during
times other than high tide or by permission only.

The last time I transited the Lockwood Folly area at low tide the
middle of the ICW was 3.8 feet.

http://www.atlintracoastal.org/Alerts/Lockwood.htm


Holy cow man,

You know, the last few times I've cruised through there, I;ve
noticed the humminbird shows areas of 3' for a spell, I thought
It was me. Ever since, I have been nervous going through
there. Sometimes, I'll run down to fish "the wall"
if nothing else is working. My son caught a 10lb
Black Drum there 5-6 years ago.



Last time, I told you about rumors turning the area near Provision
Company into condos....

Here's the scoop.... (Provision Company is now open, by the way.)

The owners must be back from Mexico then.



I'll start in the middle and work toward both ends.

American Fish and Provision Company look secure.

Glad to hear that.


The area immediately upriver from Provision and adjacent to American
Fish, has been cleaned up and the little cinder block building has
been painted and repaired.

Mr P's Bistro is no more. They have torn away the kitchen, extended
that part of the roof and I'm going to guess that they are moving the
kitchen back toward the street...

Uh...that would cut into the parking lot no?

maybe to give more seating room.
They have sanded the floors and are repairing and/or replacing siding.
I don't know what else. I was told that it will re-open as BoJo's.


Man, that place changes owners/names about every 2-3 years. Did they
keep the "dock"? ---if you can call it that.


Land upriver from there.... I don't know. It was supposedly bought,
too, (all of this by the same person). Changes could take place as
far away as the City Park at Ship's Chandler. Problem is, nobody
seemed to know exactly what *did* sell.

Ok, back the other way.... the Shell Shop has sold and is now a
ladies clothing shop.


We'll see how well that does.


Land and dockage from the old Shell Shop back toward the harbor
appears to have sold as far back as, and including, the Shrimp House,
which is now Fishy-Fishy... still a restaurant. It is impossible to
tell what else in that row did/didn't sell.

So, things have changed, but most of the important things appear to be
staying, for now.

Little River. Day marker #9, which is about the middle of the area
taken by the gambling boats and the restaurants... ever eaten there?
Good stuff!



The wife and I have done the gambling boats there. Its ok, My
stomach doesn't care for it. Something about me not driving
the boat makes me quesey.


Immediately down river from that point, a new marina is being built
Thus, that area should be accessible from the water. Although there
are shops and at least 4 restaurants on the water, there isn't one
single slip (even transient) to be had. This may actually be an
improvement.

Offshore fishing is supposedly really hot..... though it was 30
degrees last night.... b-r-r-r-r-r....


Yea...same here. I've have already begun spring repairs/upgrades
on the Maco in preparation for a mid-May return to OI. I replaced
my steering hydraulic lines, (ouch...$160.00 for new lines). Havn't
fired up the Yamys yet. I'll wait a while on that. They should be
fine, I hope. I trust your new Suzi's are still happy.

Thanks for the update, hope you and family are doing well.

db~dreaming of very large fish in my box.




--
23' Grady White, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/
Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where
Southport,NC is located.
http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures
at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats
at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

In article , "D0N ßâiley" wrote:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:22:43 -0400, "D0N ßâiley"
wrote:

Is the ICW going to close up shop down there?

nyuk nyuk.


It already is.... and that isn't funny. Areas of Little River and ICW
at Lockwood Folly are already closed to commercial traffic during
times other than high tide or by permission only.

The last time I transited the Lockwood Folly area at low tide the
middle of the ICW was 3.8 feet.

http://www.atlintracoastal.org/Alerts/Lockwood.htm


Holy cow man,

You know, the last few times I've cruised through there, I;ve
noticed the humminbird shows areas of 3' for a spell, I thought
It was me. Ever since, I have been nervous going through
there. Sometimes, I'll run down to fish "the wall"
if nothing else is working. My son caught a 10lb
Black Drum there 5-6 years ago.

If you are talking about the Intercoastal Waterway then if it is any
consolation - it's condition isn't much better down here.

Last summer I was just through the locks at Matagorda Texas
on the ICW and even though I was just to the right of the center
of the channel my shallow alarm went off and I ran into a hump
of muck/silt. The sonar showed one-foot.

I sucked up a bunch of silt and my motor stopped peeing. I couldn't
get it cleared so I had to anchor to a convenient mooring post until I was
able to radio somebody at Matagorda Harbor that hooked me up with somebody
to come tow me back.

I got a professional guide to come out and tow me (booked a future
trip with him) and even he hit the damn silt (even after I warned him)
and almost fouled his new Suzuki four-stroke.

Cost me a new impeller too.

The bright side is that while waiting for the tow my friend and son and I
caught several keeper speckled trout (weren't biting everywhere else that
morning) and I learned how to Tripletail (caught a 22 lber and a 23 pounder)
with that guide a month or so later.

The Army Corps of Engineers is doing a really bang-up job... not...




Last time, I told you about rumors turning the area near Provision
Company into condos....

Here's the scoop.... (Provision Company is now open, by the way.)

The owners must be back from Mexico then.



Southport,NC is located.
http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures
at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats
at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:09:07 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore) wrote:

In article , "D0N ßâiley" wrote:

"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
. ..
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004 11:22:43 -0400, "D0N ßâiley"
wrote:

Is the ICW going to close up shop down there?

nyuk nyuk.


It already is.... and that isn't funny. Areas of Little River and ICW
at Lockwood Folly are already closed to commercial traffic during
times other than high tide or by permission only.

The last time I transited the Lockwood Folly area at low tide the
middle of the ICW was 3.8 feet.

http://www.atlintracoastal.org/Alerts/Lockwood.htm


Holy cow man,

You know, the last few times I've cruised through there, I;ve
noticed the humminbird shows areas of 3' for a spell, I thought
It was me. Ever since, I have been nervous going through
there. Sometimes, I'll run down to fish "the wall"
if nothing else is working. My son caught a 10lb
Black Drum there 5-6 years ago.

If you are talking about the Intercoastal Waterway then if it is any
consolation - it's condition isn't much better down here.

Last summer I was just through the locks at Matagorda Texas
on the ICW and even though I was just to the right of the center
of the channel my shallow alarm went off and I ran into a hump
of muck/silt. The sonar showed one-foot.

I sucked up a bunch of silt and my motor stopped peeing. I couldn't
get it cleared so I had to anchor to a convenient mooring post until I was
able to radio somebody at Matagorda Harbor that hooked me up with somebody
to come tow me back.

I got a professional guide to come out and tow me (booked a future
trip with him) and even he hit the damn silt (even after I warned him)
and almost fouled his new Suzuki four-stroke.

Cost me a new impeller too.

The bright side is that while waiting for the tow my friend and son and I
caught several keeper speckled trout (weren't biting everywhere else that
morning) and I learned how to Tripletail (caught a 22 lber and a 23 pounder)
with that guide a month or so later.

The Army Corps of Engineers is doing a really bang-up job... not...

The Corps does nothing without funding.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

In article , John H wrote:


The bright side is that while waiting for the tow my friend and son and I
caught several keeper speckled trout (weren't biting everywhere else that
morning) and I learned how to Tripletail (caught a 22 lber and a 23 pounder)
with that guide a month or so later.

The Army Corps of Engineers is doing a really bang-up job... not...

The Corps does nothing without funding.

John H

True.

Even with funding though, over the years their projects around here have
caused more harm than good as far as erosion and other environmental factors
are concerend.

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

On Tue, 06 Apr 2004 23:09:07 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore)
wrote:

The Army Corps of Engineers is doing a really bang-up job... not...

================================================== ==

They appear to have been co-opted by the Save The Manatee Club and are
now embroiled in restricting dock permits in Florida.

Our tax payer dollars at work.....not...

On Wed, 07 Apr 2004 05:04:23 GMT, (Henry Blackmoore) wrote:

In article , John H wrote:


The bright side is that while waiting for the tow my friend and son and I
caught several keeper speckled trout (weren't biting everywhere else that
morning) and I learned how to Tripletail (caught a 22 lber and a 23 pounder)
with that guide a month or so later.

The Army Corps of Engineers is doing a really bang-up job... not...

The Corps does nothing without funding.

John H

True.

Even with funding though, over the years their projects around here have
caused more harm than good as far as erosion and other environmental factors
are concerend.

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

Which politician promoted the project and got it funded? That's who deserves the
blame.

John H

On the 'Poco Loco' out of Deale, MD
on the beautiful Chesapeake Bay!

"Gene Kearns" wrote in

You might be right... I haven't seen them. But, on the other hand,
they may not be going there any more. Their son-in-law died there, in
a diving accident, about a year ago...

Do you know what happened? I hadn't heard about that.


One of my scuba instructors warned us about the dangers
of open salt water diving and the extra training needed
to do this safely. He also mentioned that there are accidents
every year on our coast but you never hear about them.
I guess he was right.



It was pretty stable until the people that owned sever restaurants
bought in... I think it was just an investment. This area has gone
nuts. Lots on my street sold for about $6500 about 8 years ago....
they are now selling for 10 times that much. Expect much more
speculation and changes.... especially as municipal sewer and a second
bridge approach.




So....

The days of the the under $10,000/lot are completely gone?
I was thinking of picking up something that *wouldn't* perk.
Thinking that the sewer system would be in place by
the time I get ready to build something. Waaayyyyy
down the road.

Thanks for the err.... news.


db

Are you sure we're talking about the same OI?




db~Try and keep things from getting any further *out of control*
till I can get down there and straighten this whole thing out.




btw...

The only reason we know about OI is:

My father was part of the crew that surveyed the Southport/FF
ferry back in the 60's. He tells the story of laying out the channel
in a Boston Whaler using long 2x2's as stakes.

It was one of the first projects he worked on with the NCDOT.
In 1994, he retired as Chief Engineer for the state.


"Gene Kearns" wrote in message
...

I talked to a realtor last night and the inside scoop seems to be that
the *entire* "L" shaped parcel of land at Provision has sold....
including Provision. Some of the companies have been given a year or
more to continue operating, but the area will be razed to make way for
a shops below-condos above structure.

I was also apprised that inland lots are now selling for $80,000. The
lot I told you about that sold for $65,000 was never formally listed
and wasn't on the market longer than one business day.

The municipal sewer issues have been tabled again by the new city
government... I can only guess because things are really getting out
of hand.

TJ's steakhouse will become a "Fresh Market" like grocery. There is a
new restaurant opening at South Harbour Village... and get this....it
will emulate Provision Company. There is an Italian Bistro there now,
probably new to you since your last trip.... and a new restaurant on
the island, SeaGrass.... expect $100.00+ per couple at both places.

The makeup of the population is beginning to change as people take
their profits from the skyrocketing land prices and move inland toward
BSL and Supply. Soon, this may not be the place you remember... :-(
--
23' Grady White, out of Southport, NC.

http://myworkshop.idleplay.net/cavern/
Homepage
http://www.southharbourvillage.com/directions.asp Where
Southport,NC is located.
http://www.southharbourvillage.com/autoupdater.htm Real Time Pictures
at My Marina
http://www.thebayguide.com/rec.boats Rec.boats
at Lee Yeaton's Bayguide