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Petey the Wonder Dog April 4th 04 06:01 PM

Engine size differences
 
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave

bomar April 4th 04 06:11 PM

Engine size differences
 
1. The Volvo designation is misleading, that's the drive.
They are both GM engines. Both are very good.

2. Just buy the 4.3, you'll wish you did when all the freeloaders pile into
yer new boat and want to ski.

"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave




jay April 4th 04 07:00 PM

Engine size differences
 
I have the 3.0 on an 18' (Sea Ray 176), and it's enough power for me and
three other good sized folks and 50 lbs. of gear.... anything more, and you
can feel it work a little harder to stay at a good cruise speed...me and one
other friend with 1/2 tank of gas topped it out at about 43mph. There's
always the folks who will say you can never have enough power, and better
resale value, etc... but I think a good thing to ask yourself is do you
/need/ the extra power?
For me 40mph is fast enough where I am, which is a landlocked riverway.

-j

"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave




Harry Krause April 4th 04 07:03 PM

Engine size differences
 


"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...

I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave



A 19' Chap with a 2 liter V6 (it is a V6, right...not a 4) will be
woefully underpowered.

Jake Holman April 4th 04 07:54 PM

Engine size differences
 
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:03:32 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:



"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...

I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave



A 19' Chap with a 2 liter V6 (it is a V6, right...not a 4) will be
woefully underpowered.


He never said anything about a 2 liter you moron.

Go back to politicl trolling...its obvious you have no true boating
knowledge.

Holman

USN Engineer

Carl Craver April 4th 04 07:58 PM

Engine size differences
 
The 4.3 liter engine would well worth the extra money.
The 3.0 liter may seem like it has enough power for now,
but once you get used to the boat, you will be wanting
more horsepower.

Carl G. Craver

(Chaparral dealer/tech.)

"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave




Harry Krause April 4th 04 08:14 PM

Engine size differences
 
Jake Holman wrote:

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:03:32 -0400, Harry Krause
wrote:


"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...


I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave



A 19' Chap with a 2 liter V6 (it is a V6, right...not a 4) will be
woefully underpowered.



He never said anything about a 2 liter you moron.

Go back to politicl trolling...its obvious you have no true boating
knowledge.

Holman

USN Engineer


Whoops...my bad...a typo. I meant 3 liter. Too small for a 19' Chap.
USN engineer? You drive a train?

Insomniac April 5th 04 05:27 AM

Engine size differences
 
It all depends if you plan to water-ski behind the boat. Do you prefer to
be dragged under the water for the first minute or above? ;)

3.0...Been there done that, don't do it.


"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave




Marshall Banana April 5th 04 09:30 AM

Engine size differences
 
Also Sprach Harry Krause :

Whoops...my bad...a typo. I meant 3 liter. Too small for a 19' Chap.
USN engineer? You drive a train?


Sanitation Engineer.

Dan

--
Football combines the worst elements of America:
Mass violence punctuated by committee meetings.

-- Author Unknown

Lloyd Sumpter April 5th 04 04:46 PM

Engine size differences
 
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:03:32 +0000, Harry Krause wrote:



"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...

I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave



A 19' Chap with a 2 liter V6 (it is a V6, right...not a 4) will be
woefully underpowered.


Harry:
- It's 3 litres, not 2
- It's 4 cyl, not 6
- It's adequate, not "woefully underpowered"

Good thing you got your signature right.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36


Bill Kiene April 5th 04 05:44 PM

Engine size differences
 
Those are both good motors but as most will tell you, if you ever take more
that a few people, you will wish you have a larger motor.

I think the smaller motor is the little 4 cylinder motor that was in the
Chevy II Nova compact car when I was a kid. The larger is a GM V6 which is
another popular motor.

The next step up is probably a GM 350ci V8 which will be even more power.

I think most will recommend you go to the 4.3 because it will be better with
a load.

--
Bill Kiene

Kiene's Fly Shop
Sacramento, CA, USA

Web site: www.kiene.com


"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave




Lloyd Sumpter April 6th 04 02:54 PM

Engine size differences
 
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:01:54 +0000, Petey the Wonder Dog wrote:

I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3. Can someone tell me the difference
in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but cost
is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.



I had a rather heavy 18-ft Campion hardtop with a 2.5 (120hp) for several years.
Georgia Strait tends to be bumpy, even on calm days due to tide, so my speed was
usually dictated more by waves than by power. I never wished for more.

HOWEVER, I don't water-ski. This seems to be the turning point. If you (or your
friends) want to water-ski, get the 4.3. If you just want to fish, cruise, etc.,
the 3 will be fine. (If you want to Impress the Babes, get the 5.7 and open the
exhausts!)

The 2.5 (I'm not sure about the 3.0) was the "iron duke", a high-torque, low-rpm
4-cyl they used to put in trucks like the S10. It was replaced by the even more
Venerable 4.3 V6, which is basically the GM small-block V8 with two cyl lopped
off. The one in our Safari van has 220,000 km on it and it's barely broken in.

Lloyd Sumpter
(previously) "Valkyrie" Campion 18: http://www.user.dccnet.com/lsumpter/Campion

Wayne.B April 6th 04 04:00 PM

Engine size differences
 
On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 17:01:54 GMT, Petey the Wonder Dog
wrote:
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

==========================================

$2K may seem like a lot now but it will cost a LOT more later on when
you decide you really need more power for one reason or another. The
larger engine will also run more lightly loaded in most conditions and
should last longer as a result.

Resale value is another consideration. The boat will always be worth
more with the larger engine so in the end it will cost you less than
$2K.


Bill April 6th 04 11:26 PM

Engine size differences
 

"Harry Krause" wrote in message
news:c3dhc2g=.d81e485936d0d0e3aa69804eb2a98d53@108 1180925.nulluser.com...
Lloyd Sumpter wrote:

On Sun, 04 Apr 2004 14:03:32 +0000, Harry Krause wrote:



"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...

I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger

engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences

between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.
Dave


A 19' Chap with a 2 liter V6 (it is a V6, right...not a 4) will be
woefully underpowered.


Harry:
- It's 3 litres, not 2
- It's 4 cyl, not 6
- It's adequate, not "woefully underpowered"

Good thing you got your signature right.

Lloyd Sumpter
"Far Cove" Catalina 36




Yeah, yeah, yeah, so I made a typo. A 3.0 liter four cylinder engine in
a 19' Chap sportboat equals a woefully underpowered boat. Perhaps not by
your standards, but, then, by your standards, going a knot faster than
the current is acceptable.

A 4.3 liter engine is necessary on that boat to make it perform as it
should...quick, agile, able to carry some passengers and pull water

skiers.

Just because your Vinyl Valerie or whatever you called your "sport boat"
was grossly underpowered doesn/t mean everyone else's boat should be, too.

Ciao.


P.S. One of the surplus stores was having a sale on end lots of duct
tape and bailing wire...I immediately thought of you and your boats.


Oh Harry what's Wong can't take the heat. Yea!! You like to Dish it out but
can't it. Oh where is Asskisser I didn't see him reply to any of the
comments. Just as I thought you can't even give the Simplest Technical
Advice or Helpful Hints. Just go and reply to the OT topics.



Bill



Bill April 6th 04 11:35 PM

Engine size differences
 

"Petey the Wonder Dog" wrote in message
...
I'm about to order a Chapparal 190 I/O.

I can get either the 3.0 Volvo or the 4.3.
Can someone tell me the difference in speed between the two.

I understand that most recommendations will be to the larger engine, but
cost is a consideration at $2000 higher for the 4.3.

Before I make a decision, can I get some factual differences between the
two?

Thanks a lot in advance.


Like others said I would go with the 4.3 you will not regret it. I have a
19' Larson with a 3.0 liter in it and wish many times I had more horse
power. Either you pay up front or Pay to have a new 4.3 installed later or
just sit and wish you did. Like I said and others you will not regret it.



Bill










Jay April 7th 04 02:27 AM

Engine size differences
 
My first boat three years ago was a 1987 Bayliner Capri 18' w/a 2.0
(sorry THREE) liter motor. I now have a 1997 18.5 Chaparral w/a 4.3.

Bayliner=Good starter boat. OK power for two adults/two kids/cooler.
BUT once you have a boat, you get friends. REALLY underpowered
w/seven people and stuff. The Chap can get out of its way loaded.

Go for the bigger engine it is really worth it. The increased fuel
consumption is negligible at cruise.

-jjj


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